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When this happend ?? From old Control line Cease Fire violations or happend recently ??

Well it takes 2 to tango, Corrupt politicians & we as Nation as well are also responsible. Have a lot to say but will derail the thread. We all share your thoughts. Wish best for our boys & I pray somehow they get means for new procurement.

Poverty...., has forced has to make our boys fly these birds (not saying new aircrafts cannot crash). Glad to know pilot is safe.

Why would KT quote a random Twitter account ?? What's the credibility of Twitter guy? https://www.khaleejtimes.com/world/pakistan/photos-pakistans-ex-dg-ispr-asif-ghafoor-meets-with-accident

Well, a lot of us would including me. May the next best man lead our boys. He sure is an able officer among many, if he commands a core & be a Lt General, & his name pops up in the list that is sent to PM, who knows?? :-)

Well well, lets wait then, but wish all this was a hoax/click bait , would love it rather real & if it is then Prayers for all in the accident that they are safe.

source brother? inside or media?

Trying to confirm the news, not on E-Media at the moment, Allah keep our men in uniform safe. @StormBreaker how authentic is this Facebook page?? Is it confirm no causalities?

What was that, oh yeah " Bitches of d Richies "

Well put, we should just tak the 1st Step even it is like simple dual citizenship ( of course after having all the check & balance clauses as advised by brothers here like @StormBreaker & others ) & let it go , even Sky ain't the limit.

Such a gem our girls n guys, I hope we don't have them sacrificed for nothing & just because of old planes. Prayers for you Sister & others like you. :pakistan:

Well, UK, Australia, Canada are also in NATO, Maybe , not a great number of people doing business and immigrating to Turkey from Pakistan was the reason before? Seems you are correct, still it is welcomed. Should have been done long ago.

Yes it is a big IF, agreed. And YES, you just summarized what I was feeling lethargic to write.

& may I add, a very Special One .. .

More than you can even dream of, By the way, Reported

If it really is what you said it is , even If it takes a Decade to reach that point , then boy oh boy ... :pakistan: @mods ( we need a Turk Flag emo here as well ) If it is not, still welcome it, a good step. It is written on the wall for those who can read, the Destiny of these two countries...

Inna lillahi wa inna ilayhi raji'un We are in your debt brothers, just like many before you, Till we meet on D Day , RIP

Yes, on our part , Banking System in Pakistan should be made Up to par with Global standard and a Nod from US will surely bring PayPal to Pakistan. Just check out the list of countries PayPal is operating in and one wonders why the good lord we are deprived off it.

1) A good step 2) Get out of FATF Grey List 3) Digital Pakistan campaign should work hard to gat PAYPAL in Pakistan.

Brother me in Pakistan, Hope Turkish brothers are all safe, @Hakikat ve Hikmet & others do update. Rest in Peace to the fallen brothers, hope damage is not on a larger scale.