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The amount of time you're popping up in every thread --- you're definitely not a cultist for the establishment. Sir --- The LAW cannot save you. Your ARMY cannot save you. Legal technicalities. Matters of interpretations. These are where ethics and dreams go to die. When a deep state...

It's up to him to confront the snakes within the army directly, ask the army loyal to Pakistan for support, and defend those being raiding/harassed/picked up --- or engage in the same vague, abstract argumentation with no name calling that doesn't inspire.

LOL, fanboys here lecturing real patriots on 5th gen warfare when the Army itself has miserably failed at containing it. Just look at the deterrence deficit with India (especially in terms of proxy warfare) swinging convincingly in India's favor.

Institution tolerating him and following orders against the interests of the state that are eroding the people's trust in the institution.

I'm no right-wing conservative maulvi, but this isn't even a matter of religion per se. It's a matter of common decency, respect, and --- quite frankly --- even taste. Who are their parents?!

Correct. But there's also a deeper reason, since it's not just the hardcore PTI people but casual or reluctant supporters (simply because we have tried the others with disastrous consequences already) who are driving the recent surge. You see, there is a fundamental difference. Imran Khan...

Classic Pakistani thinking exhibiting low signs of intellectual capacity and integrative complexity --- black and white, all or nothing, unaccountable deep state fauj or anarchy, zero sum games. I refuse to play them. I understand your position. Fortunately, nobody is asking for the...

Some say Bajwa and DG I didn't sign. Anyway, let's not derail this thread as we can discuss this in many other ones (though you make a good point!)

Way past that now. They are doubling down. Raiding homes and picking up patriots.

100000% Thank you. People who don't understand the precise institutional heritage of the Pakistan Army continue to be surprised. If anybody cared to look slightly deeper into history, as you clearly have, it would emerge that our Army was not borne out of a resistance movement (like the IDF in...

PTI link/tweet above for reporting any harassment by the "govt" / deep state. They are putting together a team/task force to formally get this sh*t exposed.

Please add all the cases together in the initial post of this sticky thread in list form, if it's not too much trouble. It would really help as newer cases of raids/abduction/terror are getting buried between dozens of other posts.

50 years mein control aur 50x bar jaey ga. Historic opportunity hai to shatter the deep state once and for all. We want a strong, professional, even more capable army --- but restricted solely to its defense duties only. Turks stood in front of tanks. Others have shattered decades of status...

Those liberal 'DiSsEnT' and 'DiGiTaL RiGhTs' people better cry as loud as they usually do.

That's why they aligned with Q and MQM?

Conclusion: kuch nahi ho sakta?

Understand agar kar bhi liya --- karna kya hai is unaccountable deep state ka?

Because the people have never stood up to them (behind an honest leader).

ALL HAIL DALIT! I hope, like me, were also against the extension --- which fanboys here were j*rking each other off to.

I'm really glad you're on this forum. I remember us discussing how no pillar of the state (deep or not) had any clue, or desire, to attract and retain talent. I have recently realized it's significantly more concerning: their entire definition of 'talent' and 'excellence' is mediocrity...