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Did i call it or what? If PN can get its hands on CAMM-ER, it will be a game changer for them. A quad packable medium to long range SAM. The stated range is 45km+. With CAMM having been tested and been shown to be effective out to 60km despite a 25km+ stated range, I believe CAMM-ER would...

I would willingly sacrifice 10kms of range (60km vs 70km) for the ability to quad pack the missiles when you consider instead of 16 70km missiles you would have 64 60km missiles if you get CAMM. Infact the Royal Navy made the same calculation on the Daring class destroyers when the removed 12...

Italian defense chief was in Pakistan and held discussions with PN. Could CAMM or CAMM-ER have come up? Personally i think CAMM is the most ideal for PN. If they can get it, i would put the F-22P through a genesis upgrade of sorts with SMART S mk2 and get an 8-12 cell sylver A50 and quad pack...

The sky dragon 50 is likely too long and the tubes too wide for pedestal mounting on Ships like Damens. Same is probably true for replacing FM90 with them. Demensionally speaking, the appear at least 5m long. For the F-22P you either need a radical change (vls installation) or will need to field...

Witbout a doubt many of your speculation turn out to be true. That being said, i think it the ONLY way PN would be able to get swift ships is buy buying and paying upfront for the project and design rights. PN has not or chose not to get approval for RAM on Jinnah class. If they had gotten...

I wish someone could contact him and ask him to return. I always learned a lot from his posts. I think a loss of a member like him should give the mods pause and cause them to self reflect why we lose strong contributors while weaker contributors speak like rude insolent people when you dont...

Problem for Cheetah is that it only has a 6km range and is only a pdms. It cannot serve as the main SAM for F-22p. Umkhonto sure but Cheetah would be pdms at best

It will be interesting to see how significant the upgrades will be and whether it will be a minor upgrade or major with the addition of VSL. I think it would be entirely possible to replace the deck that FM90 sits on with a 16 cell vls (would likely come to the same height as the deck is now so...

I dont agree. The Damen are supposed to be long endurance security vessels. They will take the anti-piracy/anti-smuggling roles required by the navy and lend support and heavy firepower for PMSA when needed. But in times of war they will be outfitted with armaments capable of helping front line...

For ships like these, i wonder what route they will go to equip it with SAMs or will they only utilize CIWS? I think these ships are ideal for the Tor-m2km which would allow the temporary fitting of a vls based 16km range SAM designed to take out CMs. The system brings 8-16 sams and can be...

As i have said before, had their been a will it could and still can be done. Australia has been looking for a buyer for the last 3 Adelaide ships. If PN wanted it could probably get them on the cheap and these are all armed with the Mk13 arm and 8 cell Mk41 VLS. If PN acquired them they could...

Deal never went anywhere

I was responding to the comment on PN getting more OHP. I DONT think it will happen but i stated if they are actually trying ti do so, they should try to buy the 3 remaining Adelaide instead. The Adelaides still have the MK13 Launchers to fire harpoons or SM2 (Of course PN could use it for...

I think getting 3 Jinnah class AND 3 Ada will be too much of a tall task by 2025. Frankly, i think there wont be an Ada per se. With the models of PN MILGEM with a 12 cell VLS i think these will be the Jinnah class. I think initially PN was to do this in 2 stages but now I think they will just...

What i dont get is that on one thread people are claiming F-16 blk 72 and V upgrades and in another people say no money for JF-17, JH-7A, or J-10. By the look, @MastanKhan is correct that there is too much fishiness from PAF when it comes to funds. Afterall, this is the same branch that wanted...

I think then the integration of SD-10A should be possible. In the Indo-Pak theater though, with such close proximity and with the plan for over 150 JF-17 and over 75 F-16, im not sure it is worth it for F-7 which is on its way out. That being said there are dual ejector racks for Mig-21bis wvr...

3 type 054A? We were told 4 of these ships or did i miss something?

That is only partially true. While you can use the weapon without a radar, the seeker of the missile is the one finding the target. That means the seeker searches the sky, essentially looking for a bright/hot target to go chase and when it gets tone, you fire. A fire control radar mated to the...

So the original F-7M had a british sky ranger radar which had a range of 15km. These were upgraded to the F-7MP also known in PAF as the F-7P with the FIAR (now leonardo/selex) Grifo-7. This radar has a range of 55km and these gave the ability to fire the Aim-9L. The Grifo 7 was then replaced by...

Doesn't make it smart or dumb... Its a neglible cost to maintain the status quo. I dont think most will add to the numbers serving but be used to retire older airframes and others will be cannibalized for spares.