10 charts that capture murders, kidnappings and theft in Karachi

[Gazi]

Janab, MQM saray maslay ki jarr nahi hai..but it is a major root cause.

PPP and their gangs are all but brutally destroyed by state (Rangers+Intelligence)

We are all happy about it. Nobody said anything.

Lakin jab MQM ka koi criminal pakar lo to ap janab jaisay logon ko takleef kyun ho jati hai?

Altaf Hussein isn't worth being a leader. Usko kyun nahi hatatay ap? Why criticize us when we bash MQM under Altaf which invites India and NATO to come to take control of largest city of our state!!!

And the biggest insult he and other MQMers do to themselves and our beloved nation is calling people "Muhajirs"...There are NO muhajirs. Everybody is Pakistani..born, raised, and lived here.

Please, stop this degrading term.

Agar MQM Major Rote Cause hai tu iskay Daur mai Bina Rangers ya Fauj k Aman agaya kaisay agaya tha????

PPP can create so many more Gangs because all Administrative Authorities are rest with them BTW our LEA ever QUESTIONED those who were Involved in Patronizing and strengthening those gangs Lyari on the first place???

MQM has criminals no Doubt that need to be rooted Out and they even had these Elements back then as well but despite of that there was Peace in Karachi without having Boots on the street that is the main concern I am Asking how could(or how Dare) they make peace in the City without use of LEAs in Karachi????

Altaf Hussain ki 4 din ki Zindagi hai bas thorha Sabar karlogay tu kisi ka Bura nahi huga jab 30 Saal sab nay Bardasht kia hai tu 2-3 saal aur sahi woh apni Maut app Marjai magar app loog CHahtay hu k Usko Hataya jai new MQM Banai jai aur Karachi ki Roads pay dobara MQM Haqiqi vs MQM Altaf jaisa Fasad shuroo hujai kia yeh Maslay ka hal hai apki nazar mai????

I am just trying to discuss things on the basis of Facts and Figure here.

 

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Yeh saray Politicians ka haal hai bhai bas farq yeh hai k kuch Boot Polishiyay ban jatay hain apnay app ko Bachanay k liye kuch apnay Moqaf pay Qaim Rehtay hain.

konsa muaqqqaf pakistan tornay ka muaqqaf ya target killers ko bachany ka muaqqaf ya bhattta khoori na rukwany ka muaqqaf???

or mainy ap say MQM ka jawab manga tha naakay imran khan mushahidullah or zardari ka

And the biggest insult he and other MQMers do to themselves and our beloved nation is calling people "Muhajirs"...There are NO muhajirs. Everybody is Pakistani..born, raised, and lived here.

Yeah well said sir ....
i also live in karachi speaks urdu but am not muhajir am PAKISTANI

 

[Patriots]

Pahan mangna help mangna ni hota thanks for clearing that to me.... Indo- Pak division of Land ko Blunder khna bhi thk hai point noted

Help kab mangi ye batao ... Iss ka matlab ye nikalta hai or wo nikalta hai chorh do ............

Mager Baki politician India se Help ni mangte NATO ko ni khte Intervene kre 55 countries ko Help ka letter ni likhte hain Bhatta ni lete Dual National ni hain

rangers ne Bhatta khtam kia Altaf k pas Paise khtam Co-incidence i guess

Nawaz Sharif k betey ne India se madad mangi thi jab Musharraf ne danda diya tha

 

[ice_man]

rangers operation has brought alot of good to Karachi.

the only people crying are MQM. Rest of Karachi is better off

as the charts clearly prove.

 

[Muhammad Omar]

Help kab mangi ye batao ... Iss ka matlab ye nikalta hai or wo nikalta hai chorh do ............




Nawaz Sharif k betey ne India se madad mangi thi jab Musharraf ne danda diya tha

Mere bhai Panah mangne ko kya kehte hain?? Hindu itne Buzdil hain k muhajir pe zulm hota dekh rhy hain madad k liye ni aate Raw walo humein aslah dedo phr btate hain hmari madad ko aajao... NATO pakistan me Intervene kre humein bachai hum pe zulm ho rha hai....

 

[notorious_eagle]

rangers operation has brought alot of good to Karachi.

the only people crying are MQM. Rest of Karachi is better off

as the charts clearly prove.

Khana peena bandh ho gaya hai becharon ka

Shame on you. They are trying to earn an honest living from Bhatta Khori, Target Killing and Kidnapping, why criticize them?

 

[Gazi]

konsa muaqqqaf pakistan tornay ka muaqqaf ya target killers ko bachany ka muaqqaf ya bhattta khoori na rukwany ka muaqqaf???

or mainy ap say MQM ka jawab manga tha naakay imran khan mushahidullah or zardari ka

Har qisam ka Muaqqaf yahan pay Kargil k operation ki Aisi ki Taisi say laikar Taliban k sath Muzakrat aur Pashtunistan tak sab hu chuka hai bas Farq yeh hai k woh sab Ajj kal k Boot Polishitun ki harkaat hain.

