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the only comment to you is to read my post carefully ... nothing more ... it has all the answers to question arising in your mind

The existence of ManPads is extremely doubtful, as no reports of any captured manpads or any launch of manpads at any heli has surfuced. TTP usually try to target Pak Army's helis using RPGs and small and medium AA guns, usually of 12.7mm calibre.

roger ... good point ... but let the FC-20 roll out first. I disagree with your notion that China is delaying the product because they didn't want to sell us J10 ... wrong ... PAF rejected the J10, they wanted FC-20, with AESA/PESA, better engine, IRST and ECM, which were somewhat missing in...

Why is that ?? i wonder ... Is that because its made in china rather than made in UK or USA or Europe ? Until someone gets definitive performance parameters of FC-20, no one can say that ... Typhoon and FC-20 are somewhat of the same category, its not like we are comparing FC-20 with...

OMG, now i get your point ... you want to get Rafales instead of FC20s ... sorry for the mis-understanding. With due apologies dear ... this notion is even worse ... Giving all of our front line defense capabilities in the hands of USA+West ... waiting to be shut off by one crack-head move...

Dear, FC-1 and FC-20 will be "lifeline" of Pakistani defense in the literal sense, and presenting that lifeline to a "VERY close friend my GREATEST enemy" on a hunch or gut feeling is not my idea good economic deal. The past (and present) record of Iran is very bad ... they "presented" our...

Dear, IAF pilots visit Iran more often than you think. The best advantage of FC-1 and FC-20 is that their performance envelop is unknown. This is an advantage we should not lose without any good reason.

Dear the question is very simple ... cannot be put in a more simpler way ... why are you afraid to answer it. Question: We have only enough money to induct either 1. Rafale/(comparable 4.5 Gen from another country), or 2. JXX/(comparable 5th Gen from another country) what shall it be...

I think giving Iran our thunders and loaning India our thunders for evaluation is "one and the same thing". I am not comfortable with the idea that our ONLY enemy should be allowed access to our main-stream fighter for next 2~3 dacades. If however, Iran breaks its ties with India, for good...

A few more Cobra's and Bell412's could be a nice addition

I think we should take this seriously ... he talking from experience ... DRDO's experience of kaveri is a bit too dramatic to ignore.

brother ... in simplest words .. what i am about to say is very easy to comprehend. we have two options Go for Rafale or another 4.5 gen platform .... Go for Jxx or another 5th Gen platform we only have money for 1 ... so pick one (dont "if" and "but" around) ... choice is all yours.

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dear ... feed me some facts ... i know you dont believe me but i am 100% comitted to find credible evidence and establish the traitor's identity in my mind. But if you dont havee any facts ... than say that you have heard another rumor and admit it as well. I am on your side ... i just need...

F14 is a failed platform, Even US wanted out ... why would Pakistan want a failed A2A platform, which has trouble flying at even 30,000 feet.

Even if Pakistan orgered Rafale TODAY, it will take atleast 5~8 years before even a single plane makes its way to Pakistan ... do remember that France's own order for Rafale is not even close to completion, meanwhile Rafale is still undergoing Radar and weapon systems integration. Rafale has...

Dear ... 1. F16 upgrades will likely mature around 2015. 2. FC-20 induction will START in 2014/15 and will take almost 3~4 years to complete, which will be around 2018~2020. 3. Completion of induction of Last block of JF-17 will occur around 2020. Only after that will PAF have any spare...

I would like to bring another view point in this debate. I don't know if everyone here knows this or not, but PAF has a serious deficiency of fighter pilots. I would prefer if the risky airframes of F-7s are retired, and rest converted to FT-7s if possible. This will allow a larger number of...

I think FT-7 will remain as primary advanced trainer for PAF. Also the new F7PGs still have lots of hours left so they can keep going on for another decade or so. Rest will be out as soon as JF-17s are in good enough numbers.

The best thing to do is to save money for now ... and continue to build on the projects we are already working on. 1. FC-1 2. F16 3. FC-20 and use the saved money to upgrade directly to 5th Gen Tech as soon as it is available. 4. J-XX