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Why is Pakistan forcing Afghan refugees back home? – Inside Story

They forgot to mention the main reason, ie, Afghanistan being the shining jewel of Asia and the most progressive country that every Afghan will love to live in. There might as well be many Pakistani people trying to leave this God forsaken country for a bright future in Afghanistan!! That is what some Afghani claim here anyway.

On a serious note, as the lady from Afghanistan confirms in this video, these people have been living and ENJOYING the benefits of the hospitality extended to them by Pakistan authorities and PEOPLE for DECADES, i think it is about time we realize that all that good was for nothing. They hate and we must focus more on our own people rather then feeding millions of these Afghan people. They have a country of there own and must return now.
 
The "inside" reasons:
-There is no need for them to be refugees indefinitely
-There is a high rate of illegal activity / terrorism associated with Afghans in Pakistan
-Pakistan is a developing population-stressed nation that cannot continue to host millions of additional people (in the form of Afghan refugees)

Is it really rocket science?
 
pakistani342 said:
thanks for asking. All well on my end. Hope everybody is splendid too.

Yeah, sadly I am focused on the study of China these days -- and there is so little I know -- lol
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Yes ,but then shattered due to this current weave of terrorism in country..
China its not you alone most of us know very little about Chinese diplomacy,history, culture and social fabric..
 
H!TchHiker said:
Yes ,but then shattered due to this current weave of terrorism in country..
China its not you alone most of us know very little about Chinese diplomacy,history, culture and social fabric..
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mmm, I've not been paying attention to the last few instances in the country -- have the incidents changed the mood ???

My (un-educated guess) would be Afghan NDS

Regardless if Pakistan wants to have peace it has to:
1. expel Afghans -- this will keep the pressure intense inside Afghanistan
2. seal the border using mines -- trenches
3. go ruthlessly after Mullahs -- do an Ata-Turk on them -- one can dream
4. list is long of the other things ...
 
pakistani342 said:
mmm, I've not been paying attention to the last few instances in the country -- have the incidents changed the mood ???

My (un-educated guess) would be Afghan NDS

Regardless if Pakistan wants to have peace it has to:
1. expel Afghans -- this will keep the pressure intense inside Afghanistan
2. seal the border using mines -- trenches
3. go ruthlessly after Mullahs -- do an Ata-Turk on them -- one can dream
4. list is long of the other things ...
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1) Extension has been granted till December 2017
2) No plan to mine the border just usual closure for 2-3 days unless Ghani and Nawaz say "Hi" and will re-open the border
3)They have not yet announce these attacks haram collectively , so this is another no
4) Long long list, sometime it seems impossible to live with peace.Or we have to consider these bombs as New Normal
 
H!TchHiker said:
1) Extension has been granted till December 2017
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Yeah I saw that ... maybe to deflect international pressure ... on the other hand Pakistan has a good opportunity to expel Afghans now ... the world is busy with more pressing problems ... plus with the West expelling Afghans, it has no locus standee to counsel Pakistan.

H!TchHiker said:
2) No plan to mine the border just usual closure for 2-3 days unless Ghani and Nawaz say "Hi" and will re-open the border
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If Pakistan wants the CPEC to be successful it has to focus on internal security -- without an insulation from Afghanistan, Pakistan will not be able to leverage the CPEC.

H!TchHiker said:
3)They have not yet announce these attacks haram collectively , so this is another no
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It is not a matter of haram or halal -- the Mullahs breed thought that is not based on science -- if Pakistan wants to compete in the 21st century it has to choose if it wants to build a society on science or these Mullahs. I was recently reading my old books on Ata Turk and I think Ata Turk knew that unless he took radical steps, Turkey would remain asleep on mysticism and psesuo-science. Ata Turk's mom Zubeydah was a deeply religious person who had a deep impact on Ata Turk -- but Ata Turk had the foresight to see that the beard was not Islam -- the beard is just a mirage which takes a fews weeks to grow -- science takes decades of fortitude.