Apkay sawal ka Jawab yehi hai jo apnay MQM k mutaliq Pocha hai.

Yeah well said sir ....
i also live in karachi speaks urdu but am not muhajir am PAKISTANI

For me Muhajir is a term that identify different Cultures Migrated from India like Memon (Gujrati), Biharis, Bangalis, Kuchis to some extent and Urdu Speakers they all have preserved their culture and didnt got Marginalized that is why new identity is adopted and embraced whether you like it or not. We are Pakistani by NATIONALITY but by ethnicity Muhajir(or Memon, Urdu Speaker, Bihari etc).

 

[Patriots]

Mere bhai Panah mangne ko kya kehte hain?? Hindu itne Buzdil hain k muhajir pe zulm hota dekh rhy hain madad k liye ni aate Raw walo humein aslah dedo phr btate hain hmari madad ko aajao... NATO pakistan me Intervene kre humein bachai hum pe zulm ho rha hai....

Ye sab 2003 mai kaha tha kiya

 

[AUz]

Agar MQM Major Rote Cause hai tu iskay Daur mai Bina Rangers ya Fauj k Aman agaya kaisay agaya tha????

Wrong. Aman sirf "fauji dor" mein aya tha..jab har ksi ko danda diya hua tha Army general ne (Example: Dekho laal masjid walun k sath kya hua )

MQM's crime, extortions, and gunda gardi are well-known and documented. No need to justify it.

PPP can create so many more Gangs because all Administrative Authorities are rest with them BTW our LEA ever QUESTIONED those who were Involved in Patronizing and strengthening those gangs Lyari on the first place???

No, PPP can't create gangs over-night.

Secondly, wait for the right time...they have all the tapes on PPP as well Btw if you haven't noticed, PPP is being isolated, targeted, and politically countered in Pakistan.

Today, PTI is more powerful than PPP. Just try to grasp that.

MQM has criminals no Doubt that need to be rooted Out and they even had these Elements back then as well but despite of that there was Peace in Karachi without having Boots on the street that is the main concern I am Asking how could(or how Dare) they make peace in the City without use of LEAs in Karachi????

Nothing's wrong with boots on the streets. All countries do it. Even in US, when things went out of control, Special Police Units were created and their boots were much heavier than our Rangers' boots--and they were all over American cities' streets as well.

Boots are temporary. Hopefully, post operation karachi becomes organically peaceful and growth drive..inshallah!

 

[Mughal-Prince]

Well that shows 02 to 07 was best time so if we make a hybrid like give power to those who got mandate and let forces to do an operation across the board and won't spare any one like PPPP, ANP, JI, Lyari GW etc then I believe we will practically be having a city like Dubai in manner of peace and stability. I would say we must put a side our differences and look at the future.

 

[Mughal-Prince]

Wrong. Aman sirf "fauji dor" mein aya tha..jab har ksi ko danda diya hua tha Army general ne (Example: Dekho laal masjid walun k sath kya hua )

Or you can say her aik ko Ous Kay mandate kay mutabiq power di hui thi aur demand rukhi hui thi after that u don't need dunda.

MQM's crime, extortions, and gunda gardi are well-known and documented. No need to justify it.

Crimes due to criminal element doesn't only goes with MQM and same goes to Ghunda Gardi. Extortions were actually the funds people voluntarily provide earlier which runs the party because they has no other way to collect funds but later it becomes extortion due to involuntary collection. It's not a justification what is wrong is actually wrong for all others as well. So take it across the board then it's justified.

No, PPP can't create gangs over-night.

Secondly, wait for the right time...they have all the tapes on PPP as well Btw if you haven't noticed, PPP is being isolated, targeted, and politically countered in Pakistan.

true because PPP had it for long before MQM in Lyari under different people but they have been given high tech weapons and other equipment during their last era.

Today, PTI is more powerful than PPP. Just try to grasp that.

That's indeed funny. IMHO it's an air bubble. They have potential but they don't know how to utilise it its chaos in their own party.

Nothing's wrong with boots on the streets. All countries do it. Even in US, when things went out of control, Special Police Units were created and their boots were much heavier than our Rangers' boots--and they were all over American cities' streets as well.

Boots are temporary. Hopefully, post operation karachi becomes organically peaceful and growth drive..inshallah!

Yes Rightly said Agreed!

 

[Gazi]

Wrong. Aman sirf "fauji dor" mein aya tha..jab har ksi ko danda diya hua tha Army general ne (Example: Dekho laal masjid walun k sath kya hua )

MQM's crime, extortions, and gunda gardi are well-known and documented. No need to justify it.

Army daur mai Karachi mai Operation nahi chal raha tha Ajj ki tarhan MQM k pass Police ka Control tha Aur Rangers ki Karwaiyan bhi na honay k Barabar thin Karachi mai.

MQM's crime and other stuff are only ACCUSATIONS and are mostly EXAGGERATION otherwise if there were Proofs then MQM might have been Banned by now.

