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Erdogan has his own private jet, but he deliberately took a civilian plane 'THY8456' (THY = Turk Hava Yollari - Turkish Airlines), as you can see in the pictures, to Istanbul from Marmaris to confuse the putschists flying F-16. The thing is, how did Stratfor know he took a civilian plane and...

Well, you can always keep dreaming of course, it's free after all. Let's say we believe these figures from the economist (i don't like this magazine, but anyway). According to these figures Turkey, country with almost 80 million population, has less isis members than France and same amount with...

Yes, press the 'pic.twitter.com/...' links to see the trackings: Someone uploaded this image as response to their tweet haha. And a bonus for the extra laughs:

Sorry guys, not gonna happen. AKP does have a religious tone to it, but Turkey's constitution won't be changed. The AKP has never proposed such a thing, and if they really try one day, then i won't be surprised if AKP loses votes. Erdogan is a charismatic politician that uses religion now and...

1) Why can't Baghdadi be found and eliminated despite having the intelligence services of the world's mightiest powers after him and his organization for quite a long time? Or *drum rolls* is it possible that Baghdadi will break OBL's, former hide and seek world champion, record of hiding? I...

The AKP was threatened by a coup by the army back in 2007. The infiltrated Gulenists in the army, judiciary etc. arrested and locked up those secular generals through two trials; Ergenekon and Balyoz. Thus far the AKP and Gulenists overcame a coup and that's where the alliance had come to an...

Can't believe it... I saw your interview on TV and now I remember your old profile picture on this forum. Incredible what you did that night and that you are also member here. Helal olsun kardesim, seninle gurur duyuyorum.

Shouldn't Stratfor be boycotted for what they did (releasing the plane coordinations of Erdogan when he was flying from Marmaris to Istanbul, thus helping putschists) during the 'coup' attempt? To hell with such an organization and what they got to say.

I completely forgot to mention that Graham Fuller, a former CIA member and supporter of Gulen (also he supported his green card for staying in the US), entered Turkey in the morning of 15th July, the day of the 'coup', and left a few days later. Coincidence? Furthermore, Ex-Gulenist members...

It's not that they want to push Turkey away, it's that they want to replace the current govt with a puppet that doesn't have a foreign policy, does not stand up against them, does not bother them, does not become ambitious, just behaves like a shield for NATO (and Israel) and such. I am...

indeed, there is no hard evidence and of course no US politician or CIA is gonna say 'we did it'. However, when we look at the developments, probably most of which you are not aware of due to lack of objective coverage in the western mainstream media, and connect the dots, then there is a good...

yes, you're right. My bad for jumping too quickly for the gun, i was annoyed (not because of you) at that time. I will delete my message as i feel it's out of place and inappropriate in hindsight.

that won't be a 100% solution, just like how pkk rats find ways to illegally cross borders into Iraq. Nonetheless, as much as possible should be done to eradicate these retards.

Connect the dots. It's hypocritical to ask for hard facts when it comes to Turkey, but when it comes to Western politicians and media, they are not shy to blame Turkey with supporting/founding isis or saying that Turkey is turning away from secularism without any hard evidence. However, when it...

See at least post 10 and 11 of this thread. Thinking that the US has never had involvement in 'regime changes' is really naive. What solidifying are you talking about? the AKP (incl. Erdogan) has been elected constantly since 2002 or so, the party's popularity is massive and unseen before in...

No, the point is that Gulenist cult members have infiltrated almost every segment of the society and state throughout the last 4 decades. There is even a very old video of Gulen instructing his men to stay silent and hide themselves until the time is ripe for a takeover of the institutes...

Lots of BS as usual. First of all, the ones that did the 'coup' are not secularists nor fan of secularism and the army was officially not involved in the 'coup'. The 'coup' was done by infiltrated Gulenists in the army who are loyal to Gulen ideological religious sect first, not the state...

That's an interesting analysis, and quite an accurate one. However, where I don't agree with, is that the West is only important for Turkey right now due to the lack of alternatives. Once the rest of the world catches up, Turks will gladly and quickly diversify trade, projects, pacts etc. with...

And how are you so sure the CIA is not involved in such things? :rolleyes1: The hypocrisy of the US is well known. From supporting and making the Mujahideen in Afghanistan the good guys vs the Soviets and then declaring them terrorists later, from organizing coup in Iran against Mossadegh...

Also, Russia closed Gulen schools years ago once they found out that CIA personnel were active at their schools. The US and Gulenists are working hand in hand to infiltrate in Turkey and other countries. As for Turkey, Gulenists were trying to infiltrate in every department of the govt and...