2 Spanish Eurofighter down 8 F-15C at recent exercise

[1000VA]

i see eurofighter with one engine and 1 euro fighter with 2 engines. whats the difference between them

Buddy... single engined fighter in that video is Saab 39 Gripen

 

[su-47]

AWESOME VIDEO.. OMG. I wish we could see them in PAF COLOURS. but Ohh well. Not every dream comes true. Btw, i see eurofighter with one engine and 1 euro fighter with 2 engines. whats the difference between them

EF with 1 engine? Thats not possible? EF has 2 engines. The one engined plane might be a Gripen. They do look a little simiar due to delat wing and canards design.

 

[sancho]

but given the 72 planes I think they will be getting some T3s at later stages

Could be, or they simply upgrade them in some years.

 

[SBD-3]

Could be, or they simply upgrade them in some years.

obviously they would love to do this.....cus i think typhoons will replace tornados I think...which is a multirole....so Typhoons will have to have good A2G configuration which currently laks in at least T1.....dont know about T-2

 

[sancho]

obviously they would love to do this.....cus i think typhoons will replace tornados I think...which is a multirole....so Typhoons will have to have good A2G configuration which currently laks in at least T1.....dont know about T-2

If I'm not wrong the EF will replace F5 in the Saudi AF and not the Tornados. T2 is not much better and what T3 will really have is very unclear yet, I guess the EF members try to sell the Saudis more EFs, if they lose in India too and let them fund the integration of more A2G weapons also.

 

[SBD-3]

If I'm not wrong the EF will replace F5 in the Saudi AF and not the Tornados. T2 is not much better and what T3 will really have is very unclear yet, I guess the EF members try to sell the Saudis more EFs, if they lose in India too and let them fund the integration of more A2G weapons also.

as per what i was able to get is that F-5s will be completely withdrawn from service..but only 1 squadron will be replaced by Typhoons. Some of the tornados will also be withdrawn from service......here

Panavia Tornado IDS United Kingdom Italy Germany Ground Attack 87 some IDS and ADV to be upgraded at a cost of $4.66 billion, perhaps 80 aircraft in total

Panavia Tornado ADV United Kingdom Italy Germany Fighter 24 To be withdrawn from service & shipped to the UK in a buy back package part of the Al Salam deal.

Northrop F-5 Freedom Fighter United States Fighter F5A
F-5B 110 Withdrawn from service aside from in the trainer role, some squadrons such as #10 based in Taif will be replaced with Eurofighter Typhoons.

 

[Super Falcon]

wellll saudi arabian airforce is very well equipeeed i think

 

[sancho]

as per what i was able to get is that F-5s will be completely withdrawn from service..but only 1 squadron will be replaced by Typhoons. Some of the tornados will also be withdrawn from service......here

Panavia Tornado IDS United Kingdom Italy Germany Ground Attack 87 some IDS and ADV to be upgraded at a cost of $4.66 billion, perhaps 80 aircraft in total

Panavia Tornado ADV United Kingdom Italy Germany Fighter 24 To be withdrawn from service & shipped to the UK in a buy back package part of the Al Salam deal.

Northrop F-5 Freedom Fighter United States Fighter F5A
F-5B 110 Withdrawn from service aside from in the trainer role, some squadrons such as #10 based in Taif will be replaced with Eurofighter Typhoons.

By the fact that Saudi Arabia will never need real ground attack capabilities, I guess EF could be enough for them. Like I said, I expect them to buy even more, some reports already say there will be an order to increase the number to 150.

 

[SBD-3]

By the fact that Saudi Arabia will never need real ground attack capabilities, I guess EF could be enough for them. Like I said, I expect them to buy even more, some reports already say there will be an order to increase the number to 150.

i read about a possible 24 over the current order of a separate 24 rafales from France.....but they would not like to cut down the number of fighters

 

[sancho]

i read about a possible 24 over the current order of a separate 24 rafales from France.....but they would not like to cut down the number of fighters

Rafales? Saudi is not interested in Rafale, it lost against the EF. UAE (around 60), Kuwait (24) and possibly Qatar (?) are the countries in the Gulf region that seems to go for Rafale and hopefully India too.