No, PPP can't create gangs over-night.

Secondly, wait for the right time...they have all the tapes on PPP as well Btw if you haven't noticed, PPP is being isolated, targeted, and politically countered in Pakistan.

Today, PTI is more powerful than PPP. Just try to grasp that.

You are too naive in this matter as Lyari still belongs to PPP and there are lots of Foot Soldiers who are DEVOTEDLY follow their Landlords in Interior Sindh.

I think you havent Notice that they might have suffered some below in Punjab but in Sindh they are still on the driving seat as no one can take away Interior Sindh from them because of Bhutto slogan so snap out of your Simplicity especially in Sindh Politics because Lotacracy doesnt work here so chances of PTI Thriving in Sindh is non existent.

PTI in Karachi has been largely seen in the same light as MQM Haqiqi used to be seen in 1990s and they are proving themselves to be same by Cheer Leading LEAs rather then talking about Genuine Grievances of Urban Sindh Populace.

Nothing's wrong with boots on the streets. All countries do it. Even in US, when things went out of control, Special Police Units were created and their boots were much heavier than our Rangers' boots--and they were all over American cities' streets as well.

Boots are temporary. Hopefully, post operation karachi becomes organically peaceful and growth drive..inshallah!

There is a difference between Special Police Unit and Para Military forces. They are still remain the individual State's Police setup and follow almost same procedures and are also TIGHTLY monitored by State by their Local State Representatives rather then by Federal Govt. in Washington but here we are comparing a Paramilitary that is meant for Border who have been Called in by the Govt. which MARGINALIZING local Elected Representatives in Karachi in crucial Decision makings of the City so they are not comparable scenarios rather this one is MOST DISCRIMINATORY one in Practice because in the past Local Elected Representatives have PROVED that they can Control the situation without using any Extra LEA Setup.

I think you are too Naive to understand Karachi and Politics let me tell you these Boots are not temporary as without these Boots Central Govt. cant Control the situation especially by Marginalizing the Local Elected Representatives where even Monitoring Committee is seen as a THREAT to operation you can understand the level of Insecurity of Govt. and you think with such insecurity if you think they would call those Paramilitary Back then you are too naive to understand thing.

 

[Genghis khan1]

Har qisam ka Muaqqaf yahan pay Kargil k operation ki Aisi ki Taisi say laikar Taliban k sath Muzakrat aur Pashtunistan tak sab hu chuka hai bas Farq yeh hai k woh sab Ajj kal k Boot Polishitun ki harkaat hain.

Apkay sawal ka Jawab yehi hai jo apnay MQM k mutaliq Pocha hai.
For me Muhajir is a term that identify different Cultures Migrated from India like Memon (Gujrati), Biharis, Bangalis, Kuchis to some extent and Urdu Speakers they all have preserved their culture and didnt got Marginalized that is why new identity is adopted and embraced whether you like it or not. We are Pakistani by NATIONALITY but by ethnicity Muhajir(or Memon, Urdu Speaker, Bihari etc).

Muhajir is not an ethnicity. Call yourself Hindustani, if you so eager to differentiate yourself. Don't malign the word Muhajir.

 

[shah1398]

See the data one more time. 1999-2007 was the best time for Karachi and MQM was also there. Only difference was Musharraf govt. accepted the elected power of Karachi and gave them full support. You can ask anyone most development happened in Karachi during that time. Starting from PPP govt. Karachi became the mess and all blame is on MQM. No one is questioning the rulers of that time.

MQM was there are was ONLY there. With talidogs becoming more active Now they had to face competition from PPP, ANP and Balochi Separatists and it made turf difficult for them so they had to use every asset in their arsenal to get the extortion money. Plus Musharraf kept a lid on them and didnt allow them to cross limits. Story was different afterwards.

 

[Gazi]

Muhajir is not an ethnicity. Call yourself Hindustani, if you so eager to differentiate yourself. Don't malign the word Muhajir.

Of course if people from Migrated Background Start calling themselves Hindustanis then I think it would be humiliation for Pakistani people when they explain that Urdu is mother tongue of Hindustanis or Hindustanis have one of the highest Literacy Rate in Pakistan etc. So Muhajir is a word Convenience and it is Frequently use because it covers non Urdu Speaking Cultures of Migrated community like Memon, Bihari, Bangali, Kuchi etc as they cant be included in the term Urdu Speakers so Muhajir is utilize.

MQM was there are was ONLY there. With talidogs becoming more active Now they had to face competition from PPP, ANP and Balochi Separatists and it made turf difficult for them so they had to use every asset in their arsenal to get the extortion money. Plus Musharraf kept a lid on them and didnt allow them to cross limits. Story was different afterwards.

Its a sane Argument but MQM had criminal Elements back then as well but they still manage to keep situation Peaceful and couldnt let situation go out of hand while today when they are being Marginalized by Govt. Paramilitary is called in to do the job. In theory we may argue the need but in Practice this is called Discrimination in itself because this is what Dictators do when they people dont accept their Authorities.