What's new

2 white man killed a black man in Georgia, U.S. Racial tensions Rise

They've both been arrested and charged with murder....So much for the narrative that the poor chaps on the truck were attacked by an angry, big black man.


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-52585505

A father and son have been arrested and charged in the US state of Georgia for the fatal shooting of Ahmaud Arbery, an unarmed black man.

Gregory McMichael, aged 64, and Travis McMichael, aged 34, were detained on Thursday by the state bureau of investigation.

Both were charged with murder and aggravated assault, investigators said in a statement.

Mr Arbery, 25, was jogging in February when he was confronted by the pair.

For more than two months, police did not charge the McMichaels, who are white, until the shooting gained widespread attention in the national media and provoked outrage.

The Georgia Bureau of Investigation announced late on Thursday that both men had been taken into custody. The bureau said the father and son followed Mr Arbery and confronted him with two firearms, and the younger McMichael shot and killed him.

Mr Arbery was out running in the coastal city of Brunswick early in the afternoon of 23 February. Gregory McMichael told police he saw Mr Arbery and believed he resembled the suspect in a series of local break-ins.

Mr McMichael and his son armed themselves with a pistol and a shotgun and pursued Mr Arbery in a pick-up truck. Gregory McMichael told police he and his son said "stop, stop, we want to talk to you" and claims Mr Arbery then attacked his son.

Video footage of the incident appears to show Travis McMichael firing a shotgun at point blank range at Mr Arbery and the victim falling to the street, in the Satilla Shores neighbourhood.

Mr Arbery's mother, Wanda Cooper Jones, said police told her after the shooting that her son had been involved in a burglary before the incident, but the family say they do not believe the keen jogger had committed a crime. He was unarmed and carrying nothing.

A number of calls were made to police around the time of the confrontation, according to a CBS News report. In one 911 call, a neighbour said a black man was seen at a home under construction in the area. When asked what the man was doing now, the caller said "running down the street".

Mobile phone video of the shooting incident has now emerged. The footage, apparently filmed by another man in the neighbourhood, appears to show the McMichaels waiting for Mr Arbery as he jogs down the road in broad daylight.

The 36-second clip was shot from a vehicle following the pick-up truck said to be involved in the incident.

Mr Arbery is seen jogging and then approaching the stationary pick-up from behind. He then tries to bypass the truck and is seen struggling with a man carrying a shotgun - believed to be Travis McMichael. There is muffled shouting and shotgun shots.

A second man is standing in the bed of the pick-up - understood to be Gregory McMichael. The second man is then shown with a pistol standing alongside the other armed man with Mr Arbery no longer in view.

'Lynched before our very eyes'
The victim's father told PBS Newshour on Thursday that his son exercised in the area daily and stayed across the street at his mother's house. "I don't know why they racially profile him and done him like that," said Marcus Arbery, "because all he did is work out and ran and just took care of his body, because he had dreams now."

Asked about the suggestion that his son could have been implicated in a burglary, Mr Arbery said that was "just a lie and a cover-up".

"The video speaking everything for itself," he said. "Check that lynch mob out."

The family lawyer, Benjamin Crump, said the footage showed a "horrific execution". The attorney also claimed Gregory McMichael was not initially charged because he had worked as a police officer and a detective for the local district attorney for more than 30 years.

The shooting has led to a wave of outrage from national figures, including presidential candidate Joe Biden and basketball star LeBron James. Mr Biden said Mr Arbery had been "shot down in cold blood" and "essentially lynched before our very eyes".

"This family and the country deserves justice and they deserve it now. They deserve a transparent investigation of this brutal murder. But our nation deserves it as well. We need to reckon with this, this goes on. These vicious acts call to mind the darkest chapters of our history," Mr Biden said.


_112201378_mcmichaels.jpg


Look's like these two would happily gun down any Muslims as well.
 
.
They've both been arrested and charged with murder....So much for the narrative that the poor chaps on the truck were attacked by an angry, big black man.


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-52585505

A father and son have been arrested and charged in the US state of Georgia for the fatal shooting of Ahmaud Arbery, an unarmed black man.

