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Pakistan interested in buying 30-40 J-31s
FC-31 / J-31 / F-60? Stealth Fighter
India is much larger than Pakistan, in terms of geographic arae, population, and econmy. In the face Indian quantitative conventional superiority, the Pakistan Army is developing an extensive battlefield nuclear weapons posture as an asymetric response on the ground. In the air, Pakistan must turn to stealth.

The Pakistan Air Force had traditionally been the "quality" air force while the Indian Air Force has been the numerically superior "quantity" air force. But with the passage of time, it was believed that the Indian Air Force had surpassed its Pakistani counterpart both qualitatively and quantitatively.

India had procured large numbers of advanced fighters in the enw century, including hundreds of thrust-vectoring Su-30MKIs and dozens of carrier-capable MiG-29Ks. Additionally, many older Indian fighters have been substantially upgraded with new avionics and cutting edge jamming systems. India has its own JF-17 equivalent, the 'Tejas" light combat aircraft. The stealthy Russian-Indian PGFA fighter program is based on Russia's 5th generation stealthy fighter design, the Sukhoi T-50.

The FC-31 stealth fighter jet reportedly matches a strong need for fifth generation fighters by the Pakistan Air Force, which is already struggling to find an aircraft to go up against the Russian-made T-50 fifth-generation fighter being acquired by India. The twin-engine FC-31 fighter jet resembles the American Air Force’s F-35 Joint Strike Fighter.

The Pakistan Air Force (PAF) showed interest in buying fourth generation stealth fighter aircraft FC-31 from China. Janes reported 12 November 2014 that the Pakistan Air Force (PAF) was in talks with China to buy 30 to 40 of the Shenyang FC-31 twin-engined stealth fighter displayed at Airshow China 2014 in Zhuhai. Pakistani Defence Production minister Rana Tanveer Hussain said in late November 2014 that the matter was being discussed with Chinese authorities. According to Dawn, it was for the first time that a senior government functionary had confirmed talks with China over purchase of the longer-range stealth aircraft.

The Pakistani military authorities were determined to acquire 30 to 40 fourth generation stealth fighter (FC-31) aircraft from China with a view to pre-empting the rapidly increasing aerial dominance of the Indian Air Force (IAF) in the region. Pakistan had approached China and Russia to fulfill its defense procurements as the Pak-US ties continued to chill.

The JF-31 may also allow Pakistan to retire other aircraft and focus on it and the JF-17 for its future combat capability, presenting a relevant and sustainable high-low air combat capability mix.

Chief of the Air Staff (CAS) Air Chief Marshal Sohail Aman told The News 04 December 2015 that Pakistan would keep up with other regional powers that are buying 5th generation jets, and that negotiations had begun with the US about buying single engine multi-role F-35 fighters. The plane is widely regarded as the fighter jet of the next decade. Aman said that three options are being explored and the Pakistan Air Force (PAF) could have 5th generation jets within 5 years.

In an interview aired by the national broadcaster PTV 31 May 2016, Pakistan Air Force (PAF) chief Air Chief Marshal Sohail Aman said Vision 2030 aims for greater indigenization of avionics, communication systems, and other subsystems and components for a fifth generation fighter. He accepted there are budgetary and research challenges, but said human resources and infrastructure was being developed to ensure that 10-15 years from now these goals could be achieved. A major aspect of this is Aviation City near Pakistan Aeronautical Complex in Kamra, the home of Pakistan’s aviation industry, which will have its own higher education facilities to nurture talent for the indigenization process.

As outlined by Aman, the JF-17 program laid the groundwork and “instilled sufficient confidence” to consider moving from a 50-50 partnership, as with the JF-17, to one featuring perhaps 70 percent to 80 percent “local design and production.”




http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/pakistan/fc-31.htm
 
Well it's good if we procure advanced jets. But if we are short of funds, even then we can easily win the war.. Our missile program is fairly advanced and we only need little investment to make it more advanced, capable of ditching any known missile defense systems.

Pakistan should invest in sending satellites into orbit, and should also invest in a missile program to target enemy satellites.

