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    Pakistan F-16 Discussions 2

    Hi, I can see that some F16s have slightly golden-ish canopies while the others have crystal clear canopies. Can someone tell me whats the difference ? Regards, Sapper
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    China to supply FC-1/JF-17 fighters to Azerbaijan

    Dear, Pakistan has produced some F16 spares domestically, though it is not widely known knowledge, and i would not go into details as it comes directly from some of my close family members. In 90's when we were denied spares and replacement parts for F16s, few organizations which currently...
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    The logic behind JF-17s ?

    Dear, India is 5 times bigger and has probably 20 times more money than Pakistan, We cannot match them 1~1, we never had, probably never will. Grow up, try watching world through realistic eyes ... we have money for 36, if we had money enough for 360 we would have ordered 360. Regards, Sapper
  4. Sapper

    The logic behind JF-17s ?

    Dear, India is 5 times bigger and has probably 20 times more money than Pakistan, We cannot match them 1~1, we never had, probably never will. Grow up, try watching world through realistic eyes ... we have money for 36, if we had money enough for 360 we would have ordered 360. Regards, Sapper
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    Turkish air chief visits PAF headquarters

    Soon, Turks will be given the NATO command over Afghanistan, and thus all the Nato troops including US troops will be under Turkish command. These visits and briefings are to take Turkish high command into confidence so that Turks can safeguard Pakistani Interests as well as securing and...
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    China to supply FC-1/JF-17 fighters to Azerbaijan

    I have a Sony notebook, VGN-AW235J/B to be exact. It has 1. Intell motherboard & processor (third party) 2. 2 x Hitachi HDDs (third party) 3. Nvidia graphics card (third party) 4. Sony display (made in Japan) 5. Sony battery (made in China) 6. Sony body and metal work (made in China)...
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    first mock dogfights for F-22, Typhoon, Rafale Pakistan Participated

    The only thing missing from this is Su30s and Su35s from russia and J10s from China. If it was ever possible, it will combine the best aircrafts from ALL-OVER the world in a single exercise. Regards, Sapper
  8. Sapper

    JF-17: a major achievement

    Dear Gambit, Your insight is always very informative and precise, but in this case i think you misunderstood the point raise by BATMAN. We are not talking about modularity in maintenance and ease of weapons loading etc ... instead we are talking about the decoupling of aircraft design with...
  9. Sapper

    Notify PAF Aircraft Crashes

    Human error will always remain a part of equation, no matter how much training the human being goes through. Humans are inherently flawed ... training only limits the numbers but it can not reduce it to zero. I praise the combat training of IAF pilots who have only lost a single aircraft...
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    JF-17 Thunder Multirole Fighter [Thread 3]

    Excellent post ... but you missed a point. I don't know whether the motivation behind this was prospects of foreign export or domestic need, or both, but the fact is that JF-17 has been completely decoupled with radar and ammunition requirements. Its seems that the experience with modernizing...
  11. Sapper

    JF-17 Thunder Multirole Fighter [Thread 3]

    Whenever China delivers JF17s to Pakistan, they are not in "fly-away" condition, rather in knocked down condition where it still required some assembly of wings, tails etc etc. I actually saw a picture of JF17s being unloaded from a cargo aircraft, thats why i believe that even if China has...
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    Pakistan's Airborne Early Warning and Control Aircrafts

    Dear, we are already have shifted our focus ... We have chosen FC1 + FC20 as future work horse of airforce, selected Chinese AWACS for induction, and preffered to inducted chinese Copters for Sea operation, inducted radars from non-US manufactureres, inducted SAMs from many many countries etc...
  13. Sapper

    Pakistan F-16 Discussions 2

    or accidently jettisoned ;) ... just like the way a student of Sir Murad jettisoned fuel tanks of Mirage in hanger :)
  14. Sapper

    JF-17 Thunder Multirole Fighter [Thread 3]

    I am curious ... why would CATIC require Su35 ... CATIC is weapons manufacturer, not user. PLAAF may be interested in Su35 (which is indeed an incredible fighter), but saying that CATIC is interested is beyond my understanding. Analogy ... Its like saying that Boeing (Boeing makes F18s)...
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    JF-17 Thunder Multirole Fighter [Thread 3]

    I think the current count should be 16, as China delivered 5 more JF-17s prior to the roll-out ceremony on 23rd.
  16. Sapper

    Thank you China

    Dear, why are you belittling our accomplishment ... mark my words ... "Everything is NOT a competition" ... a baby trying to learn how to walk is not told that 6 billion other people on this world have already mastered the art, why the heck you can't ... he is told that once you learn to walk...
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    first mock dogfights for F-22, Typhoon, Rafale Pakistan Participated

    I am not saying that they are exporting tomorrow ... but they have changed their status from "Will not export to anyone" to "Wait, let us think it through".
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    first mock dogfights for F-22, Typhoon, Rafale Pakistan Participated

    A bill to allow F22 has already been drafted, whether it is accepted or rejected is not finalized yet. I am quoting the following from another forum ... <QUOTE> SECTION-1250: REPORT ON POTENTIAL FOREIGN MILITARY SALES OF THE F–22A FIGHTER AIRCRAFT (A) REPORT REQUIRED: Not later...
  19. Sapper

    JF-17: a major achievement

    I agree ... India is far ahead of Pakistan in Aircraft hardware manufacturing, but it does not mean that we are not able to do the same. The main bottle neck is financing, which not only hinders Pakistan but also India, China, Europe and even USA (F22 is an example). With our economy in ruin, we...
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