war, war, war.........! why are they demanding so????

I don't know What to say but I think it's all due to
Modiiiiiiiiiiiii

Persecution is worse than slaughter (The Holy Quran).

no justice = no peace. Simple as that.

MarcsPakistan said:

I don't know What to say but I think it's all due to
Modiiiiiiiiiiiii

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i don't think modi was PM during 1965,71,and kagil war........

Max said:

well what do you think our elder generation didn't tried for peace? they all failed..

There will be no peace until resolution of Kashmir dispute..

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oh....! come on i am aware of the pain of resolving kashmir issue showed by both side since 1947.

Another vegetarian thread opened by someone who spends his time watching Indian channels

شاھین میزایل said:

Another vegetarian thread opened by someone who spends his time watching Indian channels

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i don't get why you guys irritates when someone use the word peace.............??????

Maybe both governments could have an understanding to gradually de-escalate hostilities and eventually stop villifying each other. While that is definitely possible, there are three big issues with it.

On Kashmir, accepting LOC as the border will mean acknowledging that the basis for Pakistan's official policy towards India since 1947 was wrong and has failed. South Asians are not exactly known to be great at admitting such things.

And even for Indians, they have now mostly moved to indifferent hostility towards Pakistan. The relentless spate of terror attacks in the 90s and 2000s, especially Mumbai (26/11) has so hardened public opinion in India that barring the ever dwindling Aman ki Asha brigade, Indians are fine with a policy of total diplomatic offensive and no ties with Pakistan. However, if the government were to be gradual in improving ties and Pak-orchestrated terror attacks do not happen for a while, then there is no reason as to why Indian public will care either way.

And speaking of terror attacks, how can India guarantee there will be no attacks in Pakistan? As situation stands today, the cottage terror industry within Pakistan has again started focusing on the domestic market, and just to ease pressure on themselves, Pak establishment are making noises about Indian involvement. In that scenario, I don't see how Pakistanis, weened on a diet of propaganda about India orchestrating attacks in their country, will ever be willing to concede an inch to us.

PurpleButcher said:

I feel more comfortable with indians in middle east than bengalis or arabs....

Lets make LOC the international border and focus on economy and trade....

Wish these things could happen but our politicians will never want to resolve this, if this rivalry is resolved , people will start asking questions which our politicians want to avoid.

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I had more Pakistani frnds then Indians abroad. Wonderful ppl. Recently one of them personally called me and invited for his daughters wedding.

Dont know what happens to them when they return back home.

Immanuel said:

Look, there are very minor things that keep peace at bay, if Pak continues to its strong offensive against terrorists including Anti India ones like LET, JEM and others, we can call the LOC a recognized border and call it a day.

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if india stopped their stupid media against Pakistan and things in afg.. things will very much easy to bring peace in our both countries

Two brothers when divide family properties may get uneven portion. One may get more the other may get less.
Most of the people settle with the division and move on. But few remain disgruntled and fight and file cases.

India and Pakistan can make Loc as IB and move on live peacefully.

Sarge said:

Pakistanis and Indians are great friends outside their respective countries
Pakistan and Indian Armies are allies under UNO flag

The effect of the soil vanishes as the plane takes off

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thats because we have never met each other.. once you meet at a place where nobody speaks your language except that guy, you have no other option to think that person as human being not some enemy.
also pakistanis(especially those from pakistan, not british born) are big hearted and helpful... in my experience...
I dont like unnecessary sentimentality though.. am not punjabi... got no attachment with pakistan.

Gaznavi said:

i don't think modi was PM during 1965,71,and kagil war........


oh....! come on i am aware of the pain of resolving kashmir issue showed by both side since 1947.

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When did i say about 65,71 ?
I am talking about these days

After the utter failure and disgrace of Aman ki Asha, we now want Aman ki Asha V 2.0.

Zaheer1971 said:

Diwali would be played by Pakistan and whole land would be lightened free of cost with a big large mushroom on the sky.

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thank-you mate... please carry on .. this will only help us making our perspective stronger globally.

Zaheer1971 said:

Diwali would be played by Pakistan and whole land would be lightened free of cost with a big large mushroom on the sky.


Is there some sane Pakistani mod or TT or admin who can give this useless thread a Negative rating. We have an old score to settle with India.

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It would be great for India if Pakistani establishment also express such sentiments. Plz recommend them.

Lurch Adams said:

Maybe both governments could have an understanding to gradually de-escalate hostilities and eventually stop villifying each other. While that is definitely possible, there are three big issues with it.

On Kashmir, accepting LOC as the border will mean acknowledging that the basis for Pakistan's official policy towards India since 1947 was wrong and has failed. South Asians are not exactly known to be great at admitting such things.

And even for Indians, they have now mostly moved to indifferent hostility towards Pakistan. The relentless spate of terror attacks in the 90s and 2000s, especially Mumbai (26/11) has so hardened public opinion in India that barring the ever dwindling Aman ki Asha brigade, Indians are fine with a policy of total diplomatic offensive and no ties with Pakistan. However, if the government were to be gradual in improving ties and Pak-orchestrated terror attacks do not happen for a while, then there is no reason as to why Indian public will care either way.

And speaking of terror attacks, how can India guarantee there will be no attacks in Pakistan? As situation stands today, the cottage terror industry within Pakistan has again started focusing on the domestic market, and just to ease pressure on themselves, Pak establishment are making noises about Indian involvement. In that scenario, I don't see how Pakistanis, weened on a diet of propaganda about India orchestrating attacks in their country, will ever be willing to concede an inch to us.

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Accepting LOC as IB doesn't mean Pak was wrong...it just mean Pak gives up the demand for plebiscite. It is rather India that lays claim to Kashmir based on the Instrument of Accession. India would also look just as bad in front of Indians by giving up it's claim on Kashmir as Pak would look to Pakistanis giving up demand for a plebiscite.

And as for the terror attacks...
How can it be always the case that when terror attacks happen in India, Pak is for sure responsible. When they happen in Pak, India is for sure innocent?

U guys say that those terror attacks in Pak are due to Pak propping up terrorist outfits. Then if they are that out of control of Pak that they attack Pak itself. How does Pak convince them to attack India then? Also if they have gone out of Pak's control where do they keep getting the funds, weaponry, and training to continue attacking Pak? R u suggesting that Pak is still financing them to keep attacking Pak? Then spending additional money to fight them(Zarb-e-Azab)? This flies in the face of logic.

The groups that are targeting Pakistan are definitely not being funded and armed by Pakistan. So where does their funding come from? It's not like Pakistan has thousands of enemies. The answer is obvious. Ur own politicians have admitted to engaging in a proxy war with Pakistan. Come on mate, this whole holier than thou approach doesn't work in reality.

If u r still going to believe that India does no such thing then u r essentially saying that Pak can carry out terrorist attacks in India and India just takes it, letting it's citizens die with no response.

The reality is that all countries engage in this kind of dirty game. The difference is Pakistanis own it and Indians deny it.