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  1. abdulbarijan

    Do I just represent the ‘honor’ of the men in my family?

    My brotha, I try to do that ... but since I'm not able to do anything in my real writing, cuz I'm limited to APA writing style with set borders, fonts, font sizes etc. I guess, I make up for that on here ... :D On a serious note, I try to underline and bold the most important parts, but can't...
  2. abdulbarijan

    Do I just represent the ‘honor’ of the men in my family?

    Let me stop your argument in it's tracks. Clothing is a form of self expression, there have been rulings made in courts of the US which ruled in favor of students who broke the dress code set by their schools, and their argument was, clothing is a form of expression and under the first amendment...
  3. abdulbarijan

    Do I just represent the ‘honor’ of the men in my family?

    -That's because respect is not a given, it is EARNED. In this age, where you demand equality in all spheres of life, why is it that you want respect as a given, when respect is not awarded as a given for men? If I respect you, then I should be able to say, that if tomorrow I had a daughter, I'd...
  4. abdulbarijan

    Do I just represent the ‘honor’ of the men in my family?

    -Again, I'm not taking an anti-west or anti-east approach here. I'm talking in terms of personal safety. Do you contest the fact that muslim women (especially the ones wearing hijab) have been on the receiving end of such crimes? In fact, that is exactly the one of the reasons based on which...
  5. abdulbarijan

    Do I just represent the ‘honor’ of the men in my family?

    On a completely unrelated note ... Why does the "hot & sultry expression" of these models always looks as if the lady is smelling a nasty fart ? :D :D
  6. abdulbarijan

    Do I just represent the ‘honor’ of the men in my family?

    -Wearing clothes that defy the culture in the presence of elements which particularly target such people is a cause for concern in terms of personal safety. That was one of your points in the other thread which advocated for women to willingly given up the facial veil in the west (because there...
  7. abdulbarijan

    Sir jee kal strikes season 2 is coming

    My goodness ... please spare us ... SirJeeKal strike Season 1 was cringe worthy enough to last a life time!
  8. abdulbarijan

    Do I just represent the ‘honor’ of the men in my family?

    -This is because women under "normal circumstances" are the objects of desire which are fought over (I'm sorry if that sounds harsh, but that's biology for ya). Be it glaring, trying to make eye contact, or cringe worthy songs, those are just people trying to court those objects. -The most...
  9. abdulbarijan

    Do I just represent the ‘honor’ of the men in my family?

    -Do women just represent the "honor" of the men in the family? Nope. Children (irrespective of gender) are taken as representatives of their family in different facets of life, atleast in Pakistan. I've seen kids, I repeat KIDS who look like they study in 1st, 2nd grade, dish out curses that...
  10. abdulbarijan

    Pakistani man who said he was ISI spy made up story to settle in India: Sources

    The reaction of the keyboard warriors across the border right now :P
  11. abdulbarijan

    Face Veil removal request in Western Countries

    -I never said that your an anti-hijabi or anything. I'm just saying that while you "advise" other people to hand their liberty (in this case by willingly dropping their garments that they WANT to wear and wear of their free choice), they ain't getting that liberty back ... The US is a prime...
  12. abdulbarijan

    Face Veil removal request in Western Countries

    Funny, I don't remember taking any of your points :P That was karma for every time you brought the whole niqab, burqa and hijab thing :D Nope, I'm in favor of the freedom of personal choice. :D
  13. abdulbarijan

    Face Veil removal request in Western Countries

    Hey don't get offended. I like the fact that we can engage in a civil and respectful discussion where your points are more or less always destroyed :D (kidding btw :P) -First of all "FIR" is like a formal complaint to the police ... what your talking about is the FIA (Federal investigation...
  14. abdulbarijan

    Face Veil removal request in Western Countries

    I've noticed, whenever I bring out a survey or a scientific research, all your argument shifts in to "I'm talking about the face i.e. the niqab, not the hijab". My dear api hazoor, do you really think that 57% of the population who want the burqa gone have any idea about the difference of the...
  15. abdulbarijan

    Face Veil removal request in Western Countries

    Just to put it in to context before replying, you've stated before; "You don't see a woman or anyone hiding bombs in their bikinis, yet they do in Burqas. Bikinis don't hide your identity, burqas and face veil do. " and now you state "I don't see the need to ban Burqa for the "Personal safety"...
  16. abdulbarijan

    Face Veil removal request in Western Countries

    Dear Api Hazoor, when you cite one piece of evidence, don't forget the other piece which you referred to as irrelevant just a few posts ago. Don't forget that the majority of the population in the UK (about 57% if im not mistaken according to the survey by YouGov) supports an outright ban on the...
  17. abdulbarijan

    Face Veil removal request in Western Countries

    -Well, forgive me for saying .. I didn't see the anger, the call for inappropriateness, the post for irrelevance, instead I saw a post regarding "thanks for your input & interesting points" when Mr @Manama was talking about the security issues in terms of "women hiding bombs inside their...
  18. abdulbarijan

    Face Veil removal request in Western Countries

    -Now that your comfortable replying in detail, I hope you'll be kind enough to respond to my colorful aka rang brangi post from before. -Secondly, there is a reason why I didn't bring the whole undergarments point before, it was because your arguments regarding security were surrounding...
  19. abdulbarijan

    Face Veil removal request in Western Countries

    Welcome to the forums. I must say it is nice to see such strong opinionated, reasoned and passionate people as you and dadi ji aka @Divergent1 :P -Coming to your point that touches on the argument that I've been making. First off, what you are saying is drastically different than the argument...
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