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  1. HellFireIndo

    Vietnam patrol ship provoke Indonesia Patrol Corvette in Indonesia EEZ

    Being an "agrarian" country itself is not "bad". But overestimating Vietnam's position as an rice exporter, as an "agrarian" country and even undermining other's country's agricultural sector as being "lesser" or "not self-sufficient", based only from your own nonsense assumption, is definitely...
  2. HellFireIndo

    Vietnam patrol ship provoke Indonesia Patrol Corvette in Indonesia EEZ

    Yes, there are rice imports from Vietnam, but : https://www.indonesia-investments.com/id/news/todays-headlines/self-sufficiency-in-rice-achieved-indonesia-to-become-rice-exporter/item7603? or even : https://www.worldatlas.com/articles/the-countries-producing-the-most-rice-in-the-world.html...
  3. HellFireIndo

    Vietnam patrol ship provoke Indonesia Patrol Corvette in Indonesia EEZ

    I'm pretty sure that what you are saying here contradicts the what the Singaporean guy wants, and your complement of the Chinese is nothing more than a desperate face-saving effort. Even more pathetic that even after these Chinese members explicitly shows here of how they are not in Vietnam's...
  4. HellFireIndo

    Indonesia Defence Forum

    I agree that Sea Ceptor/CAMM is overall better investment than MICA, in performance, price and other characteristics. They are cheaper than MICA, only 1 million USD top each, they have better range that is marketed as 25km+ compared to MICA's 20km range, they have active radar guidance, they are...
  5. HellFireIndo

    Vietnam patrol ship provoke Indonesia Patrol Corvette in Indonesia EEZ

    Cool, let's make ship-ramming an official sport for the next SEA games.
  6. HellFireIndo

    Vietnam patrol ship provoke Indonesia Patrol Corvette in Indonesia EEZ

    Shhhhtttt......we don't even need to flash our superior armaments, the fact that Vietnam is still isn't able to design a simple APC despite claiming as a military superpower is already ironic and embarrassing enough, they can't counter it lol, not even by flashing their soon-to-be-fossilized...
  7. HellFireIndo

    Vietnam patrol ship provoke Indonesia Patrol Corvette in Indonesia EEZ

    Very unfortunate that the Vietnamese guy dragged India into this heated argument, for some reason he mentioned Indian Mig-21 as being lesser to their Su-22s, they make unnecessary provocation cause they just can't control the words that came from their mouths. This is not even the first time...
  8. HellFireIndo

    Indonesia Defence Forum

    Martadinata-class frigates were meant to replace all Ahmad Yani-class frigates, so it's pretty much "confirmed" that we will at least have 6 ships of this class....maybe. There's no doubt for the 3rd and 4th frigate, but the question is...will it be 4 total Martadinata and 2 Iver Huitfeldt, 6...
  9. HellFireIndo

    Vietnam patrol ship provoke Indonesia Patrol Corvette in Indonesia EEZ

    Vietnam was prosperous and had a mighty navy. we had paved roads..... in basic English, to complete the sentence, one must add "in my opinion", or "in my imagination" so that the sentence would make sense and acceptable, otherwise, the information given will be treated as false, and therefore...
  10. HellFireIndo

    Indonesia Defence Forum

    Sorry if my post tend to be too long to read, i often overthinks things and feeling uncomfortable if i don't go all out.
  11. HellFireIndo

    Vietnam patrol ship provoke Indonesia Patrol Corvette in Indonesia EEZ

    How ironic it is that a citizen of a commie socialist country is now talking about Elite and Peasants! let's talk about inequality and class divides that supposedly dismantled by communism shall we? If a country's prestige must be strictly defined by it's highest ruling class, then France will...
  12. HellFireIndo

    Indonesia Defence Forum

    I know that Orde Lama era kind of diverse and un-standardized camo is one huge logistical problem, that first realized by LB Moerdani, who made the DPM standart PDL camo for all of the Armed Forces. I do wanted TNI to keep this principle to an extent, that at least they choose one of the new...
  13. HellFireIndo

    Indonesia Defence Forum

    It's better to just tell Sritex and other manufacturers to discontinue the DPM and stick to the new camos, including the NKRI. I don't understand why older Army officers are against the new camo, it's pretty good tbh, the design and cuts have more functionality and i could say that they blends...
  14. HellFireIndo

    Vietnam patrol ship provoke Indonesia Patrol Corvette in Indonesia EEZ

    As i said earlier, hyping about one's own self is not a wise thing to do, especially if you are Vietnamese, as it will goes down very quickly, and ends in disappointment. Taking a short look at all the data, and there's no need for Indonesia to flash at all, nah, we just enjoy what we have, a...
  15. HellFireIndo

    Indonesia Defence Forum

    Hmm, Army's Cavalry cadets. But what got me curious is the uniform, the instructor wears the new NKRI PDL, while the cadets wears the old DPM camo. It is understandable for the cadets to be given whatever uniform stock available, or due to the fact that DPM camo is more "traditional" in some...
  16. HellFireIndo

    Vietnam patrol ship provoke Indonesia Patrol Corvette in Indonesia EEZ

    Really? so Vietnam here is just a fluffy innocent victim now? However, your big pussied comrade here has a different opinion about Vietnam's stance: Like you, he also got hard on talking about Pol Pot, Khmer, and invasions. I don't think his words is anything in resemblance of a peaceful...
  17. HellFireIndo

    Vietnam patrol ship provoke Indonesia Patrol Corvette in Indonesia EEZ

    I like how these Viets are so good at making enemies, first it was Indonesians and Cambodians, then the Chinese, now they provokes the Pakistanis while also finger pointing half of the world, calling this country a puppet of this country and so on...
  18. HellFireIndo

    Indonesia Defence Forum

    About 8.9 Billion USD, glad that it's growing, for few years back it keeps flunctuating, up and down but never exceed 9 Billion USD mark. I really wish the defense budget could grow more consistently along with the economic growth, i know that budgetary matters are complicated and it's really...
  19. HellFireIndo

    Indonesia Defence Forum

    Mr.Woof Woof, i think i have talked you somewhere in other corner of the internet, Mr. Tukang Ngitung isn't it? You are the ambitious kind of forumer i see, you are consistent with your opinion and viewpoint about having better and more armament options is the go-to strategy, or in other word...
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