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ISLAMABAD: Finance Minister Ishaq Dar on Saturday asked the ministries of petroleum and power to strictly follow the timeline for development projects, including those being undertaken under the China-Pakistan Economic Corridor.

During a meeting to review progress on projects in both the sectors, Mr Ishaq Dar was informed that many of them would be completed by December 2017, helping add 10,000MW to the national grid.

The meeting was briefed about the progress on hydroelectric, gas, wind, solar and coal-based power generation projects, their financial arrangements and timelines.

The meeting also reviewed arrangements concerning provision of gas for power projects and development of the required infrastructure.

Minister for Water and Power Khwaja Muhammad Asif, Minister for Petroleum and Natural Resources Shahid Khaqan Abbasi and senior officials of ministries of finance, water and power, petroleum and natural resources, Private Power and Infrastructure Board, National Electric Power Regulatory Authority and National Transmission And Despatch Company Limited also attended.
 
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Does Pakistan import most of its Steam Turbines from China, or other countries (Germany etc.)?
 
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Does Pakistan import most of its Steam Turbines from China, or other countries (Germany etc.)?

Mostly German turbines but latest coal based power plants will use Chinese products.

If they can finish those projects by the time they finish their tenure then i will be sure to vote for them next time. I dont see that happening untill 2020. At most they will manage to inject 3000MW by 2017.
 
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Just to let the members know that during a luncheon meeting this week-end with an old friend from Islamabad; I came to know that GOP is offering guaranteed 20% return to private investors in the renewable energy projects. This gentleman is planning to invest a couple of million dollars in a 50 to 60 MW Wind Power project in Jhimpir wind corridor. The project is still in an embryonic stage as foreign funding is still being negotiated.
 
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Does Pakistan import most of its Steam Turbines from China, or other countries (Germany etc.)?

Mostly German turbines but latest coal based power plants will use Chinese products.

If they can finish those projects by the time they finish their tenure then i will be sure to vote for them next time. I dont see that happening untill 2020. At most they will manage to inject 3000MW by 2017.


GE-9H-Gas-Turbine_PSP31369-063.jpg


Each one weighs nearly 400 tons, as much as two really big blue whales. Each one will cover thousands of miles by sea and land from the place of their birth in Belfort, France, to the farming town of Bhikki in Pakistan’s Punjab province. They are still fairly unknown, but once they reach their destination, they will affect millions of lives.

The giants that will be making their way to Asia are a pair of GE’s air-cooled 9HA gas Turbines the largest and most efficient gas turbines on the planet today. They’re capable of delivering greater than 61 percent efficiency – once the power-generation equivalent of running a four-minute mile – when used in a combined cycle configuration with steam turbines. They will become the beating heart of the Bhikki Combined Cycle Power electricity generation plant that’s being built by China’s Harbin Electric International for Punjab government’s Quaid-e-Azam Thermal Power Ltd. utility.


Top: Workers are assembling the first 9HA turbine at the GE plant in Belfort, France. Above: The first 9HA gas turbine started powering through tests last year in Greenville, S.C. Images credit: GE Power & Water

The new power plant will be a key weapon in Pakistan’s arsenal to roll back crippling electricity shortages that have plagued the country for years. “After a while you just have to find ways to work around the load-shedding,” says Muniza Junaid, a biosciences research associate who works at a leading Pakistani university. “It’s ironic. On the one hand, I work in one of the most advanced laboratories in the country, but on the other I can’t even heat up my dinner or run my washing machine when I want to.”

“Load-shedding” is the term locals commonly use to refer to electricity shortages. For many Pakistanis it’s a critical piece of information that determines how they plan their days, just like the weather forecast in the U.S. or Europe. Load-shedding gets ubiquitous in the sweltering summer heat, when power shortages often exceed 12 hours a day. “I don’t think you can understand what that’s like unless you’ve experienced it for yourself,” Muniza says.


The first 9HA turbine arrived in Greenville, S.C., for testing in 2014. Image credit: GE Power & Water

Here’s what it looks like in numbers: Pakistan’s peak demand and supply gap hovers around 5 gigawatts, enough power to serve some 30 million local homes. The World Bank reported in its 2013 Enterprise Survey that more than 45 percent of local businesses identified electricity shortages as the main obstacle to doing business. The estimated value lost due to power outages tops 22 percent of annual sales.

