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    Pakistan Air Force Transport

    Dear Sir, On the risk of sounding biased, it is a tremendous achievement. If anyone has any industrial experience, he will understand that its not simply feeding a CAD/CAM file into a CNC (computer numerical controlled) machine to fabricate an an industrial article. It needs a lot of raw...
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    Turkey shows interest in JF-17 Thunder

    You are correct, Turkey will most probably not buy JF17, and even if it tries to, west will not allow it. One political reason might be that Turkey is an F16 producing nation, and also a technology partner in F35. If it buys JF17, it will mean a lot of presence of Chinese personnel in Turkey...
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    Turkey shows interest in JF-17 Thunder

    I love this new designation, Mig21 of 21st century. Mig21 is the one of the largest produced and exported jet fighter flying today. More than two dozen nations still operate it, including Pakistan, India, China and lots and lots of Asian, Middle eastern and African countries. If China/Pakistan...
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    AMRAAM BVR Missiles Delivered to Pakistan

    Can someone shed light on the differences between AIM120C-5 and AIM120C-7 variant. Regards, Sapper
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    PAF participates in "Red Flag" and "Green Flag"

    I believe it lies under COIN and CAS depending on the mission. If F16 is loitering and waiting for targets to appear, its COIN, otherwise if troops have already engaged the enemy and plan the mission up-front before aircraft takes off for target, its CAS. It would have fallen into Interdiction...
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    PAF participates in "Red Flag" and "Green Flag"

    Dear, I am certain that our current configuration of F-16 A/B Block 15 do not have link 16 built into them, so they will not be able to communicate with US AWACS either. It would have been better if PAF held off till next year, and participated with its F16 Bl52's. Regards, Sapper
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    Pakistan wants combat copters

    Dear, Sorry for confusing your Ack-Acks with AKs , since i have never experienced this Army slang in written form before ... Please accept my apologies. My sources tell me the same, that there are no evidence of guided Manpads in Fata, and RPGs are useless in targeting a moving air target at...
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    US F-16's to Pak come with a 'no use against India in future' rider

    Dear, I don't think US will ever put in Kill-Switches in FMS equipment. Think over this carefully and you will understand that Pakistan might lose a lot in that scenario, but US will turn out to be the biggest loser since the biggest export products of USA has been its military equipment for...
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    Pakistan wants combat copters

    Dear, A little correction is due here, so please don't mind. Taliban's have a huge number of anti aircraft (low level flight only) gun of 14.7mm and 12.7mm caliber of Soviet, Local Dara, and allegedly Indian origins. Ammo for them is no problem since local made bullets/shells are easily...
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    Pakistan F-16 Discussions 2

    Dear, Please ... You are using my name while replying to Santro. Please take care next time. Again, If you have anything to "prove" your point i.e. Indian EUMA for P8-I, INS Jalashwa (USS Trenton), C130 etc, please send us the link. Also, please keep in mind that the EUMA for Pakistani...
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    Pakistan F-16 Discussions 2

    Dear, It would have really helped if you had sent links for the source of your mentioned points. I have already sent 3 links to support my claim. If you have a source for complete EUM document for any of India's recent acquisition from US, it will really help. Regards, Sapper
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    Pakistan F-16 Discussions 2

    Dear, I beg to differ. The EUM restrictions on INS Jalashwa have made many in India quite furious with its acquisition. The EUM states that it cannot be used for offensive purposes. Its an amphibious attack ship for God's sake. For further reference, read this...
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    Pakistan's F-16s under strict US supervision

    Dear, These restrictions are called End Use Monitoring (EUM/EUMA) provisions, for which US arms deals are infamous. We have many of our Maritime and Airborne fleet already using the same EUMs as the F16s we are getting now. Many ships of our Navy fleet, P3Cs, Harpoons, F16s, C130s and AH-1...
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    Pakistan F-16 Discussions 2

    Dear, These restrictions are called End Use Monitoring (EUM/EUMA) provisions, for which US arms deals are infamous. We have many of our Maritime and Airborne fleet already using the same EUMs as the F16s we are getting now. Many ships of our Navy fleet, P3Cs, Harpoons, F16s, C130s and AH-1...
  15. Sapper

    Pakistan's Airborne Early Warning and Control Aircrafts

    Dear Santro, You are correct ... PAF has inducted two different AEW&C systems, but in both of them, you'll find out that there is emphasis on "AEW" and not "C". PAF does not hold a deep strike doctrine, rather than strong defensive and swift/decisive low penetration strike capability. All of...
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    Why no Pakistani helicopter manufacturing/assembling program?

    Dear, An intel based machine, with an Debain based distribution is hardly a result of genuine R&D. You want to know what R&D is, read about the history of GNU and Richard-Stallmans and his team, who took 15 years just to re-code the Unix packages already available for Unix, and the work...
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    Why no Pakistani helicopter manufacturing/assembling program?

    Thanks dear, Whats the make/origin of the computer and its OS you are using ?? That should help answer your question. Regards, Sapper
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    Why no Pakistani helicopter manufacturing/assembling program?

    Dear, Capability and Financial Viability are two different things. Pakistan CAN make a heli ... we choose not to because the R&D will not be financially viable. Example 1: India has a HUGE economy, then why is India not making its own Aircraft Carrier and instead buying/leasing it from...
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    Why no Pakistani helicopter manufacturing/assembling program?

    Dear, Pakistan operates a very small Chopper Fleet, with ~40 Attack (AH-1 Cobra) , 60~80 Medium Transport (Mi17,Bell412,Puma), 20~30 Small Transport (Aluette/Lama,Fennec), and ~20 Marine. This small requirement does not warrant an economically viable Helicopter development program, since you...
  20. Sapper

    FC-1 (JF-17) powered by WS-13 engine carries Taxi Trials

    Dear, Thats why i said earlier that I don't want to prolong this unnecessary conversation. When did i say that RD93 is not derived from RD-33, it is. RD-33 was a very shitty engine when it came out ... and there are lots of websites to confirm this. Its proposed MTBO was of 300 hrs, while...
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