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Well u have shifted goalposts regularly, it is very obvious from the discussion. About the 1967 war, Israel was the underdog, yes, but it also had only a single contiguous piece of geography to defend, which it had practiced for over a decade. Also there was no Mukti behind their lines and...

Haha... that feeble shaming tactic has been in use for fifty years, whenever a debate about 71 ensues, Indians/their like minded ones try to do this, not anymore.😉 Vietnam and Afghanistan situations are complete opposite of East Pakistan situation. Defenders in both those wars were not cut off...

Okay members you vote, in donon k saath kya kiya jaaye?? 😁😉🤔

You may choose to keep running around in circles. Whatever details are available in Hamood report, the smuggling, the lechery, degeneracy, it has all been witnessed worldwide among bigger armies having fought greater wars. Nowhere they have been the prime reasons for defeat or victory. It always...

Stop shifting goalposts. A couple of posts ago, "lechery" was the make or break reason, now it is "one of the reasons". Make up your mind. You can't have the cake and eat it too. First you talk in absolute about shitty planning by Niazi, then you say history is written by the winners, however...

Wow, u really do not want to let go of the lechery argument. Well perhaps u may also write a book on Mongol ethics and discipline, I am sure it would be labelled 'historically accurate'.😉 But that somersault on Mongol order of doing lechery brings back a point. How did Japanese eventually...

Really....so it is now about the 'amount' of lechery, rather than its outright presence or absence, which dulls competence, or the 'number' of lecherous vs non lecherous commanders, who would make the difference. Ever heard of the Mongols??? Could even one of them be called a model...

I don't agree. Crimes against Biharis are relevant to this thread. Lack of mention of Mukti crimes is always one of the "Myths" of 71 war. It is done deliberately to keep the focus on Pakistan Army, and preserve the delusion that Pakistan lost because its Army sucked, end of story.

Yeah right.....it wasn't a fair fight, and you triumphed at a not so fair fight. Oh yes our 'Lady Luck'... When other nations loose, no less than a world war, it is because their commanders were 'unlucky', but in case of Pakistan it is because of the 'lecherous' ways of theirs. Rommel aka the...

Now Indians want to **** up ⚽, good going....😁

Thank you for recognizing that it was not a fair fight, if your people stop doing contrary propaganda too, than it would also be appreciated. Again u raise the subject of "war preparedness", or lack of it, which I have previously answered. Now, regarding the point of morality and questionable...

I wonder if Indians feel ashamed after reading the leaked Henderson Brooks report, or do they have enough courage to de-classify that ?? May be some hanging of heads in shame be in order after that... You are quoting Hamood report to create the delusional perception that somehow there was a way...

Bloody Spyder, Bloody Spyder, Bloody Spaa..........eheheh....booooom.... **End of transmission*** 😁🧐🎯

Haha... Indians' bones cracked by China, @The BrOkEn HeArT is all that's left....😁

Haha...Perhaps they also 'fought valiantly' against their own countrymen soon after, when they again looted and killed, this time to protect their emperor's throne. I am not sure I follow, u affected our war preparedness by blockading East Pakistan for months in advance, and actively subverting...

If that is relevant, then why razakars had to be recruited, must also be explained. Indians conveniently skip over the fact that they had effectively imposed an aerial blockade on East Pakistan, by staging the Ganga Incident. That incident has uncanny similarities with Uri, and Pulwana incidents...

Why not 7000, why did Supa dupa Indian Superhero Kumarman show mercy ?? 🧐🤔

Well, the obvious is on display here. Whatever goes against the propaganda of absolute gentleman victory, is just unfathomable for bhakts. They have deliberately always tried to present Pakistani forces as incompetent and coward to add more bells and whistles to their victory garland. However...

Na haddiyan juri hoyi theen, na he kisi ne haddiyan tori hain... 😁😄

Already have, loved it, especially the Frisbees chapter. That whole novel should be made into DCS enactments...