No wonder fixing the power shortage is one of the top government priorities and a key to boosting the economy and improving the quality of life. The Bhikki plant will be the first power installation to use the turbines in the Middle East, and one of Pakistan’s most efficient. “Everything about this project is going to be larger than life – the world’s largest gas turbine, powering one of the region’s most efficient power plants, generating electricity for millions of households, as well as industry,” says Sardar Haider Khan, the local lead for GE Power & Water’s power generation products business.


A 9HA.01 gas turbine with its rotor on “half-shell” in Belfort, France. Image credit: GE Power & Water

The 9HA is the result of a $2 billion investment by Power & Water. It uses technology originally developed for supersonic jet engines. GE refers to this practice of sharing knowledge among different businesses the GE Store.

The turbine can reach full load in a mere 10 minutes – just a little longer than a plane getting ready to take off – and also offers the flexibility to run on a range of gas and liquid fuels. This is critical for fuel-importing countries such as Pakistan.

The two units at Bhikki will be operated on imported “re-gasified” liquefied natural gas (RLNG), but will be able to use substitute fuels if price or availability of RLNG starts to fluctuate.

Together, they will add more than 1.1 GW to the national grid by 2017 – the equivalent power needed to supply more than six million Pakistani homes. And that is a feat worthy of giants.

Mostly German turbines but latest coal based power plants will use Chinese products.

If they can finish those projects by the time they finish their tenure then i will be sure to vote for them next time. I dont see that happening untill 2020. At most they will manage to inject 3000MW by 2017.

The Projects that will be completed by 2017....

3 RLNG plants are under construction :D

Bhikhi RLNG Plant, Sheikhupura 1180 MW
Balloki RLNG Power Plant, Kasur 1223 MW
Haveli Bahadur Shah RLNG Power Plant 1230 MW

Neelum-Jehlum Hydro Power Project 969 MW 70% work completed
Quaid-e-Azam Solar Park 1000 MW Work Underway by Chinese
Tarbela 4th Extension Hydropower project 1410MW work underway
Kohala Hydropower 1100 MW work underway by Chinese
Suki Kinari Hydropower 870 MW work underway by Chinese
Port Qasim Coal fired Power Plants 1320 MW work underway by Chinese
Sahiwal Coal-fired Power Plants 1320 MW work underway by Chinese
Karot Dam work Started last Month by Chinese 720 MW

There are many others but their Completion date is 2018 2020 and 2022
Like dams Nuclear power plants small Coal power plants in Faisalabad Multan Lahore etc etc
 
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Getting rid of electric shortages will be the biggest achievement of any government of Pakistan in the last 2 decades.

they need another 5 years i reckon to fully cope with the energy issues but if they can achieve this, it will be hard for a pakistani not to give their vote to a government who has gotten rid of chronic load shedding
 
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GE-9H-Gas-Turbine_PSP31369-063.jpg


Each one weighs nearly 400 tons, as much as two really big blue whales. Each one will cover thousands of miles by sea and land from the place of their birth in Belfort, France, to the farming town of Bhikki in Pakistan’s Punjab province. They are still fairly unknown, but once they reach their destination, they will affect millions of lives.

The giants that will be making their way to Asia are a pair of GE’s air-cooled 9HA gas Turbines the largest and most efficient gas turbines on the planet today. They’re capable of delivering greater than 61 percent efficiency – once the power-generation equivalent of running a four-minute mile – when used in a combined cycle configuration with steam turbines. They will become the beating heart of the Bhikki Combined Cycle Power electricity generation plant that’s being built by China’s Harbin Electric International for Punjab government’s Quaid-e-Azam Thermal Power Ltd. utility.


Top: Workers are assembling the first 9HA turbine at the GE plant in Belfort, France. Above: The first 9HA gas turbine started powering through tests last year in Greenville, S.C. Images credit: GE Power & Water

The new power plant will be a key weapon in Pakistan’s arsenal to roll back crippling electricity shortages that have plagued the country for years. “After a while you just have to find ways to work around the load-shedding,” says Muniza Junaid, a biosciences research associate who works at a leading Pakistani university. “It’s ironic. On the one hand, I work in one of the most advanced laboratories in the country, but on the other I can’t even heat up my dinner or run my washing machine when I want to.”

