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  1. Gundala

    Indonesia Defence Forum

    Not really but close enough. You know Im pretty sure couple of guys in here knows alot more then what they say. But to reveal it thats another thing (secrecy, law, politic, etc). What they can do is giving us hints, and sometime those "hints" are out there in the open source. And dont get...
  2. Gundala

    Indonesia Defence Forum

    Answer me this, the first block aim is to make RCS somewhere between 0.1-1.0 sqm. It will need composite material that absorb radar. Are we going to get it (the technology)? Its consider airframe technology for stealth fighter. No, the reason is we dream too high, we dont do the reality check...
  3. Gundala

    Indonesia Defence Forum

    No stealth technology has been given to Indonesia, not even Korea. Also, US rep often come to Korea to make sure no technology would be leaked to Indonesia. That stealth/Low observable radar design mostly come from US (Airframe wise) and thats the not being given as well.
  4. Gundala

    Indonesia Defence Forum

    We are starting to grow good perception towards each other. This below news if it can be materialized will be a good project for both sides. https://thediplomat.com/2018/07/india-makes-moves-at-indonesias-strategic-sabang-port/ Better not feed the troll bruh
  5. Gundala

    Indonesia Defence Forum

    Simple, as for now we dont have budget for it. If SU35 budget is move to EF purchase then it wont be much of an issue, but whether its going to be upgraded to tranche 2 thats another question. The way I see Rafale plan was to drop F16/SU35 and make a huge investment on 48 Rafale that will secure...
  6. Gundala

    Indonesia Defence Forum

    I second this. We need to decide if we are still in or not so TNI AU/Kemenhan can create a good plan ahead, I personally dont care anymore if we going stay in or out. But if we decided to pay then by all means pay debt, and If we decided to pull out then do the damage control plan. All those...
  7. Gundala

    Indonesia Defence Forum

    I think you dont get what Im trying to say, and balance of power is not a strategy.
  8. Gundala

    Indonesia Defence Forum

    Nothing is certain, but Im pretty sure SU35 is out of the equation already. As for the cnbcindonesia news; thats one of the open source I think related to the F35. Again its a political game locally and internationally, but if we compare to the EF news this one dont mention what type of...
  9. Gundala

    Indonesia Defence Forum

    Well, if you look at the comments from the parliament you have to know which party it came from. So far (from open source) members from Nasdem and PDIP have made statement disagreeing with this project. Golkar seems to be ok with it. This is where/how they political system works sometime...
  10. Gundala

    Indonesia Defence Forum

    Well he has some recorded track as being lose canon in the past. And looking at the Indonesian alutsista purchase history there were/are also some "weird" assets acquisition that is/was not "approved" by the designated matra. So yeah, Cornie has a good reason to question it. Its nothing personal.
  11. Gundala

    Indonesia Defence Forum

    I understand your point. But introducing new fighter platform and not intended to add some more in a future really make this Typhoon more expensive to maintain. And how long does it take to upgrade to tranch 2 for all 15 of them? 1-2 years? And how long does it take for Pilot and technicians to...
  12. Gundala

    Indonesia Defence Forum

    Masuk akal kalo ide dari mrka, yg menarik adlh "konsltan Jrman". This leak seems deliberate to be honest and support my suspicion that this news is testing the water kinda news to see the reaction from global players and local. "A German consultant informed Prabowo" "In the letter, a copy of...
  13. Gundala

    Indonesia Defence Forum

    Airbus would have to vote on sale However, it is not so easy to sell the Austrian Eurofighter to another country. According to the contract, Austria cannot sell directly, and without Airbus / EADS approval, nothing is possible, the military aviation expert Georg Mader told APA. However, Airbus...
  14. Gundala

    Indonesia Defence Forum

    OMG that AMX, and those majalah angkasa old picture is awesome. Talking about blast from the past, when we F16/Tornado/Mirage were competing which one did you prefer backthen? I had my eyes on Mirage 2000 :yahoo:
  15. Gundala

    Indonesia Defence Forum

    From the way I see it the air force want double engine fighter, if we put price/life cycle cost aside. This also true when KFX first intention was to put single engine, we rejected it cuz we said we need double engine. So strategically double engine fighter is in their posture plan. SU35 being a...
  16. Gundala

    Indonesia Defence Forum

    Aside from whether this news is true or just "testing the water" kinda news I am wondering (for discussion purposes) if any of you have some informations on how much its going to cost upgrading this from tranche 1 to tranche 2 or even tranche 3? I try to google it but couldnt find any...
  17. Gundala

    Indonesia Defence Forum

    YES!! This is what Im talking about. All those mumbo jumbo saying by the govt official about wanting to be independent in military industry but ordering peanuts to our military industry didnt quiet match. If you talk the talk you better walk the walk. This bulk order itself is bankable, now lets...
  18. Gundala

    Indonesia Defence Forum

    This is good. He shoulda done it in his first presidency terms. Geezz just make up our mind already :lol::lol:. At this point I think we should just pick Viper over SU35, A330 over KC 46 (KC still have some issues) and platform for AEW. I know all these strategic purchases needs carefull study...
  19. Gundala

    Indonesia Defence Forum

    I like the list already well aside for amfibi. But if our govt willing to carry the R&D cost for it then PT.DI can just produce it and not putting too much pressure on ROI. Social study research? man we shoulda do it long time ago, better late than never. Overall these list is "membumi", the...
  20. Gundala

    Indonesia Defence Forum

    Hmm thats interesting. The additional changbogo is suspended, and now this? Nothing is coincidence when couple of large project having "trouble". The defense cooperation with sokor has been my interest in the last couple of years due to multiple large project we had with them starting to...
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