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I agree. That's basically what I was advocating in my long rant/essay in the other thread. Without any mass movement and active participation from the citizens, nothing will change

I agree. A lot of these problems are already being discussed: on this forum, through social media, on tv, but they're still not getting solved. What do you think is an appropriate action at this point?

A lot of our fellow Pakistanis

Yes because its a reminder that we're still fighting independence from terrorism, feudalism, corruption, and other ills. Also people sacrificed so much for this land, lets not dishonor them by forgetting their sacrifices.

Exactly! When the majority want a change, the change will happen. I guess right now Pakistanis are content with the horrible conditions of Pakistan, because no one is doing anything to stop them. But when they decide to wake up and stand up against terrorism, feudalism, gender...

The democratic system will evolve, just give it some time. Remember Rome wasn't built in a day and Pakistan has been in military rule for most of its history. This election had the highest voter turnout in any election with most of them being the youth. So people do want a change in Pakistan...

I understand your frustrations and anger, I feel the same emotions. However, change doesn't come until people actively do something. My biggest problem with Pakistanis is that they are too indifferent to the problems that occur. We can't expect things to miraculously change without the...

Can anyone explain why Zardari and his government would put a ban on executions in a time where attacks on Pakistan were a all time high? And many groups were attacking the state? If these people were hanged when they were supposed to, then we might not have seen as many attacks that we're...

Imran Khan condemned the attack: https://twitter.com/ImranKhanPTI

I became disillusioned when they destroyed Jinnahs residency in Ziarat. Thats when I saw that there was actually proof that Jinnah's Pakistan is dead. We're now in the era of TTP/LEJ Pakistan

No one is listening because no one in Pakistan (except for a few) have stood up against extremism. Pakistan should just change its name to indifferentistan.

Of course, its just a matter of time before Pakistan starts resembling afghanistan. Unless the state wakes up and starts eliminating these groups seriously. You have people speaking openly on TV and through sermons advocating the killing of people just because their beliefs are different. And...

At least the Rwandan Patriotic Front decided that enough was enough and decided to get rid of the genocidal regime in Rwanda, which ended the civil war and genocide there. In Pakistan unless your own community or someone you know is attacked or killed, no one cares and will go about their...

Same. At the rate at which we're going, the only people left in Pakistan will be TTP, LEJ, and other extremist groups and we'll read 50 years later how Pakistan is in the same category as Rwanda or Bosnia because majority of the population was wiped out by these groups.

Many of the Muslim League leaders and proponents of Pakistan were Agha Khani. Just when I think that Pakistan can't fall any lower, it does.

Of course PML-N will listen to their demands. Extremists and the taliban already control Pakistan. They already wished the Pakistani people a happy independence day: Consecutive blasts in Karachi Jamaat Khana leaves 2 dead – The Express Tribune

Yeah their place of worship is called a Jamat Khana

2 killed and 40 injured when a grenade was thrown at (2?) jamat khana's in Karachi. All of the injured/dead were women and children. Consecutive cracker blasts in Karachi Jamaat Khana leaves 2 dead KARACHI: At least two people were killed and 40 injured when two cracker explosions took place...

Happy Independence day. I'll only celebrate independence day with full honor when Jinnah's ideal and vision are fully implemented in Pakistan (which hasnt happened yet)

No it is not. Neither is it is in any of those other countries, just in the UK