“Load-shedding” is the term locals commonly use to refer to electricity shortages. For many Pakistanis it’s a critical piece of information that determines how they plan their days, just like the weather forecast in the U.S. or Europe. Load-shedding gets ubiquitous in the sweltering summer heat, when power shortages often exceed 12 hours a day. “I don’t think you can understand what that’s like unless you’ve experienced it for yourself,” Muniza says.


The first 9HA turbine arrived in Greenville, S.C., for testing in 2014. Image credit: GE Power & Water

Here’s what it looks like in numbers: Pakistan’s peak demand and supply gap hovers around 5 gigawatts, enough power to serve some 30 million local homes. The World Bank reported in its 2013 Enterprise Survey that more than 45 percent of local businesses identified electricity shortages as the main obstacle to doing business. The estimated value lost due to power outages tops 22 percent of annual sales.

No wonder fixing the power shortage is one of the top government priorities and a key to boosting the economy and improving the quality of life. The Bhikki plant will be the first power installation to use the turbines in the Middle East, and one of Pakistan’s most efficient. “Everything about this project is going to be larger than life – the world’s largest gas turbine, powering one of the region’s most efficient power plants, generating electricity for millions of households, as well as industry,” says Sardar Haider Khan, the local lead for GE Power & Water’s power generation products business.


A 9HA.01 gas turbine with its rotor on “half-shell” in Belfort, France. Image credit: GE Power & Water

The 9HA is the result of a $2 billion investment by Power & Water. It uses technology originally developed for supersonic jet engines. GE refers to this practice of sharing knowledge among different businesses the GE Store.

The turbine can reach full load in a mere 10 minutes – just a little longer than a plane getting ready to take off – and also offers the flexibility to run on a range of gas and liquid fuels. This is critical for fuel-importing countries such as Pakistan.

The two units at Bhikki will be operated on imported “re-gasified” liquefied natural gas (RLNG), but will be able to use substitute fuels if price or availability of RLNG starts to fluctuate.

Together, they will add more than 1.1 GW to the national grid by 2017 – the equivalent power needed to supply more than six million Pakistani homes. And that is a feat worthy of giants.



The Projects that will be completed by 2017....

3 RLNG plants are under construction :D

Bhikhi RLNG Plant, Sheikhupura 1180 MW
Balloki RLNG Power Plant, Kasur 1223 MW
Haveli Bahadur Shah RLNG Power Plant 1230 MW

Neelum-Jehlum Hydro Power Project 969 MW 70% work completed
Quaid-e-Azam Solar Park 1000 MW Work Underway by Chinese
Tarbela 4th Extension Hydropower project 1410MW work underway
Kohala Hydropower 1100 MW work underway by Chinese
Suki Kinari Hydropower 870 MW work underway by Chinese
Port Qasim Coal fired Power Plants 1320 MW work underway by Chinese
Sahiwal Coal-fired Power Plants 1320 MW work underway by Chinese
Karot Dam work Started last Month by Chinese 720 MW

There are many others but their Completion date is 2018 2020 and 2022
Like dams Nuclear power plants small Coal power plants in Faisalabad Multan Lahore etc etc

Need your constructive input @mr42O. Please try (by the way i am not PMLN supporter for your record)
 
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GE-9H-Gas-Turbine_PSP31369-063.jpg


Each one weighs nearly 400 tons, as much as two really big blue whales. Each one will cover thousands of miles by sea and land from the place of their birth in Belfort, France, to the farming town of Bhikki in Pakistan’s Punjab province. They are still fairly unknown, but once they reach their destination, they will affect millions of lives.

The giants that will be making their way to Asia are a pair of GE’s air-cooled 9HA gas Turbines the largest and most efficient gas turbines on the planet today. They’re capable of delivering greater than 61 percent efficiency – once the power-generation equivalent of running a four-minute mile – when used in a combined cycle configuration with steam turbines. They will become the beating heart of the Bhikki Combined Cycle Power electricity generation plant that’s being built by China’s Harbin Electric International for Punjab government’s Quaid-e-Azam Thermal Power Ltd. utility.


Top: Workers are assembling the first 9HA turbine at the GE plant in Belfort, France. Above: The first 9HA gas turbine started powering through tests last year in Greenville, S.C. Images credit: GE Power & Water

The new power plant will be a key weapon in Pakistan’s arsenal to roll back crippling electricity shortages that have plagued the country for years. “After a while you just have to find ways to work around the load-shedding,” says Muniza Junaid, a biosciences research associate who works at a leading Pakistani university. “It’s ironic. On the one hand, I work in one of the most advanced laboratories in the country, but on the other I can’t even heat up my dinner or run my washing machine when I want to.”

