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They believe Vietnam to be part of China apparently. This is there low key way of saying it.

LOL. Always counting on outside forces to do what puny Vietnam is incapable of.

I'm not exactly a novice when it comes to submarine design either. My statements are simplified for layman understanding and highlighted very important features in new Diesel electric subs that would make them superior to older ones. Submarine generations are not as easily separated as aircraft...

Lets go with current things. shall we. I mean Vietnam will have death stars when they face China in the future.

Let me make this clear to you. What China can produce in half a year is more than Vietnam can buy from Russia in 10. A single type 052C destroyer has more fire power and displacement then your entire modern navy.

The KA 28 is a ship based helicopter. However the Gepard does not have a hangar which means it can only hold helicopters from larger ships temporarily. Larger ships that Vietnam does not have. As for US the only class close to Gepard they have is the LCS which costs 700 million domestically...

And why would the US do that? US has far better relations with Phillipines and have been their allies for 50 plus years. The more likely event is that US tells Vietnam to stop conflict with Phillipines and then crush Vietnam when it refuses.

Because it obviously doesn't. Nowhere does it say in the article that the Gepard 3.9 has a hanger. It says the package came with KA 28s, not that the export Gepards could hold it. We're envious of the Gepards like a Ferrari owner is envious of a FIAT.

Yes we are very jealous of the two imported corvettes you have when we produce 8 frigates, and destroyers a year.

no offense spark but you know that the phillipines have just as large a dispute with Vietnam as China right? The fantasy that the ASEAN countries are working together against China simply doesn't exist.

You should as well. Your statement was just as false as his.

You are. Pictorial proof shows that the Gepard 3.9 does not have a hangar which means it cannot service helicopters or patrol with them. It has a helipad which means it can hold helicopters for a while from larger ships in a patrol. This would help if Vietnam had any larger ships than the...

Neither of your statements are correct. Nobody won the war. Thats why its still ongoing

When all the real life arguments are over you can count on niceguy to make up imaginary BS to keep arguing on.

LOL. You can't just graft a hanger onto a ship thats not designed for it. The Gepard 3.9 is structurally different from the Gepard 3. The Gepard 3 is 2,100 tons and the Gepard 3.9 only 1,500 tons. Even the Russians themselves would not be able to it. Also argue with facts not wet dreams like...

Because all countries will downgrade exports compared to domestic versions. Did you think your country was exempt from this rule?

No its Russian. The animation is a correct representation of the Russian Gepard 3, The domestic non downgraded version of the Gepard.

Hell they could put a UFO in it if they wanted. Its a CGI, not actual footage. Are you also going to claim that they are speaking Vietnamese?

that is a Russian CGI on a Russian Gepard 3 which does have hangars for helicopters. The 3.9 does not have a hangar. Embarrassing when you know less about your own military than a Foreigner no?

Would they need to if Indian trolls hadn't filled up the first page of the thread with comments like " shame on Cheap Copying Chinese", and the like? Don't expect no reactions when you make inflammatory one liners.