H!TchHiker said:
4) Long long list, sometime it seems impossible to live with peace.Or we have to consider these bombs as New Normal
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Well ... yes this is going to be the new normal ... there will be no peace for decades. Pakistan has to reverse the course of the hateful and stupid curriculum ... I saw an article that the Punjab Board's text books state: "evolution to be one of the most absurd theories proposed" -- really??? you cannot build a space faring nation with such textbooks.

Pakistan has decades of work to do
 
pakistani342 said:
Yeah I saw that ... maybe to deflect international pressure ... on the other hand Pakistan has a good opportunity to expel Afghans now ... the world is busy with more pressing problems ... plus with the West expelling Afghans, it has no locus standee to counsel Pakistan.



If Pakistan wants the CPEC to be successful it has to focus on internal security -- without an insulation from Afghanistan, Pakistan will not be able to leverage the CPEC.



It is not a matter of haram or halal -- the Mullahs breed thought that is not based on science -- if Pakistan wants to compete in the 21st century it has to choose if it wants to build a society on science or these Mullahs. I was recently reading my old books on Ata Turk and I think Ata Turk knew that unless he took radical steps, Turkey would remain asleep on mysticism and psesuo-science. Ata Turk's mom Zubeydah was a deeply religious person who had a deep impact on Ata Turk -- but Ata Turk had the foresight to see that the beard was not Islam -- the beard is just a mirage which takes a fews weeks to grow -- science takes decades of fortitude.



Well ... yes this is going to be the new normal ... there will be no peace for decades. Pakistan has to reverse the course of the hateful and stupid curriculum ... I saw an article that the Punjab Board's text books state: "evolution to be one of the most absurd theories proposed" -- really??? you cannot build a space faring nation with such textbooks.

Pakistan has decades of work to do
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.There was a general ayub khan who knew how to deal with afghanistan.You speak politely with them and they will perceive you "Buzdil" . Twist there arm or throw money and they will dance on your tunes..
There was once Ex-FM said "To achieve peace we need to forget there is a country called Afghanistan in our neighbor just close every thing with them..No relation and shut down borders nether interfere there let them do what they used to do"
In house cleaning is needed the only thing nobody think here as "Pakistani" ..
 
H!TchHiker said:
I may sound racist, but Punjabi elite is coward...There was a general ayub khan who knew how to deal with afghanistan.You speak politely with them and they will perceive you "Buzdil" . Twist there arm or throw money and they will dance on your tunes..
There was once Ex-FM said "To achieve peace we need to forget there is a country called Afghanistan in our neighbor just close every thing with them..No relation and shut down borders nether interfere there let them do what they used to do"
In house cleaning is needed the only thing nobody think here as "Pakistani" ..
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Maybe Punjabi culture has a problem with clear thinking [I'm a Punjabi -- or at least 50%] -- but perhaps it's not Punjabi culture -- it's this lack of rigor when trying to combine realism with folky-soft-nice-sounding-parables-that-have-no-utility-in-the-modern-world

Curious who was that Ex-FM ??
 
pakistani342 said:
Maybe Punjabi culture has a problem with clear thinking [I'm a Punjabi -- or at least 50%] -- but perhaps it's not Punjabi culture -- it's this lack of rigor when trying to combine realism with folky-soft-nice-sounding-parables-that-have-no-utility-in-the-modern-world

Curious who was that Ex-FM ??
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I think she was Hinna Rabani ....
May be you are right since they are dominating in institutions so sometime the criticism rightly or wrongly directed towards them more..
 
H!TchHiker said:
I think she was Hinna Rabani ....
May be you are right since they are dominating in institutions so sometime the criticism rightly or wrongly directed towards them more..
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Really Hina Rabani said that ??? mmm

pakistani342 said:
Really Hina Rabani said that ??? mmm
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On the other point -- I think there has been a systematic stunting of critical thought brought about Zia's islamization.

If it is not reversed Pakistan will end up like Sudan.
 
pakistani342 said:
Really Hina Rabani said that ??? mmm



On the other point -- I think there has been a systematic stunting of critical thought brought about Zia's islamization.

If it is not reversed Pakistan will end up like Sudan.
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I will share once i find the same interview...I remember words were like this almost :confused:
Fanatics needs to be controlled ..
 

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