“Load-shedding” is the term locals commonly use to refer to electricity shortages. For many Pakistanis it’s a critical piece of information that determines how they plan their days, just like the weather forecast in the U.S. or Europe. Load-shedding gets ubiquitous in the sweltering summer heat, when power shortages often exceed 12 hours a day. “I don’t think you can understand what that’s like unless you’ve experienced it for yourself,” Muniza says.


The first 9HA turbine arrived in Greenville, S.C., for testing in 2014. Image credit: GE Power & Water

Here’s what it looks like in numbers: Pakistan’s peak demand and supply gap hovers around 5 gigawatts, enough power to serve some 30 million local homes. The World Bank reported in its 2013 Enterprise Survey that more than 45 percent of local businesses identified electricity shortages as the main obstacle to doing business. The estimated value lost due to power outages tops 22 percent of annual sales.

No wonder fixing the power shortage is one of the top government priorities and a key to boosting the economy and improving the quality of life. The Bhikki plant will be the first power installation to use the turbines in the Middle East, and one of Pakistan’s most efficient. “Everything about this project is going to be larger than life – the world’s largest gas turbine, powering one of the region’s most efficient power plants, generating electricity for millions of households, as well as industry,” says Sardar Haider Khan, the local lead for GE Power & Water’s power generation products business.


A 9HA.01 gas turbine with its rotor on “half-shell” in Belfort, France. Image credit: GE Power & Water

The 9HA is the result of a $2 billion investment by Power & Water. It uses technology originally developed for supersonic jet engines. GE refers to this practice of sharing knowledge among different businesses the GE Store.

The turbine can reach full load in a mere 10 minutes – just a little longer than a plane getting ready to take off – and also offers the flexibility to run on a range of gas and liquid fuels. This is critical for fuel-importing countries such as Pakistan.

The two units at Bhikki will be operated on imported “re-gasified” liquefied natural gas (RLNG), but will be able to use substitute fuels if price or availability of RLNG starts to fluctuate.

Together, they will add more than 1.1 GW to the national grid by 2017 – the equivalent power needed to supply more than six million Pakistani homes. And that is a feat worthy of giants.



The Projects that will be completed by 2017....

3 RLNG plants are under construction :D

Bhikhi RLNG Plant, Sheikhupura 1180 MW
Balloki RLNG Power Plant, Kasur 1223 MW
Haveli Bahadur Shah RLNG Power Plant 1230 MW

Neelum-Jehlum Hydro Power Project 969 MW 70% work completed
Quaid-e-Azam Solar Park 1000 MW Work Underway by Chinese
Tarbela 4th Extension Hydropower project 1410MW work underway
Kohala Hydropower 1100 MW work underway by Chinese
Suki Kinari Hydropower 870 MW work underway by Chinese
Port Qasim Coal fired Power Plants 1320 MW work underway by Chinese
Sahiwal Coal-fired Power Plants 1320 MW work underway by Chinese
Karot Dam work Started last Month by Chinese 720 MW

There are many others but their Completion date is 2018 2020 and 2022
Like dams Nuclear power plants small Coal power plants in Faisalabad Multan Lahore etc etc

Nice! So massive gas turbines too. Yes these will have to come from the west for maximum quality on dollar spent. China is not quite there yet on gas turbines....but their steam turbines are impressively improving and are already undercutting Siemens and others on price/quality front.

Do you have the latest number on total estimated Natural Gas reserves in Pakistan (I assume this is the choice of fuel for these monsters).
 
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Nice! So massive gas turbines too. Yes these will have to come from the west for maximum quality on dollar spent. China is not quite there yet on gas turbines....but their steam turbines are impressively improving and are already undercutting Siemens and others on price/quality front.

Do you have the latest number on total estimated Natural Gas reserves in Pakistan (I assume this is the choice of fuel for these monsters).

well these Gas turbines will be Powered Qatar LNG :D

Let me look for the gas reserves in Pakistan :)
 
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well these Gas turbines will be Powered Qatar LNG :D

Let me look for the gas reserves in Pakistan :)

Oh ok, I thought the domestic reserves were quite high so assumed they are being used here.

