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IVC (not modern Pakistan you idiot) was started by farmers from Middle East. Read the journal article I posted. Farming was independently developed only 3 times in Human history: - in Fertile Crescent - in China (around Yellow river) - in Mexico Farmers moved to Europe and Indus from Middle...

Onge and Jarawa migrated to Andamans when Varanasi became unlivable for some God-Knows-why reason. They are the original Varanasites. #ReturnVaranasiToOnge

Where did you see me make any reference to skin color at all? This is what I call inferiority complex.

Bangladesh, AND Myanmar's. Varanasi is Myanmar's history too - check this out:

Why do you care about the religion of our ancestors? Whether Buddhist, Hindu or Zoroastrian, rest assured that they saw you ganga dwellers as Untermenschen. The Vedic guys were so repulsed by your looks that they even called you "Rakshasa" (Demons!)

Indian Dalits and upper castes don't look too different. At least I can't tell the difference. Just like I can't tell the difference between a Korean and a Japanese. Only Brahmins from maybe Punjab or Kashmir look a little better.

IVC existed before H. Sapiens evolved. IVC is Vedic. IVC started under the depths of Saraswati, moved West and civilized ancient Pakistanis. IVC spoke Sanskrit. Sanskrit is the mother of all languages. Anything I missed? Now go sleep in peace gangaturd.

Both archeology and genetics point to a Middle Eastern origin of Indus. One of the most recent paper on Indus genetics, co-authored by 90 researchers from the US and India: https://www.biorxiv.org/content/early/2018/03/31/292581 Get educated before posting.

He is almost right. He should say "Sindh is the only India". What we know as India today is actually Ganges, Deccan and Dravida Nadu.

Who is more Hindu? A Brahmin or a Dalit?

The hindutva arguments against AIT has been the same for the last 70 years, even in the face of overwhelming scientific evidence in favor of AIT over the last 2 decades. Fighting against truth is hard, and will get harder in the coming days as more aDNA and archeological evidences are dug up.

You are closer to Europeans compared to Indian lesser castes only. You are still far too Dravidian compared to us. It can, when you let other men join your ranks. How come Brahmins have H, R2, C5?

People can think anything they want, but science can settle all disagreements. It's important for us to know the true history of South Asia.

Nonsense. You have mixed with Dravidians for thousand of years and your R1a % dropped - go check the statistics. Z93 is just a very downstream subclade of M17.

Most of you lesser castes are descended from these hunter/gatherers.

Can't disagree. They have stretched the red ellipse too far to the left. MA1 is the oldest R1, found in Southern Siberia. No ancient R1a/R1b samples from Europe are older than Bronze Age.

@2800 The R1a map you posted is for a very downstream subclade called Z93. Here is a better map that covers most branches of R1a: Source: Indo-European.eu Ancient Pakistani men went to India and started the Brahmin caste. That explains their high R1a frequency compared to other Indians.

I like this map better. ------------------ The following y-dna haplogroups were native to India during the Paleolithic: H, C Indus civilization was started by neolithic farmers belonging to y-dna haplogroups: J2, R2 and L1 These ones came with the Indo-Aryans: R1a1, Q

Most of the other ancient DNA analysed from samples around Indus region show very high Iran_N (neolithic Iranian farmer) component. These are the people who started urban civilization in the Indus similar to those in the Middle East around the same time. Rakhigarhi has less of Iran_N and very...

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