Gregory McMichael, aged 64, and Travis McMichael, aged 34, were detained on Thursday by the state bureau of investigation.

Both were charged with murder and aggravated assault, investigators said in a statement.

Mr Arbery, 25, was jogging in February when he was confronted by the pair.

For more than two months, police did not charge the McMichaels, who are white, until the shooting gained widespread attention in the national media and provoked outrage.

The Georgia Bureau of Investigation announced late on Thursday that both men had been taken into custody. The bureau said the father and son followed Mr Arbery and confronted him with two firearms, and the younger McMichael shot and killed him.

Mr Arbery was out running in the coastal city of Brunswick early in the afternoon of 23 February. Gregory McMichael told police he saw Mr Arbery and believed he resembled the suspect in a series of local break-ins.

Mr McMichael and his son armed themselves with a pistol and a shotgun and pursued Mr Arbery in a pick-up truck. Gregory McMichael told police he and his son said "stop, stop, we want to talk to you" and claims Mr Arbery then attacked his son.

Video footage of the incident appears to show Travis McMichael firing a shotgun at point blank range at Mr Arbery and the victim falling to the street, in the Satilla Shores neighbourhood.

Mr Arbery's mother, Wanda Cooper Jones, said police told her after the shooting that her son had been involved in a burglary before the incident, but the family say they do not believe the keen jogger had committed a crime. He was unarmed and carrying nothing.

A number of calls were made to police around the time of the confrontation, according to a CBS News report. In one 911 call, a neighbour said a black man was seen at a home under construction in the area. When asked what the man was doing now, the caller said "running down the street".

Mobile phone video of the shooting incident has now emerged. The footage, apparently filmed by another man in the neighbourhood, appears to show the McMichaels waiting for Mr Arbery as he jogs down the road in broad daylight.

The 36-second clip was shot from a vehicle following the pick-up truck said to be involved in the incident.

Mr Arbery is seen jogging and then approaching the stationary pick-up from behind. He then tries to bypass the truck and is seen struggling with a man carrying a shotgun - believed to be Travis McMichael. There is muffled shouting and shotgun shots.

A second man is standing in the bed of the pick-up - understood to be Gregory McMichael. The second man is then shown with a pistol standing alongside the other armed man with Mr Arbery no longer in view.

'Lynched before our very eyes'
The victim's father told PBS Newshour on Thursday that his son exercised in the area daily and stayed across the street at his mother's house. "I don't know why they racially profile him and done him like that," said Marcus Arbery, "because all he did is work out and ran and just took care of his body, because he had dreams now."

Asked about the suggestion that his son could have been implicated in a burglary, Mr Arbery said that was "just a lie and a cover-up".

"The video speaking everything for itself," he said. "Check that lynch mob out."

The family lawyer, Benjamin Crump, said the footage showed a "horrific execution". The attorney also claimed Gregory McMichael was not initially charged because he had worked as a police officer and a detective for the local district attorney for more than 30 years.

The shooting has led to a wave of outrage from national figures, including presidential candidate Joe Biden and basketball star LeBron James. Mr Biden said Mr Arbery had been "shot down in cold blood" and "essentially lynched before our very eyes".

"This family and the country deserves justice and they deserve it now. They deserve a transparent investigation of this brutal murder. But our nation deserves it as well. We need to reckon with this, this goes on. These vicious acts call to mind the darkest chapters of our history," Mr Biden said.


_112201378_mcmichaels.jpg


Look's like these two would happily gun down any Muslims as well.

They will they are typical rednecks. Too bad Muslims in America support gun control when guns would be saving their lives against these rednecks.

Most Muslims in the USA are all liberal pussies. Self defence is mandated in the religion. But nah we prefer to sit down and be like pussies. Guns dont mean to go and kill people its a tool to defend yourself. Mix martial arts or whatever it is wont do you much good when a guy has a gun pointed at you.
 
.
They will they are typical rednecks. Too bad Muslims in America support gun control when guns would be saving their lives against these rednecks.

Most Muslims in the USA are all liberal pussies. Self defence is mandated in the religion. But nah we prefer to sit down and be like pussies. Guns dont mean to go and kill people its a tool to defend yourself. Mix martial arts or whatever it is wont do you much good when a guy has a gun pointed at you.

Aye, crazy to see so many Muslims for gun control, talking about shooting (pun intended) yourselves in the foot.
 
. .
Aye, crazy to see so many Muslims for gun control, talking about shooting (pun intended) yourselves in the foot.

Gun control is a form of self defense. You are trying to get the guns out of everyone's hands.

For all of its liberal gun laws in the US, for the purported reason of self defense, how many incidents of people firing in self defense can you cite? Compare those with the incidents of shootings.
 
.
Aye, crazy to see so many Muslims for gun control, talking about shooting (pun intended) yourselves in the foot.

Shit happens then cry like the victim. Crying like the victim does not achieve anything.

Can you imagine if Malcom X cried or Muhammed Ali Jinnah?

Can you imagine Muhammed Ali Jinnah crying to the world that he is a victim??

Nah he did not do this crap because this mentality achieves nothing for him if Pakistan was going to be independant it will need to come with sacrifice and comittment. Muslims nowadays believe a victimhood mentality means people will leave us alone.

What has happen to Muslims to be honest. Im not advocating for violence but seld defence does not mean to go kill innocent people its all about defending yourself, family, friends, community from harm doesnt matter if its muslim or non muslim. Muslims also defend non muslims especially in their community.
 
.
Gun control is a form of self defense. You are trying to get the guns out of everyone's hands.

For all of its liberal gun laws in the US, for the purported reason of self defense, how many incidents of people firing in self defense can you cite? Compare those with the incidents of shootings.

Loads, all quite recent;

https://abc7ny.com/bay-point-grocer...video-california-clerk-shoots-robber/5779547/

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...ng-robber-broke-sleeping-inside-security.html

https://www.yourcentralvalley.com/n...shoots-robbery-suspect-in-lindsay-police-say/

https://www.wctv.tv/content/news/St...llahassee-Police-investigating-567606011.html

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...r-old-burglar-possible-stand-ground-case.html

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-49731469


You may outlaw the guns, but the outlaws will always have guns.

They don't follow laws.

Shit happens then cry like the victim. Crying like the victim does not achieve anything.

Can you imagine if Malcom X cried or Muhammed Ali Jinnah?

Can you imagine Muhammed Ali Jinnah crying to the world that he is a victim??

Nah he did not do this crap because this mentality achieves nothing for him if Pakistan was going to be independant it will need to come with sacrifice and comittment. Muslims nowadays believe a victimhood mentality means people will leave us alone.

What has happen to Muslims to be honest. Im not advocating for violence but seld defence does not mean to go kill innocent people its all about defending yourself, family, friends, community from harm doesnt matter if its muslim or non muslim. Muslims also defend non muslims especially in their community.

Ameen, many Muslims these days look for a 'saviour' or just sit by and become victims and then relate their stories.
People frown on me for my edge weapon collection lol.
 
Last edited:
.
.
Yes but compare those with the shootings, the statistics are very sobering. Liberal gun laws have not prevented shootings or crime.

Referring to the above again, people's lives have been saved. States differ with their laws, many people don't like firearms, policing isn't great in some states etc. These are all factors you need to take account of. It's not simply about liberal gun laws v shootings.
 
.
A big black guy attacks you. Only solution. Fill him with lead. One less problem in the world.

perfect example of a Uncle Tom here

personally I love Black people and Muslim black brothers are very amazing people

lol

These exist. I know a property management guy who has policy -

  • never rent to blacks
  • prefer Chinese students over all others
  • never rent a property to male Vietnamese short of bullet proof credentials
  • never rent to white slappers


I take this mate of your runs a few flats here and there and considers himself a businessman

I own properties in 3 continents and I rent to black people all the time, they are the best tenants

I have never ever had a issue with rent payments from black tenants

I once had a mix of Nigerian and Uganda both muslims and christians in same flat zero problem
 
.
They will they are typical rednecks. Too bad Muslims in America support gun control when guns would be saving their lives against these rednecks.

