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Maybe this is the second one, if true.

Yes, i wanted to include something like 'people making emotional defeatists remarks should not post' in that post, but who am i to enforce things on people anyway, oh well. Yabancilar da bu halinize guler.

If i'm not wrong, i saw some tweets yesterday that funnily blamed the Turkish artillery for the failure of saa operations in that region. That article has nothing to do with the attack of today.

Then Russia was also weak against us because Putin didn't order to attack after downing their plane? Full fledged war between two states carry more consequences than proxy warfare between the two. Revenge can also be achieved in other ways, but of course it would be nice for the public too if...

Patience, bro. Revenge, directly or indirectly, in a cool headed manner is better than wildly jumping to the gun. This incident justifies us even more to roll in more troops, heavier equipment and anti-air systems into Syria with the excuse of defending the operation against a new threat...

Turkey to chair 2017 Energy Club of Shanghai Cooperation Organization Turkey will chair the Energy Club of Shanghai Cooperation Organization in 2017, being the first non-SCO country to do so. The SCO Energy Club brings together some of the world largest energy producers and consumers in the...

This is not about Erdogan vs Gulen. It's about Turkey vs Gulen. Unfortunately this sentence has shown that you are misled too. Some people and Western media in general are very eager to portray the situation as if Gulen is some peace-loving foe of the akp doing political opposition, which is...

Don't forget the crucial EU protection. That protection stimulates the pkk and its supporters to do almost whatever they want and organize more clearly, unlike unwanted criminal organizations that would get crushed fast. If the EU would seriously crack down on the pkk, all those attacks and...

Abi ic politikaya bagli konular kapatilamaz mi? Anca birbirimizi yiyoruz. Hadi anlasmazlikta kalsa da neyse, ama yok maalesef illa kufur edilmeli, iftira atilmali ve asagilanmali. Bu forumda en cok birbirine kin kusan millet galiba biziz. Yabancilar da bizim halimize gulsun. He's a think tank...

So it seems our officials are still trying to get a better deal from nato system suppliers by threatening to buy a Russian system after the Chinese deal didn't go anywhere. If in the meantime work on the domestic system is continuing, fine, but how long more is this whole process going to take...

It might be possible that the ypg is merely trying to win time by delaying the fsa and distracting it from focusing on al-bab. There's also the following tweet from a pro-Assadist. We shall see, anything can be expected from assad and ypg partnership.

If such low rank Gulenists are still member and haven't left by now after everything that has happened, then they are just as accountable as accomplices, and even worse if they are found guilty. That counts for every crime and criminal organization. Anyway, more importantly, high ranking...

Yes, you're right, i forgot that option.

Short answer: Gulen is attempting to build his own imperium since the 70's or so through using religion and becoming a cult of personality for his followers. Gulen is a complex topic to explain in short. The following article might be a start to get an understanding on Gulen organization's...

Exactly. Till now many important Gulenists have escaped Turkey for Europe and the US. They wouldn't have escaped if they knew they were innocent. That Gulen is staying in the US and refuses to return to Turkey says something too. Interestingly, there are 20 Gulenists or so that have committed...

Teachers teaching at Gulen's school end up as Gulen's members, whether they want it or not. For example, in the US those young teachers, often eager to get a job, get US working visa through Gulen's schools. The moment they question or act not in line with those Gulen schools' policies, their...

Our great relationship initially might have started out of religious sympathy, but as time goes by our relationship will evolve and encompass much more than common religion alone. Good deeds will always be remembered, and so Pakistan will not be forgotten nor made to be forgotten. Rationally...

I still think pkk will try to connect west and east by connecting land south of al-Bab, thus becoming buffer between assad and fsa.

I seriously think you have a screw loose.

2 fronts against isis and ypg might get troublesome for the fsa. I won't be surprised if our army will play a bigger role if the fsa truly gets bogged down and can't capture al-bab.