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    Pakistan F-16 Discussions 2

    Just saw a statement from the Minister for defence production Rana Tanveer on ARY News that Pakistan is still in talks with Washington over the sale of F-16 aircraft...it seems that our obsession with the -16 is not yet over nonetheless now that the original deal for 8 F-16's has expired...it...
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    Aerial Views From Monal Islamabad

    Looks stunning indeed....my favourite city:smitten:
  3. Beethoven

    F-16 deal expires amid Pakistan-US row over finances

    @MastanKhan tomorrow is the last date for issuing the LoA...judging by the way things are proceeding i don't think Pakistan is going to do that...so that brings me to my question...where does PAF go from here?????
  4. Beethoven

    F-16 deal expires amid Pakistan-US row over finances

    @Zibago it really depends i mean there are multiple possibilities firstly you can get J 10 C off the shelf you dont need to wait for that...secondly if you want JF 17 in its current form then you must add a decent pod for ground attack in order to make it viable for operations in FATA....and...
  5. Beethoven

    F-16 deal expires amid Pakistan-US row over finances

    Looks like Pakistan has finally decided to part ways with this gem of a fighter....F-16's...you will be missed...
  6. Beethoven

    JF-17 Thunder's Armament

    Guys I have come across a lot of posts in this forum about JF-17 being underpowered....just to add my two cents here i personally think if you keep the engine the same and use more carbon composites in the airframe or the fuselage that is going to make a difference and it will automatically...
  7. Beethoven

    F-16 deal expires amid Pakistan-US row over finances

    I've been saying this for a long time now...don't wait for the F-16's...negotiate with Turkey for Aselpod...Damn good pod for ground attack...check out its video on youtube...integrate it with the JF-17's and viola...your problem has been solved
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    Pakistan may get F-16s by July: experts

    Forget about July guys...May 24th is the last date for signing the Letter of Acceptance for the F-16's...otherwise you can kiss your favourite aircraft goodbye... And I've also read that LM is shutting down F-16 production line by the end of next year so if you wanna buy the aircraft this is...
  9. Beethoven

    China Pakistan Economic Corridor (CPEC) | Updates & Discussions

    Dont want to sound pessimistic or anything but it has been 4 months since the honorable prime minister inagurated the construction of the western route from zhob to mughalkot but the reality is no progress has been made on ground so far....when does the govt intend to start working on this part?????
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    Before questioning Nawaz, I will respond to allegations leveled against me: Imran

    The audacity with which people defend a sitting Prime Minister accused of corruption charges makes me wonder where are we heading as a nation....then we sit in our cozy drawing rooms blaming the west for the faults that lie within ourselves
  11. Beethoven

    Pakistan to look for other options if F-16 deal with US doesn’t materialise

    Tired of hearing the other options story again and again....Mr Asif if you really have options bring them to the table and start serious negotiations about it otherwise its high time you stopped this and pay the Americans the money to get those -16's.
  12. Beethoven

    Pakistan may Purchase Chinese Surface-to-Air Missile System HQ-9

    Seeing is believing.....i'll believe when i see these systems getting inducted....
  13. Beethoven

    Will China Sell New Long-Range Surface-to-Air Missiles to Pakistan?

    Yeah right.....and @Viper0011. Was the same person who Said F-16's were coming to Pakistan both New and Used.... @Viper0011. Everything you say needs to be taken with a huge bucket of salt...because at the end of the day things you mention dont even get close to materialisation...
  14. Beethoven

    Turkey to modernize F-16 fighter jets of Pakistan Air Force

    If it was upto me...i would've picked the Aselpod without wasting anytime....damn good pod for precision strike especially for our JF-17'S Having a look at what Turkey has to offer....I can say for sure that there is a lot of space for defence cooperation between Pakistan and Turkey
  15. Beethoven

    Pakistan F-16 Discussions 2

    Just saw on Samaa tv that Pakistan plans to upgrade its F-16's in Turkey.The total cost of this upgrade is put at 75 million dollars.What sort of upgrades are we talking about???? And are these -16's the ones that we got from Jordan?????
  16. Beethoven

    Pakistan Accuses India of Lobbying to Block F-16 Sale

    Guys if the Egyptians can buy Rafales on soft loans from France why can't we do the same with the -16's from America....am sure LM would be more than happy to oblige....
  17. Beethoven

    Key US lawmakers not willing to back military aid to Pakistan

    I have said this before and i'll say it again....since we r buying aircraft with national funds increase the fighters in question from 8 to 18....complete a squadron, negotiate with LM about payment in installments over the next 2 or 3 years and everybody is a winner...why create the fuss???
  18. Beethoven

    Pakistan raises issue of F-16 sale with visiting US commander

    Let me give a solution to break the impasse...since we are not in the position to pay the full amount now let's put down 270 million as our down payment and get the work started on our -16's,assuming they will not be delivered before 2-3 years let's sort out an installment plan with LM that is...
  19. Beethoven

    Apache escorts ISIS?

    This indeed is a worrying phenomena.....fingers are being raised against the Americans for not acting against the Islamic state the way it did against Iraq and Afghanistan....the Americans are playing a very dangerous double game here and with Russia into the fray the plan may very well backfire...
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    Samsung ‘most loved brand’ in Pakistan

    Damn right you are bro....i currently own a note 3 thinking about upgrading to note 4....but not a favorite of the current note5 i think i'll settle with note 4
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