How much LNG does Pakistan import yearly?
 
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Pakistan is using most modern and efficient giant turbines designed by GE and built by China's Harbin

They Might Be Giants: The World’s Largest Gas Turbines Will Light Up #Pakistan - GE Reports http://www.gereports.com/might-gian...nes-will-light-pakistan/#.Vi-QLJpNyu0.twitter

Each one weighs nearly 400 tons, as much as two really big blue whales. Each one will cover thousands of miles by sea and land from the place of their birth in Belfort, France, to the farming town of Bhikki in Pakistan’s Punjab province. They are still fairly unknown, but once they reach their destination, they will affect millions of lives.

The giants that will be making their way to Asia are a pair of GE’s air-cooled 9HA gas turbines, the largest and most efficient gas turbines on the planet today. They’re capable of delivering greater than 61 percent efficiency – once the power-generation equivalent of running a four-minute mile – when used in a combined cycle configuration with steam turbines. They will become the beating heart of the Bhikki Combined Cycle Power electricity generation plant that’s being built by China’s Harbin Electric International for Punjab government’s Quaid-e-Azam Thermal Power Ltd. utility.

The new power plant will be a key weapon in Pakistan’s arsenal to roll back crippling electricity shortages that have plagued the country for years. “After a while you just have to find ways to work around the load-shedding,” says Muniza Junaid, a biosciences research associate who works at a leading Pakistani university. “It’s ironic. On the one hand, I work in one of the most advanced laboratories in the country, but on the other I can’t even heat up my dinner or run my washing machine when I want to.”

“Load-shedding” is the term locals commonly use to refer to electricity shortages. For many Pakistanis it’s a critical piece of information that determines how they plan their days, just like the weather forecast in the U.S. or Europe. Load-shedding gets ubiquitous in the sweltering summer heat, when power shortages often exceed 12 hours a day. “I don’t think you can understand what that’s like unless you’ve experienced it for yourself,” Muniza says.

Here’s what it looks like in numbers: Pakistan’s peak demand and supply gap hovers around 5 gigawatts, enough power to serve some 30 million local homes. The World Bank reported in its 2013 Enterprise Survey that more than 45 percent of local businesses identified electricity shortages as the main obstacle to doing business. The estimated value lost due to power outages tops 22 percent of annual sales.

No wonder fixing the power shortage is one of the top government priorities and a key to boosting the economy and improving the quality of life. The Bhikki plant will be the first power installation to use the turbines in the Middle East, and one of Pakistan’s most efficient. “Everything about this project is going to be larger than life – the world’s largest gas turbine, powering one of the region’s most efficient power plants, generating electricity for millions of households, as well as industry,” says Sardar Haider Khan, the local lead for GE Power & Water’s power generation products business.

The 9HA is the result of a $2 billion investment by Power & Water. It uses technology originally developed for supersonic jet engines. GE refers to this practice of sharing knowledge among different businesses the GE Store.

The turbine can reach full load in a mere 10 minutes – just a little longer than a plane getting ready to take off – and also offers the flexibility to run on a range of gas and liquid fuels. This is critical for fuel-importing countries such as Pakistan.

The two units at Bhikki will be operated on imported “re-gasified” liquefied natural gas (RLNG), but will be able to use substitute fuels if price or availability of RLNG starts to fluctuate.

Together, they will add more than 1.1 GW to the national grid by 2017 – the equivalent power needed to supply more than six million Pakistani homes. And that is a feat worthy of giants.

well these Gas turbines will be Powered Qatar LNG :D

Let me look for the gas reserves in Pakistan :)

There's LNG global supply glut; the prices are very low.

It makes sense to use imported LNG now rather than coal.

LNG burns a lot cleaner.

http://www.riazhaq.com/2015/10/will-pakistan-benefit-from-lng-glut.html
 
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Pakistan is using most modern and efficient giant turbines designed by GE and built by China's Harbin

They Might Be Giants: The World’s Largest Gas Turbines Will Light Up #Pakistan - GE Reports http://www.gereports.com/might-gian...nes-will-light-pakistan/#.Vi-QLJpNyu0.twitter

Each one weighs nearly 400 tons, as much as two really big blue whales. Each one will cover thousands of miles by sea and land from the place of their birth in Belfort, France, to the farming town of Bhikki in Pakistan’s Punjab province. They are still fairly unknown, but once they reach their destination, they will affect millions of lives.

