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Is this the quality of a post expected from a senior moderator??!!! You of all should know better what the Russians have achieved in the Military Aviation sector!!

10 Frigates x 275 million USD (Type 054a) = 2.75 billion USD 20 Missile Boats x 125 million USD (Type 22 FAC) = 2.5 billion USD 36 J11 x 45 million USD = 1.6 billion USD 6 Submarines x 300 million USD = 1.8 billion USD 4 Agosta x 400 million USD = 1.6 billion USD TOTAL - 10.25 billion USD...

There will be NO JF-17 Stealth!! Please do not misunderstand the term. It is not possible to make any aircraft into a stealth aircraft without MAJOR redesigning which would tantamount to a brand new airframe and essentially a different platform. At best, these aircraft can have a reduced RCS...

I literally beg the senior members on the forum to please detail the components which have been created, developed and integratedby Pakistani R&D Labs into the JF-17 or the J-10B so as to put this debate to rest. Both planes are capable multi-role fighters and engineers and scientists from...

GE404IN for the first 40 LCA MK1 already integrated and in production. GE414IN for the MK2 already selected and ordered after competitive bidding. Officially this just makes you sound illiterate.

The Phazotron Zhuk AE AESA radar has been ready for 2 years now and was unveiled at the MAKS 2009. It was primarily developed for the Mig-35, the successor to the Mig-29. Zhuk radar - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

3 Arihant Class SSBN's - The first INS Arihant will be inducted by 2012-13 with the other two planned for delivery in 2016 and 2018 respectively. Mentioned in the post already. :yahoo:

Correction they indeed are the U-209's n not the 212"s. However the upgrade package is for these subs and not for the Kilo Class subs. http://www.defence.pk/forums/india-defence/102280-india-talks-germany-upgrade-hdw-vessel-capabilities.html After this upgrade, they will be expected to remain...

There will be a gap of almost 15 years (1999 - 2013) when no new submarine would be inducted into the Navy. This would obviously lead to a shorfall in fleet numbers. However the IN has taken steps to correct this and provided there are no delays by the MoD or the Bureaucracy, the IN submarine...

Just for my information, what radar does Pakistan have which is better than a radar with the Indian Armed Forces at 10% of the price?? Forget better, even comparable?!!

ANY sources for your 3 statements would be appreciated. PAF is purchasing the KJ-200. They have no intention in purchasing the KJ-2000 due to many factors, one of them being restricted airframe availability. The Israeli Phalcon is considered one of, if not the best AWACS in the world. Just...

Maybe you forgot that the MTCR is different from the NSG. The US took special clearance from the NSG for the Indian nuclear deal. The US is taking a strong view against China's violation of its NSG commitments, but also recognises the importance of Pakistans Energy sector which is in shambles...

I didn't counter ur MTCR post cause didnt wanna derail the thread further. If u had read my post carefully, it didn't contradict nething as i had mentioned China has recently officially applied for membership of the MTCR. Which country would apply and then jeopardise its position?? Please...

While you were busy giving me a lesson on my "Wishful Thinking", this is what happened in reality. 1) The Missile Technology Control Regime (MTCR) was established in April 1987 by Canada, France, Germany, Italy, Japan, Great Britain, and the United States. Neither China nor Saudi Arabia were...

While what you are saying is right, this cannot ever happen as the MTCR does not permit missiles wit a range of more than 300 kms to be exported.

Which i was trying to say in the first place, albeit with wasted sarcasm. Hahaha

Russia sold the SU-27 and the SU-30 MKK to China. Both aircraft have been designed by and paid for by Russia without Indian contribution. Russia may sell the Pak-Fa to whomsoever it pleases, although i don't think that it will do so. However it cannot do the same with the FGFA which is being...

Yes but that would mean overflying Indian territory which is not gonna happen. Taking a detour around peninsular India will easily add 700-1000 kms more to the distance. Thanks ---------- Post added at 11:12 AM ---------- Previous post was at 11:11 AM ---------- Are u saying that a JF-17...

The latest Mig-29 is the Mig-29 OVT also known as the Mig-35. Pardon my ignorance but in which field, be it Range, Speed, MTOW, T/W Ratio, Hardpoints, Radar, Avionics or anything else is the JF-17 Blk 1 better than the SMT let alone the OVT. Information would be appreciated.

So are you implying that China should be better friends with India with whom bilateral trade stands at 30 billion USD as compared to Pakistan where it stands at 8 billion USD??