Most Muslims in the USA are all liberal pussies. Self defence is mandated in the religion. But nah we prefer to sit down and be like pussies. Guns dont mean to go and kill people its a tool to defend yourself. Mix martial arts or whatever it is wont do you much good when a guy has a gun pointed at you.

The problem is that sometimes owning guns can be used against you, if you are the wrong identity.

Plenty of police brutality has been justified due to the fact that the minority had a gun in his possession, it doesn't even matter if he took it out.

I know plenty of Arabs and Black Muslims who have been booked for heavier crimes due to gun ownership, when it was a simple minor crime or minor drug possession.

I even remember a group of young Arabs in the Midwest who got in trouble for visiting a gun range and then going hunting in the woods. They were painted by the media as terrorists, and had to go to trial. I don'tremember what happened to them. @PakFactor Maybe you remember that incident.

The fact that most Muslims in America keep close contact with their ancestral homelands is also problematic for authorities. I have been stopped a few times to be asked what I was doing in Pakistan, to which I replied visiting my grandparent's farm, nothing more.

They used to ask all sorts of nonsense questions. Are you a terrorist? Have you been to any area where terrorists function? What do you think about America?

Do you consider yourself religious? As if my beard and quran in my pocket is not a give-away, lol.

Alhamdulilah they do not do that anymore, but full body scans are unnerving. We always get extra pat downs and bags checked, ofcourse by random.
 
. .
The problem is that sometimes owning guns can be used against you, if you are the wrong identity.

Plenty of police brutality has been justified due to the fact that the minority had a gun in his possession, it doesn't even matter if he took it out.

I know plenty of Arabs and Black Muslims who have been booked for heavier crimes due to gun ownership, when it was a simple minor crime or minor drug possession.

I even remember a group of young Arabs in the Midwest who got in trouble for visiting a gun range and then going hunting in the woods. They were painted by the media as terrorists, and had to go to trial. I don'tremember what happened to them. @PakFactor Maybe you remember that incident.

The fact that most Muslims in America keep close contact with their ancestral homelands is also problematic for authorities. I have been stopped a few times to be asked what I was doing in Pakistan, to which I replied visiting my grandparent's farm, nothing more.

They used to ask all sorts of nonsense questions. Are you a terrorist? Have you been to any area where terrorists function? What do you think about America?

Do you consider yourself religious? As if my beard and quran in my pocket is not a give-away, lol.

Alhamdulilah they do not do that anymore, but full body scans are unnerving. We always get extra pat downs and bags checked, ofcourse by random.

Owning a gun is a white priviledge
 
.
The problem is that sometimes owning guns can be used against you, if you are the wrong identity.

Plenty of police brutality has been justified due to the fact that the minority had a gun in his possession, it doesn't even matter if he took it out.

I know plenty of Arabs and Black Muslims who have been booked for heavier crimes due to gun ownership, when it was a simple minor crime or minor drug possession.

I even remember a group of young Arabs in the Midwest who got in trouble for visiting a gun range and then going hunting in the woods. They were painted by the media as terrorists, and had to go to trial. I don'tremember what happened to them. @PakFactor Maybe you remember that incident.

The fact that most Muslims in America keep close contact with their ancestral homelands is also problematic for authorities. I have been stopped a few times to be asked what I was doing in Pakistan, to which I replied visiting my grandparent's farm, nothing more.

They used to ask all sorts of nonsense questions. Are you a terrorist? Have you been to any area where terrorists function? What do you think about America?

Do you consider yourself religious? As if my beard and quran in my pocket is not a give-away, lol.

Alhamdulilah they do not do that anymore, but full body scans are unnerving. We always get extra pat downs and bags checked, ofcourse by random.

I remember that I believe they were let go, but the case went on for like 2 years and tarnished the young boys name sadly. :(
 
.
.

Pakistan Affairs Latest Posts

Country Latest Posts

Back
Top Bottom