 

[Dark Angel]

well EF is better than rafale in A2G role and given day

 

[SBD-3]

well EF is better than rafale in A2G role and given day

no Rafale exceeds Typhoon in A2G while Typhoon does it in A2A

 

[SBD-3]

Performance

In 2004, United States Air Force Chief of Staff General John P. Jumper said after flying the Eurofighter:
“ I have flown all the air force jets. None was as good as the Eurofighter.[107][108] ”

The Typhoon's combat performance, compared to the new F-22 Raptor and the upcoming F-35 Lightning II[109] fighters and the French Dassault Rafale, has been the subject of much discussion. In March 2005, Jumper, then the only person to have flown both the Eurofighter Typhoon and the Raptor, talked to Air Force Print News about these two aircraft. He said,
“ The Eurofighter is both agile and sophisticated, but is still difficult to compare to the F/A-22 Raptor. They are different kinds of airplanes to start with; it's like asking us to compare a NASCAR car with a Formula One car. They are both exciting in different ways, but they are designed for different levels of performance.[110] ”

Further, "The Eurofighter is certainly, as far as smoothness of controls and the ability to pull (and sustain high g forces), very impressive," he said. "That is what it was designed to do, especially the version I flew, with the avionics, the color moving map displays, etc. — all absolutely top notch. The maneuverability of the airplane in close-in combat was also very impressive."[110][111]

In July 2007, the Indian Air Force fielded the SU 30 MKI during the Indra-Dhanush exercise with Royal Air Force's Eurofighter Typhoon. This was the first time that the two jets had taken part in such a exercise.[112][113] The IAF did not allow their pilots to use the radar of the MKIs during the exercise so as to protect the highly-classified N011M Bars.[114] During the exercise, the RAF pilots candidly admitted that the Su-30MKI displayed maneuvering superior to that of the Typhoon.[115]

The Typhoon is capable of supersonic cruise without using afterburners. This is referred to as "supercruise". According to the official German Luftwaffe and Austrian Eurofighter website, the maximum speed possible without reheat is between Mach 1.2 and Mach 1.5.[116][117][118] Air Forces Monthly gives a maximum supercruise speed of Mach 1.1 for the RAF FGR4 multirole version.[119] However the Eurofighter can only supercruise in a clean configuration without external missiles and fuel tanks.[120]

The Eurofighter consortium claims their fighter has a larger sustained subsonic turn rate, sustained supersonic turn rate, and faster acceleration at Mach 0.9 at 20,000 feet (6,100 m) than the F-14 Tomcat, F-15 Eagle, F-16 Fighting Falcon, F/A-18 Hornet, Dassault Mirage 2000, Dassault Rafale, the Sukhoi Su-27, and the Mikoyan MiG-29.[121][122][123]

In 2005, a trainer Eurofighter T1 was reported to have had a chance encounter the previous year with two U.S. Air Force F-15Es over the Lake District in the north of England. The encounter became a mock dogfight with the Eurofighter allegedly emerging victorious.[124][125][verification needed]

In the 2005 Singapore evaluation, the Typhoon won all three combat tests, including one in which a single Typhoon defeated three RSAF F-16s, and reliably completed all planned flight tests.[126][127][verification needed] Singapore still went on to buy the F-15 due to uncertainty over Typhoon tranche 2 delivery dates.

During the exercise "Typhoon Meet" held in 2008, Eurofighters flew against F/A-18 Hornets, Mirage F1s, Harriers and F-16s in a mock combat exercise. It is claimed that the Eurofighters won all engagements (even outnumbered 8 vs 27) without suffering losses.[128][129]

The aviation magazine "Flug Revue" reports that in 2008 German Typhoon were pitted against French Rafales. The results are said to be "extremely gratifying", the main difference being the "much greater thrust of the EJ200 engine".[130]

In July 2009, Former Chief of Air Staff for the Royal Air Force Air Chief Marshal Sir Glenn Torpy said that "The Eurofighter Typhoon is an excellent aircraft. It will be the backbone of the Royal Air Force along with the JSF".[131]

 

[sancho]

well EF is better than rafale in A2G role and given day

The pic above shows only weapons in testing, while Rafale has already most of its weapons integrated and ready. It also can carry bombs on multi pylons, has more range and 2t more payload.
The difference in A2A between EF and Rafale is much closer, than the difference in A2G at the moment!

 

[Dark Angel]

The pic above shows only weapons in testing, while Rafale has already most of its weapons integrated and ready. It also can carry bombs on multi pylons, has more range and 2t more payload.The difference in A2A between EF and Rafale is much closer, than the difference in A2G at the moment!

Well according to me Rafale(C/D) can carry only 1t more payload than EF, apart from that Rafale dosent have supercruise and has a Service ceiling 10,000ft lesser than EF