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Are you implying that if Pakistan did not join the project, the JF17 would have never reached it's current state? China has the J10B, J11B, and J20. JF17 is a toy in comparison. I appreciate being proud of one's nation but being blind to common sense and facts is not very healthy. Pakistan's...

More wishful thinking on part of Pakistanis. They will probably next claim they had input into the J20. Delusional silly people.

you're delusional. the source is from someone who works in CAC. As if getting a J10A is some kind of punishment. You guys are ridiculous!

Again, nothing mentioned about a J10 production line! You people are ridiculous!

So what? What does that article have to do with a J10 production line? It's a fanboy dream not serious idea.

Because the J10 is a Chinese designed and produced aircraft. What is this "rumor" of TOT? Are you sure that is not just fanboy's dreams?

You only hide offensive weapons if you want to start a war. For defense, you want to show what defensive weapons you have to deter the enemy from attacking. Pakistan does not have HQ9. If it did, it would announce it, maybe not the numbers of batteries but it would make sure India knew it had them.

Thank you Krash. Very reasonable answer. I will study the Al-Khalid thread.

I'm not sure about the Ghauri but I'm certain that Pakistan did not design or build the JF-17 or the Al-Khalid. Would Pakistan be able to build the JF-17 independently without China's involvement? 100% no. I think Pakistan has a long way to go before they are capable of even building a...

China may follow the USA model. The J20 is it's F22, which will not be exported even to Pakistan. China will develop a smaller less advanced JXX that it probably will export in the future to Pakistan, maybe 2020-30, depending on Pakistan's needs. China would have no need to supply Pakistan with...

This is what the chinese sources say: See the boldened section? MECHANICALLY ROTATING conventional radar. Since this is an AWAC, of course the radar is going to rotate horizontally 360 degrees, but it is not an AESA but a traditional pulse doppler.

Yes but the Chinese source has revealed that the Radar is not AESA but a traditional one. If anyone would know, the Chinese would because they're the ones who made it! So you can continue to believe that this is all "top secret" and we can never know. The Chinese source says otherwise.

Thank you. Chinese sources confirm that the radar is not an AESA but a conventional type.

Sir, I think you are being dishonest. PAF Falcons - PAF s' News Section Here it is reported in Dec 2008 that a 278M contract was signed. PAF Falcons - Roll out ceremony of first of Four Chinese ZDK-03 AWACS aircraft for Pakistan Air Force Here we read the contract was for FOUR ZDK03...

All of you are delusional! WOW! I must shake my head at all of you! It was signed in 2009 a 278M deal for FOUR planes! This is not too difficult to understand! You are delusional.

Sir, you are clearly delusional. 278M for a total of FOUR planes SIGNED in 2009! Today is 2010 sir! and the first delivery is expected end of 2010! What is so hard to understand? You sir, are in denial!

I just did, sir. What's the matter? not feeling well? 278M deal for four planes. Do the math.

Chinese Military Aviation | China Air Force ZDK-03 is an export AWACS system being developed for the Pakistani Air Force. This project was initiated in the early 2000. A prototype (serial # T0518/Project 021) based on Y-8 Category II Platform was first discovered at CFTE in early 2006...

Poor Taimakhan. Are you feeling ok? You are delusional. Read your own article or have you lost all capability to read at this point? Let me ask you this: IF it is proven that the deal was 278M for FOUR planes, will you concede your loss?

Sir, the only one who appear to have their @$$ burning red hot are those who wear the pakistani flags! Look at Taimakhan! The poor boy is so angry he has lost all logical reasoning ability. :hitwall: