Meet Owj: Iran’s First Indigenous Fighter Jet Engine

AmirPatriot said:

Then we need to see how capabilities and posture have changed in 15 years.

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I hope we never have to see it, because to see it would mean that there is war.

mohsen said:

today's reality is even more real. number, quality, range, stealthiness and types of our missiles have increased by dozen times, while Americans are still using the same floating cans waiting to be targeted.
Grounded: Nearly two-thirds of US Navy’s strike fighters can’t fly

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That's okay, the US only needs a small portion of its strike fighters to achieve their target. Let's not forget just how poor in shape Iran's air force is in.

That Guy said:

I hope we never have to see it, because to see it would mean that there is war.

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Of course, but that's not what I meant. I meant we need to analyse US capabilities and how they have changed since 2002.

That Guy said:

I hope we never have to see it, because to see it would mean that there is war.


That's okay, the US only needs a small portion of its strike fighters to achieve their target. Let's not forget just how poor in shape Iran's air force is in.

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Iran's air force is it's Missile power, and our air defense take cares of the very few remaining enemy fighters.

That Guy said:

That's okay, the US only needs a small portion of its strike fighters to achieve their target. Let's not forget just how poor in shape Iran's air force is in.

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I guess you've been in hibernation for the last 7 years and did not see the tremendous advancement in Iranian air defence sector. Iran's air defence can with ease deal with any air force in the region.

mohsen said:

Iran's air force is it's Missile power, and our air defense take cares of the very few remaining enemy fighters.

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Indeed, these people seem to lack basic common sense. They think only air force can defend a nation's air space.

mohsen said:

Iran's air force is it's Missile power, and our air defense take cares of the very few remaining enemy fighters.

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In other words, you admit that Iran's air force is in terrible condition.

Faravahar said:

I guess you've been in hibernation for the last 7 years and did not see the tremendous advancement in Iranian air defence sector. Iran's air defence can with ease deal with any air force in the region.

Indeed, these people seem to lack basic common sense. They think only air force can defend a nation's air space.

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That's not going to help, when faced with a carrier battle group, with anti-missile tech on it. Iran can only do so much with its missiles.

That Guy said:

In other words, you admit that Iran's air force is in terrible condition.

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Is that meant yo be a slight? Because attempting to slight Iranians over the IRIAF is a pathetically futile task.

That Guy said:

That's not going to help, when faced with a carrier battle group, with anti-missile tech on it. Iran can only do so much with its missiles

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Tell Van Ripper that.

That Guy said:

In other words, you admit that Iran's air force is in terrible condition.

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F-4-5-14, SU-24-25, Saeqeh-1-2, mig-23-29 combination is not weak but old and strong.
We will have a big shift in our air superiority within the upcoming two years. I mean after developing heavy turbojet engines. At the same time Iran is able to raise the Titanium percentage in it's super alloys, also can install AESA radars due to Iran's long history of activity in the radar productions, then only two years is remaining for Iran's muscling up in the sky. If we consider SU-30 joint production in Iran is not possible And i hope so, Russia withdraws from that proposal, then Iran will get forced to develop it's home made fighters.

Erl said:

F-4-5-14, SU-24-25, Saeqeh-1-2 combination is not weak but old and strong.
We will have a big shift in our air superiority within the upcoming two years. I mean after developing heavy turbojet engines. At the same time Iran is able to raise the Titanium percentage in it's super alloys, also can install AESA radars due to Iran's long history of activity in the radar productions, then only two years is remaining for Iran's muscling up in the sky. If we consider SU-30 joint production in Iran is not possible And i hope so, Russia withdraws from that proposal, then Iran will get forced to develop it's home made fighters.

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Its beyond terrible ... don't fool yourself ....

how many times I repeat this damn " don't fool yourself " in this section !?

Hmmm... Hopefully this doesn't sound stupid (which it will) but cant Iran just halt missile production and shift to large scale air defense production. Maybe bolster the air defense units by a couple thousands installations all over the country?

Or is that just not feasible.

Jets and a modern Air Force seem like a fairy tail for Iran at this point. Gotta make up for it in some other area.

OldTwilight said:

Its beyond terrible ... don't fool yourself ....

how many times I repeat this damn " don't fool yourself " in this section !?

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Oh, i apology. Hope my stupid comment didn't bother you brother.
That was based on my weak knowledge, will be glad to have your guidance about the future of IRIAF.

That Guy said:

That's not going to help, when faced with a carrier battle group, with anti-missile tech on it. Iran can only do so much with its missiles.

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If you're going to reply to me, at least make a comment worth replying to and not some hocus pocus.
An integrated ground based air defence can easily deal with the carrier groups and their "anti-missile" techs won't do much when you have thousands of air defence points scattered across a country 4 times the size of Texas with alot of tech designed to doop anti air systems such as use of long wavelength frequency hoping system, including mobile OTH radars, the Americans will not know where most these air defence points are till its too late and by the time they find out, the mobile system would have moved, hence the term mobile. And this is not even taking into account that their so called carrier groups will be sitting ducks within the range of Iranian offensive missile capabilities.

Airforce has its good uses obviously, but to claim it will provide that much of a better form of defence than a heavily integrated ground based AD unit is folly.

Erl said:

Oh, i apology. Hope my stupid comment didn't bother you brother.
That was based on my weak knowledge, will be glad to have your guidance about the future of IRIAF.

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IRIAF have not future at all ...

OldTwilight said:

IRIAF have not future at all ...

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Erl said:

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well , When I had hope in our administrators , they didn't make things better ( they worsen it !! ) now days , I don't believe in them and they prove that they can't even maintain stable electricity in Iran's most richest province ....

breathing sand will change peoples

BlueInGreen2 said:

air defense units by a couple thousands installations all over the country?

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It is already 3700 units and is growing fast to fulfill 5000 units in couple of years..