The giants that will be making their way to Asia are a pair of GE’s air-cooled 9HA gas turbines, the largest and most efficient gas turbines on the planet today. They’re capable of delivering greater than 61 percent efficiency – once the power-generation equivalent of running a four-minute mile – when used in a combined cycle configuration with steam turbines. They will become the beating heart of the Bhikki Combined Cycle Power electricity generation plant that’s being built by China’s Harbin Electric International for Punjab government’s Quaid-e-Azam Thermal Power Ltd. utility.

The new power plant will be a key weapon in Pakistan’s arsenal to roll back crippling electricity shortages that have plagued the country for years. “After a while you just have to find ways to work around the load-shedding,” says Muniza Junaid, a biosciences research associate who works at a leading Pakistani university. “It’s ironic. On the one hand, I work in one of the most advanced laboratories in the country, but on the other I can’t even heat up my dinner or run my washing machine when I want to.”

“Load-shedding” is the term locals commonly use to refer to electricity shortages. For many Pakistanis it’s a critical piece of information that determines how they plan their days, just like the weather forecast in the U.S. or Europe. Load-shedding gets ubiquitous in the sweltering summer heat, when power shortages often exceed 12 hours a day. “I don’t think you can understand what that’s like unless you’ve experienced it for yourself,” Muniza says.

Here’s what it looks like in numbers: Pakistan’s peak demand and supply gap hovers around 5 gigawatts, enough power to serve some 30 million local homes. The World Bank reported in its 2013 Enterprise Survey that more than 45 percent of local businesses identified electricity shortages as the main obstacle to doing business. The estimated value lost due to power outages tops 22 percent of annual sales.

No wonder fixing the power shortage is one of the top government priorities and a key to boosting the economy and improving the quality of life. The Bhikki plant will be the first power installation to use the turbines in the Middle East, and one of Pakistan’s most efficient. “Everything about this project is going to be larger than life – the world’s largest gas turbine, powering one of the region’s most efficient power plants, generating electricity for millions of households, as well as industry,” says Sardar Haider Khan, the local lead for GE Power & Water’s power generation products business.

The 9HA is the result of a $2 billion investment by Power & Water. It uses technology originally developed for supersonic jet engines. GE refers to this practice of sharing knowledge among different businesses the GE Store.

The turbine can reach full load in a mere 10 minutes – just a little longer than a plane getting ready to take off – and also offers the flexibility to run on a range of gas and liquid fuels. This is critical for fuel-importing countries such as Pakistan.

The two units at Bhikki will be operated on imported “re-gasified” liquefied natural gas (RLNG), but will be able to use substitute fuels if price or availability of RLNG starts to fluctuate.

Together, they will add more than 1.1 GW to the national grid by 2017 – the equivalent power needed to supply more than six million Pakistani homes. And that is a feat worthy of giants.



There's LNG global supply glut; the prices are very low.

It makes sense to use imported LNG now rather than coal.

LNG burns a lot cleaner.

http://www.riazhaq.com/2015/10/will-pakistan-benefit-from-lng-glut.html

that's why apart form these 3 RLNG power Plants GOV is also converting some Thermal power Plants into LNG based power Plants that'll produce 3000 MW to
 
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Need your constructive input @mr42O. Please try (by the way i am not PMLN supporter for your record)

u should ask Khawaja Asifa , Mia brother for input since they are saying it will not be possible

What i am against is secret deals , projects that will harm environment and mega projects which cant be used in few years.
 
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Getting rid of electric shortages will be the biggest achievement of any government of Pakistan in the last 2 decades.

they need another 5 years i reckon to fully cope with the energy issues but if they can achieve this, it will be hard for a pakistani not to give their vote to a government who has gotten rid of chronic load shedding


Common man, you've started to measure others based on performance?? (which is the right thing to do :tup:), but "some" on here would rather baster*dize everything performance based, with their "I hate NS without real reasons" crap!!!!

But I agree, this is the single MOST important thing anyone could do for Pakistan. That being done in 5 years (a mess of nearly 60+ years being fixed in 5 is a LOT of performance). The electricity would kick start factories, businesses, the economy, and will provide relief to people who suffer. Good work :enjoy::tup:
 
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