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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1980_Turkish_coup_d%27%C3%A9tat The aftermath of that coup in 1980 was waaaaay worse, but that didnt matter since that one was successful and benefitted the US, right? Of course those Gulenist cult parasites must be rooted out. No state on earth deserves such...

Turkey may not be at the same level yet regarding human rights, but 'democracy, free press, no dictator' are BS. Keep repeating to make yourself feel good. Death penalty? What's it to you anyway? If there will be a referandum about it or the parliament votes in favor, then you will have to...

It's all about their own interest, nothing more. You can be democratic, but if you are not working for their interests... prepare for invasions that bring democracy, freedom and liberation. Prepare for media smear campaigns, political pressure whatever. We know their games in Turkey, Middle east...

What is it that bothers them so much? What is it that they can't get from us? What is it that Turkey doesn't want to give to them? :coffee: If you ask me, they must be feeling MAD about the fact that the Turkey of now is not the same silent, yes nodding, easy to please, obedient Turkey of the...

I just love it when foreigners say 'dictator this, dictator that'. Yet when it comes to giving clear examples of him being a dictator, they fail miserably by mentioning accusations and typical rants that the western propaganda media likes to pull out of its ***. That our own anti-akp fellow...

Anti-Turkey propaganda from Western mainstream media has increased to new levels since some years ago, but the 15 July 'coup' attempt and the indiference of the US and EU, even blaming the Turkish govt and siding with Gulen, and support for Gulenists from US and EU politicians and media have...

This being a coup by Erdogan to do a personal purge is just as believable as saying that 9/11 is not an inside job. murica won't give up its puppet Gulen, but in return it has lost the Turkish society and anti-muricanism & anti-EU, which was already high, will even increase among the pro-western...

I really hope you will heal soon and i'm glad to see that your arm's status is stable, but i wonder how this happened to your arm. It looks like your skin got stuck to the tank while it moved and that way it ripped your skin open?

Hic olmadi iste bu. Boylece normal Kurtleri de soguyon ve sende boluculuk yapiyorsun, yani pkk'nin ekmegine yag surmus oluyorsun. Her Kurt kotu degildir, bunu anlamak neden zor ki?

Interesting how the old man in the first picture is using a walky talky, as if he is determining the co-ordinations (maybe he is?). Talk about adapting news technologies :D

Yildirim has said that we shouldn't be surprised if there will be serious developments regarding Syria within 6 months. Now I'm really curious what has been spoken with Putin. Any idea what?

what about her reference to the 15th (coincidentally day of the 'coup') in the last part of the video? was there something critical related to the MHP on the 15th in the past? I don't want to accuse people of being Gulenists without evidence, also because of what is going on in MHP and Bahceli's...

Let's use common sense; The Akp (incl. Erdogan) has been elected constantly since 2002. Support for the Akp is massive and unseen before in Turkish political history. You can go check up the election results. Erdogan would not need a thing like this to grab power, he'd have had plenty of time...

They probably do that with the thought of asking asylum first. Once they are granted asylum, they bring over the family as well. Going to the EU with the whole family first while nothing about asylum is certain yet might be too costly and risky. Anyway.

No. How can refugees, excluding the elders, children, women and ill, be respectable citizens of our country while they ran away from their own country? Seriously, seeing able male refugees in Turkey and European countries makes me wonder how they can be loyal citizens of these countries if they...

Gulencileri ve onlarin etkilerini unutmamak lazim. Gulen ulkemizin aleyhine bir mektup yazip Amerika'daki senatorlar tarafindan imzalatabilmisse gerisini biz dusunelim. Bunlar resmen batiyla ulkemize karsi el ele girmistir, hersey beklenir bunlardan.

How can you trust that everything will be fine? How do you know 'we' can convert them into good and honest citizens? Let's say 3m refugees decide to stay in Eastern Anatolia, how will you know they won't cause problem in the long run? Apart from the children, women, elders, ill people, how can...

But at the same time if you're not prepared to die for your country, then there might not even be a country anymore for your next generations. However, you also have a good point.

Hmm? What after the 15th? (That tone though) Coincidence? And what of her over the top confidence? as if she was so certain of something. By the way, anyone seen her condemning the 'coup'? She's suspiciously silent lately. Smells like she had/has links with Gulenists.

See my last and Sinan's post.