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History of Turks proves otherwise bro..Just dont assume too much next time... On the topic, Pakistan has nukes, who gives a sh!t about "AF"??

Good news indeed...Engine production is Turkish Defence Industry`s Achilles toe...Japan might help us about that

That Bahoz guy is immensely brainwashed...I dont see a point why you guys discussing the legality of terrorist PKK organization with him...You will give thousands of examples of atrocities committed by PKK and he will say these were not committed by PKK but instead TAK or sth..Pointless...

Just like you cant defeat Xinjiang residents, right? Terrorism cant be defeated by brute force...There are many examples in front of you but i dont expect you to understand such issues

I dont say anything, just stating facts..Smuggling tobacco, textile products, gasoline and drug traffic is widespread in the region since 90s Because successive Turkish governments have kept a blind eye to such activities in the impoverished southeast to a certain degree as the state was...

Ignorance is bliss bro...Hold on to it

You are dodging my question as expected...How will Turkey divide if there is already a division by the border? Accuse France and UK for creating that border then instead of turning everything in to propaganda..As i said, lets talk after the construction is finished and lets see the will of "the...

Well spare me of your standart propaganda set lines...You talk as if you are already connected but Turkey will build a wall and divide you in the middle...There is already a border where you cant pass and the wall will be in the middle of it...You know that right? But anyhow believe what you...

Not true..These illegal activities have been going on for years, long before Syrian civil war...You are connecting these activities with refuge flow which is not accurate...These smugglers come from Iraq and Iran too but its impossible for Turkey to control as the geographical conditions wont...

Re-read my previous post one more time..I didnt mention about clashes, did i? I am talking about illegal drug/gasoline trafficing...Your petty attempt to turn everything in to propaganda wont work here...Just google Nusaybin and gasoline/drug trafficing and see the results for yourself...

lol at underlined part..Those separatist insects never miss a chance for a nice smooth propaganda.. Anyhow shame that they stopped the construction..I hope thats a temporary situation...This wall is crucial for stopping illegal drug/gasoline/human trafficing...

Mate dont let some fanatical fundamentalists behaviors shape your view about a religion..Some deluded people committing crimes doesn't make an entire religion guilty...It happens ONLY in Fundamentalist countries, where the original teachings of Islam have been perverted into a justification for...

Seeing the course of this discussion, i am pretty sure that those terrorists are happy as their main purpose is to destabilize the region and surely their "mission is accomplished"...Pointing fingers at one another is not going to solve the problem, is it? Seeking for co-operation is way to go...

Thats right, its obvious you like to troll...But you fail to understand what you read bro...The title asks for your opinion about the rise of both nations and which one of them is impressive, it doesnt ask who can f.ck who or joining "illegal" wars..You keyboard commandos bring that up..those...

^^ Saçma sapan gifler paylaşıyorsun birader...Türkçe konuşabilelim diye açıldı bu thread, böyle saçma giflerle spam edelim diye değil

We need you more than ever Mustafa Kemal Paşa

No we wont..At least for the time being..We dont have any experience in building such big warships...Lets see how this joint production will work out, then after gaining some experience and hopefully tech, we can make our own if the need arises

RIP to the dead soldiers

The solution for this so called problem is easy..Instead of whining, US should give us Patriots with Full ToT as China does and knock off The System`s Price...There you go...At the end the market is open for competition.. BTW, this news is good for us in the long run..It will accelerate our UAV...

Good analysis bro...Just had to correct you a lil bit , more accurate this way