Book 20, Number 4711: It has been narrated on the authority of Ibn Amir who said: I heard the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) say-and he was delivering a sermon from the pulpit : Prepare to meet them with as much strength as you can afford. Beware, strength consists in archery. Beware, strength consists in archery. Beware, strength consists in archery. Sahih Muslim
 
Seems like a small number...

Standard squadron size is usually 12 or 24...

I'd think for Pakistan's defence needs they'd need a larger number... maybe 7 squadrons of 12 (84 aircraft) or 3 squadrons of 24 (72 aircraft), or even a mix of the two... with such squadron ideas it really depends how many bases you intend to deploy them on and in what areas.

Pakistan has an advantage in this case in that it has 1 (admittedly sizeable) front with India in the East. Whereas for a country like Iran which has enemies in the west (Israel) and South/South East (Arabs, US Navy), it would need more forces to ensure it's forces aren't spread out thin.
 
i think this is the initial numbers of what Pakistan is gonna buy... but isn't it too early to say that Pakistan is buying J-31's

i mean only 1st prototype has flew no weapons testing no radar testing etc etc has been done yet

or Pakistan is looking to buying small numbers of J-31 and TAI TFX? to keep and east and west Combo...


but still 7-8 years left for these plane to go in production stage...

PAF can't sell their old manjan of F-16 and JF-17 for all threats .. They need another type of Fighter with longer range and higher payload, and Stealth Features

True we need some Flankers for coastal areas and J-10's to replace our ageing Mirages ...
 
JF-17 equivalent to Tejas? Former is light weight and latter is medium combat aircraft.
FGFA-- on paper. Russia is going to induct T-50 first sq. in 2018 and for India- not before 2021.

Well the article is mentioning the reports from 2014 & 2015. Nothing new in this article.
 
First of all China is testing a New engine with improved power and that will make Jf-17 more capable than the MIG and M2K and New Raffy. Currently tejas is receiving Lanat from both IAF and IN. Now India is not going for PAK FA but the want Russia to do a JV on FGFA and Russia is busy in PAK FA so till now there are no talks between India and Russia on the issue because Russia is not willing to do TOT and JV on 5th Gen with India. Now FC-31 will be bought by Pakistan and Iran as both the countries were eager to buy J10 but are now reluctant and waiting for something. Iran is also not moving ahead with SU30mki deal with Russia that means that Both countries are either looking for FC-31 or Iran will go for PAK-FA and Pakistan will go for FC-31. India might end up with F35 in 2030 there is a bit of current situation.
 
i think this is the initial numbers of what Pakistan is gonna buy... but isn't it too early to say that Pakistan is buying J-31's

i mean only 1st prototype has flew no weapons testing no radar testing etc etc has been done yet

or Pakistan is looking to buying small numbers of J-31 and TAI TFX? to keep and east and west Combo...


but still 7-8 years left for these plane to go in production stage...



True we need some Flankers for coastal areas and J-10's to replace our ageing Mirages ...
Flankers not j10s j16s.

J16s will give us the advantage of vlraams vlraam type arms large anti ship missiles etc longer range etc
 
Well I guess Pakistan needs 80+ J31 and at least 30-40 J-20s while some trucks like JH7b and J-16s... Perhaps in future some TFX A/Cs too.

The Pakistan Air Force (PAF) showed interest in buying fourth generation stealth fighter aircraft FC-31 from China.
Is it the deliberate attempt or mistake. That is very idiot of OP.. no stealth A/C is a 4th gen..It is a proper 5th gen A/C and its subsequent versions will be 5.5 gen.
 
Is it the deliberate attempt or mistake. That is very idiot of OP.. no stealth A/C is a 4th gen..It is a proper 5th gen A/C and its subsequent versions will be 5.5 gen.
OP just posted and article with out reading.
 
Well I guess Pakistan needs 80+ J31 and at least 30-40 J-20s while some trucks like JH7b and J-16s... Perhaps in future some TFX A/Cs too.


Is it the deliberate attempt or mistake. That is very idiot of OP.. no stealth A/C is a 4th gen..It is a proper 5th gen A/C and its subsequent versions will be 5.5 gen.

Not a mistake. The Chinese number their planes a generation behind. In their reasoning, F-35 will be a 4th generation fighter too. While the F-18 is a 3rd generation.
 
PAF J20 And J31.jpg
Jane's Weekly Nov 2 2016

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