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  1. nufix

    Indonesia police hunt suspected militants after four killed

    Honestly, this the Standard answer I have always came across when discussing this topic. Pancasila consists of 5 principles and you take only one and claim that Wahabism fits to Pancasila? What about the rest like Persatuan Indonesia? and you want to make an EU style union but with Islam as...
  2. nufix

    Indonesia police hunt suspected militants after four killed

    Maybe, maybe not. But in a more sorry part of the world, people who adhere to the ideals described in Wahabism have certainly took actions like that.
  3. nufix

    Indonesia police hunt suspected militants after four killed

    I am an Indonesian citizen lol. Do you want to see my KTP as well? Ngegas banget om nanyanya. Selow keleus. You know, I have always wondered why you seem to never got angry when Indonesia got bashed in this forum. I think i have found the answer. Because Indonesia is maybe your second or third...
  4. nufix

    Indonesia police hunt suspected militants after four killed

    Which context is this? Islam as a rule of law, or Islam as a society? The notion of freedom of religion in Islam as in Jizya taxes? That is discrimination by today‘s standards. Freedom of religion like you just care about your community above else? Thats segregative by today’s standard.
  5. nufix

    Indonesia police hunt suspected militants after four killed

    The only difference I see is one is thinking about it and one is actually doing it. Cmon, the biggest issue with muslim world today is its silence. Rather than seeking to reform Islam to fit today‘s way of living, Islamists try to shift the blame to the other part thus making themselves a victim...
  6. nufix

    Protests flare in Papua as students demand independence referendum

    cost of machinery, bonds, transferring wealth? How do they exactly apply to Freeport? Do you have any referrence for these? Otherwise, all I can say is that all of your arguments are very assumption based. If we go by your logic, we can just open crime 101 book and apply any corporate fraud...
  7. nufix

    Indonesia police hunt suspected militants after four killed

    Lets if any of ulama and habaib will voice out condemnation. Damn these islamic fanatics. Hopefully, the police would also prosecute all members of their families and extended families. As long as the government still let a stream of wahabi preachers to roam freely from the middle east, we...
  8. nufix

    Protests flare in Papua as students demand independence referendum

    Yeap that’s what I have been saying. Perhaps to be precise Net Profits. What follow is EBITDA. Thats why I said dividends are normally calculated together with EBITDA after all costs have been paid. Regarding your scenario, that is indeed one possible way to cheat paying out dividends to...
  9. nufix

    Protests flare in Papua as students demand independence referendum

    Dude, since when dividends are counted together with cost of machinery or other operational and overhead costs? Lol. Dividend is paid out as part of EBITDA, that means operational And overhead costs are already excluded beforehand (hint: E stands for Earning = Revenue - COGS). Furthermore...
  10. nufix

    Protests flare in Papua as students demand independence referendum

    HBB? Yep he was an idiot alright Hey, surely there are ways to do that. But you dont know that for sure so your argument basically rests entirely on your subjective assumption. That would be something that I cannot entertain.
  11. nufix

    West Papua 'becoming a hunting ground' as Indonesian forces open fire on student protesters

    And Papua is in Indonesia. What are you trying to say here?
  12. nufix

    Indonesia to deploy navy force near South China Sea

    The fighting part no doubt, but you cant deny that the winning part is due to US and allied forces tying down the Japs elsewhere. The reason why China fought and largerly lost to Japan before US entry into the war was because Japan was able to pull its resources for its conquest in China. China...
  13. nufix

    West Papua 'becoming a hunting ground' as Indonesian forces open fire on student protesters

    know from A report. You are just bringing up reports from one side of two conflicting parties, it doesnt qualify as THE report. I am not sure what your aim is here, but to have a healthy discussion, you gotta bring reports from all possible sides to arrive at a conclusion
  14. nufix

    West Papua 'becoming a hunting ground' as Indonesian forces open fire on student protesters

    Protestors or rioters/looters? You need to be really specific when talking about this issue. There are more than just one occasion of protests, by your logic there would not be any papuans left if protesting is what got them shot. Try again. and you seem to confuse between democracy and self...
  15. nufix

    West Papua 'becoming a hunting ground' as Indonesian forces open fire on student protesters

    China has had hundreds of years trying to integrate minority ethnics regardless various measures. Give Indonesia a hundred years, this thing will go down the drain. and you keep using words like dictatorship etc. What part of Indonesian rule nowadays that represent dictatorship? I get it you...
  16. nufix

    Indonesia to deploy navy force near South China Sea

    It is not wise to mix up religious / racial sentiment with national sentiment just saying. Indonesia is not an islamic country after all and I know a Tionghoa TNI member who got angrier than average Indonesian regarding Natuna issue. Please don’t disrespect him ;) And no, Islamic brotherhood...
  17. nufix

    Protests flare in Papua as students demand independence referendum

    Australia did wash its hands after the US and EU started pressuring Indonesia over the ET case. Remember they bought a whole squadron of bomber to prepare an armed confrontation against Indonesia? That was how far they were prepared to go to. I can agree to this. We called it transmigrasi...
  18. nufix

    Protests flare in Papua as students demand independence referendum

    Well again, thats just another prove that Papua is better off under Indonesian rule. Papuans seem unable to navigate themselves in world diplomatic to their advantage so they got to choose between being an AU colony (your word) or being under Indonesian rule, the latter turns out to be a better...
  19. nufix

    Protests flare in Papua as students demand independence referendum

    "Rich With Ressources" is useless when there are no means to extract it. Again, see PNG's case. Funny that you mention Brunei. Granted their GDP per capita is not as high, but nominally speaking, Papua's provincial GDP is equal to that of Brunei...
  20. nufix

    Protests flare in Papua as students demand independence referendum

    Again, funny most countries that make a fuss about this are countries whose very existence is due to colonialism in a much harder context. And no matter how many facts are presented, you wouldnt accept that just to feel good about yourself. Well you gotta bring that to the PNGans. But are you...
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