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  1. abdulbarijan

    How Pakistani-Americans are entering interfaith and interracial marriages — and making them work

    The funniest thing here is your incapability to address the points being made and resorting to dismissive comments because you know for a fact, contesting the points being raised is going to be an uphill battle filled with bitter truths that you might not want to hear ...
  2. abdulbarijan

    How Pakistani-Americans are entering interfaith and interracial marriages — and making them work

    Quick recap: He was making an argument about how who view p*rnography are equal to people going out, forming intimate relationships and having s*x ... His reasoning was purely from the stand point of supply/ demand/ profit seeking etc. to which I presented the quoted argument. As far as your...
  3. abdulbarijan

    How Pakistani-Americans are entering interfaith and interracial marriages — and making them work

    LOL! ... your arguments are getting more 'funny' as we go. So how exactly do you "encourage the act"? ... As per your previous arguments, it is encouraged by the demand resulting in more supply resulting in more profit ... right? (hence the example of the dealer and sales of guns to terrorists)...
  4. abdulbarijan

    How Pakistani-Americans are entering interfaith and interracial marriages — and making them work

    You need like 10 more to get some sense in that empty aqal/samajh dani :P
  5. abdulbarijan

    How Pakistani-Americans are entering interfaith and interracial marriages — and making them work

    Son ... this "agree to disagree excuse" is applicable when two arguments carry weight ... yours doesn't ... so you can move on all you want ... doesn't make your argument right ...
  6. abdulbarijan

    How Pakistani-Americans are entering interfaith and interracial marriages — and making them work

    -No one is arguing that watching p*rn is a sin. No one is even arguing that watching it delivers higher profits for the market. Heck no one is arguing that it encourages more people (especially women) to go in to the industry to make easy money. -The point of argument is that a normal guy or...
  7. abdulbarijan

    How Pakistani-Americans are entering interfaith and interracial marriages — and making them work

    It doesn't ... it's a sin either way... The original arguments were about how virginity of a person doesn't dictate their character. My take was, that it depends on the situation. So for example, when a girl is presented as the epitome of good and shareef (as per Pakistani standards) in marriage...
  8. abdulbarijan

    How Pakistani-Americans are entering interfaith and interracial marriages — and making them work

    Sure then I suppose you'd have no problem explaining the following ... right? "-More demand = More supply right? So more demand of P*RN creates more supply of what? -- P*RN right? -How does more demand of P*RN create a supply of normal people engaging in pre-marital intimate relationships (the...
  9. abdulbarijan

    How Pakistani-Americans are entering interfaith and interracial marriages — and making them work

    So not only do you NOT understand the arguments leaving your own mind ... but you also have some problems reading and understanding the context of the discussion ...
  10. abdulbarijan

    How Pakistani-Americans are entering interfaith and interracial marriages — and making them work

    Alright ... enlighten us all ... answer this question which was the subject of discussion which was taking place before you conveniently decided to shift to other goal posts ... -More demand = More supply right? So more demand of P*RN creates more supply of what? -- P*RN right? -How does more...
  11. abdulbarijan

    How Pakistani-Americans are entering interfaith and interracial marriages — and making them work

    I'm sorry that I'm not 'smart enough' to let you move the goal posts as they suit you. Your demand and supply arguments don't apply to p*rn addicts/watchers being just as culpable as normal people engaging in pre-marital intimate relationships(the subject being argued) ... which is exactly why...
  12. abdulbarijan

    How Pakistani-Americans are entering interfaith and interracial marriages — and making them work

    Again ... you fail to provide any reasoning as to how an individual who is merely watching a movie in the privacy of his/her own home, hidden from anybody = someone who goes out and dates / has premarital s*x ... If I were to accept the argument of more watchers= more demand = more supply ...
  13. abdulbarijan

    How Pakistani-Americans are entering interfaith and interracial marriages — and making them work

    You literally argued against your own case with your last justification .... of the 'consumers (addicts/ watchers) creating demand leading the suppliers (people creating the videos/ movies) to create more.' FYI suppliers and consumers are two VERY different things which was what most of us...
  14. abdulbarijan

    How Pakistani-Americans are entering interfaith and interracial marriages — and making them work

    @Vazir You do realize that you pretty much made a case against your own initial position about how 'watching p0rn and having s*x is the same thing' ? :P
  15. abdulbarijan

    How Pakistani-Americans are entering interfaith and interracial marriages — and making them work

    In your opening argument, you started with generalizing "Pakistani men", so you made it a subject by doing that (which is why you were met with the arguments I presented about "typical Pakistani women" ... ) Agreed on the initial part of equal and free human beings having the rights to defend...
  16. abdulbarijan

    How Pakistani-Americans are entering interfaith and interracial marriages — and making them work

    Well I can respect you having an opinion and sticking to it, although I disagree with it. It's like saying if a crowd watches one man assault another without intervening --- the crowd should also be charged with assault. -You know what ... I can agree and fully support the first paragraph of...
  17. abdulbarijan

    How Pakistani-Americans are entering interfaith and interracial marriages — and making them work

    So in your opinion, a person watching the act = a person actually engaging in the act? By the way let's not start to pretend that ONLY men in our society go to such websites ...
  18. abdulbarijan

    How Pakistani-Americans are entering interfaith and interracial marriages — and making them work

    -So in your mind; Guys watching p0rn = Girls engaging in sexual intercourse before marriage? -You Pakistani women have to let go of your victim complex. You love to vilify every husband who was presented as a stand up guy and after marriage he showed his true colors (drunk/ violent / has side...
  19. abdulbarijan

    How Pakistani-Americans are entering interfaith and interracial marriages — and making them work

    -While we love to judge Pakistani men and call them hypocrites because they look at "attractive liberal women" but want a "shareef wife" let's not kid ourselves, because Pakistani women too look at "handsome men" but in marriage negotiations they also want a "shareef/ well established/...
  20. abdulbarijan

    Things Anyone Who’s A Liberal In Pakistan Can Completely Understand

    @Hell hound .. I recall you had a thread that addressed the subject of 'what it means to be a liberal' ... Can you share the conclusion of the thread e.g. a definition of what is a liberal according to the pdf libs on here?
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