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Dont drag democracy in it. The issue is the investigation of the 2013 elections under the Judicial Commission assisted by a JIT. No one needs international bodies to jump in. What the foreign observers said was before the constituencies were opened and other discrepancies came forward. Their...

so it becomes categorically clear by the very evidence you have put forward that there is no legal framework for investigating the overall validity of the 'whole election.' An ordinance fills this legal vacuum. And i fail to see what is wrong with doing so.

JC will monitor JIT and will submit the report/verdict (depending on the TORs) at the end of the period. Even though JC will monitor JIT, there is a fear that JIT comprising of only civilian agencies will increase the chances of any crucial information being kept away from the JC. Having a more...

that is a valid point from an outsider's perspective. But its done in Pakistan, nonetheless. Example of this is the JIT constituted by the govt herself few months back which included members of ISI and MI. So atleast this argument doesnt hold ground from people who didnt criticise the govt for...

Dont you guys think before posting topics? There are plenty of other flaws in PTI which you can cry about. What has ECP got to do with the resignations as such? Will PTI not be contesting the local govt elections or any possible election in the future which will be conducted under the new CEC?

Currently no one has the mandate to open up constituencies (or set of constituencies) on their own to investigate the validity of the votes cast. The only legal way available is if an election tribunal decides so. However, Election tribunal only has the mandate with regards to the single...

lets keep this discussion in this thread: PTI offers commission under Supreme Court comprising ISI,MI officers while PM remains in seat. | Page 4

Ok. Show me where the ECP has the mandate to open up a set of constituencies (independent of the tribunals) to investigate the overall validity of the elections.

And its is beyond ECP to open up the constituencies unless decided by the tribunals which are only responsible for individual constituencies. It then follows that overall validity of the election cannot be determined under the current framework.

investigating agencies are merely assisting the Judicial Commission as per the TORs. It would only set a wrong precedent if such agencies are given the right to adjudicate which is not the case here. Legal cover is for the Judicial Commission not for the Joint Investigation Team (which...

So why is everyone crying about the lack of legal cover for the SC to undertake this task? Because no one other than the tribunals have the legal right to open the constituencies for vote verification. And validity of the whole election is beyond the mandate of the tribunals which are only...

There is no legal framework to look into the 'overall' validity of the elections. Therefore, both the sides have agreed to pass an ordinance to allow for this so that a Judicial Commission comprising of SC judges may be able to undertake this task. A JIT will only be helping the Judicial...

law is supposed to achieve justice not restrict it. If there is no legal mechanism to adjudicate on the validity of the election (in Whole) then it is better to create one rather than hide behind the inadequacy of law. what you are saying is more suited for the other side. One does systematic...

After everything is agreed (TORs etc) by the two sides, legal cover is provided by passing the ordinance. That is already agreed upon.

PTI offers commission under Supreme Court comprising ISI,MI officers while PM remains in seat. | Page 3

none in principle. Both the scenarios require investigation. 'Adjudication' is done by the Judges of the SC not by the members of investigation team.

"Comprising 10 members, the JIT team is headed by Additional Inspector General Special Branch Dr Arif Mushtaq Chaudhry. The other nine members include representatives of the ISI, MI, IB, police, Special Branch and Counterterrorism Department." Model Town clash: JIT report suggests police FIR be...

ignorance of N-Leaguers at best. "Comprising 10 members, the JIT team is headed by Additional Inspector General Special Branch Dr Arif Mushtaq Chaudhry. The other nine members include representatives of the ISI, MI, IB, police, Special Branch and Counterterrorism Department." Model Town clash...

nope. i was merely summarizing the video not defending any of the sides