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Folks - I have been thinking about MMRCA competition for the past couple of days and pondering on why it went the way it did. This is all retrospectively ofcourse ! It is my belief now that IAF always wanted Rafale and no other aircraft - and you could actually see this coming.. 1St Point )...

Side arrays in Rafale ?? Is that planned in future - never heard about it till now. I thought that is very specific to T50...

Holy @#$@# ...When did this happen ? Canopy blew off ? In the flight trials !!!! That is so - MiG i guess..Any more details ?

I believe EMB145 is used for AWECS and not for AWACS. Its IL 78 for our AWACS (Phalcon). If we are going with our own AWACS then it needs to be a bigger plane !

Win means - based on the evaluation and performance criteria - Rafale was always ahead of EF. In the end - due to geo political reasons it always faced the boot.

Abu - WindJammer did not make any point. His point was what we call bookish logic . To the say the least "If Rafale is equal to 2 * JF 17 - then PAF will buy 2 JF17's for every Rafale that India buys" ..Sorry - it just doesnt work that away. I am pasting the reply to him. You can judge. "WJ -...

Serves right ! 13th century attitudes doesnt work. Law of the land is supreme - everything else follows after that .

:) Amen to That !!!

Accchhhh Thhhooooo....Why the fetish with Japanese manga ? I prefer all black if there is color scheme..But in the end we will be seeing these fighters in Tipnis Grey..[COLOR="Silver"] ---------- Post added at 02:10 PM ---------- Previous post was at 02:09 PM ----------

What are they upto ?

Naa yaar - I have had huge conversations with French posters themselves. Pretty much everyone believes there is nothing called active noice cancellation system - it is just a EW system - maybe a good one at that. You can also take Sancho's inputs. Gambit had an awesome post reasoning out why...

Sancho - Amen to that !! I just hope that we get lots of benefit from France for our own LCA. We will be needing every ounce of it. Also hope that Kaveri fructifies !! It will be interesting to see if there is any MKI'zation of Rafale. Especially in terms of integrating our own homegrown...

Kinectic - Active radar cancellation system is a myth and not a reality. Spectra is just hyped up EW suite and nothing else. I am all for Katrina !!!!!

French charged in excess of $2B dollars including armament. And Ohh its a very expensive deal when you compare it to Russians..Not that i have any problem, but if this was there strategy then it has worked wonders ! ---------- Post added at 12:03 PM ---------- Previous post was at 12:01 PM...

WJ - one problem in that thought process . Taking your example above. Assuming price of 1 Rafale = Price of 4 JF17's. IAF is/will spend $20B on this acquisition. Will PAF spend $20B to acquire 4*JF17 - to match up with Rafale numbers ? If PAF has that kind of money then why wont they end up...

OK Seriously -- How many Guesses that French charged a huge amount of money for upgrades of Mirage so that they can lower Rafale's price per unit !! Suddenly French stubborness makes sense !!! What's your opinion ? Either way - its bliss !! French Beauties !!

Its official - Livefist has reported it..MoD has issued letter of intent to Dassault. So i guess its no longer rumours !

Finally Finally - Its Rafale ..the French beauty.....is this official ?

Guess that means no MMRCA news for 4 days...darn its taking long !

Has NK built a 5000KM version of nodong ? If not, then i doubt if your tipu will materialize !! unless ofcourse your all weather friend steps in with a DF series.