Bangladeshi Revolution

What are the chances of there being a change in the leadership of Bangladesh to a more islamically inclined leader. I have met many Bangladeshis from the Sylhet region who hate Hasina
Some questions
How much support does Hasina actually have?
What is the best alternative and the chances?

PakistanisofBritain said:

What are the chances of there being a change in the leadership of Bangladesh to a more islamically inclined leader. I have met many Bangladeshis from the Sylhet region who hate Hasina
Some questions
How much support does Hasina actually have?
What is the best alternative and the chances?

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Pakistan is proof that religion and state do not go together. Bangladesh have done well to be a secular state. Like any other nation, Bangladesh also needs a leader that will unite its people not divide it and Hasina is a divider. But hey! they elected her so who are we to get involved.

religion and state should go together but in the right way

PakistanisofBritain said:

religion and state should go together but in the right way

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yeah only if you boy cott all multinational corporation, banned usury, throw out rothschild central bank, introduce your own currency paper and gold and silver. barter trade goods for goods internationally.
go full organic on agriculture/food. taxes on imports promote home grown. banned food exports feed your own first and change education system throw out foreign influence in the teachings / books/ videos etc and so on.

Pakistan is proof that religion and state do not go together

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First i apologize for my poor english.
This is not true.most of pakistanis don't know the real story. Bengalis never revolted against pakistan,because pakistan was founded by majority of bengali vote.
But there was a huge enemy and still is; india.
The imparity theory and exploitation theory was propogated by india. Unfortunately East pakistani( now bangladesh) leader sheikh mujib or others were not wise enough to understand the conspiracy of india.
Still we have a book named ,"Tajuddin;leader & father" written by his own daughter sharmin ahmed. She wrote that mujib did not declare any independence.
Tajuddin asked him to do that but he asked tajuddin to sleep happily and also informed that he ( mujib) called for a strike or hartal.

Anyway i believe that mujib was surrounded by indian agents and failed to control the separatists and surendered to army, so that the army can control the situation.
But was pakistani government aware of upcoming war imposed by india? No right? Yaahiya khan completely failed to understand the great war strategy of india. And it cost the dividation of the biggest Muslim nation.
Bengalis lost their homeland pakistan, because of the failure of yahyah khan's failure to understand the indian planing of a great war to cut pakistan.
or was it ISI who was defeated by R&AW? so it failed to guess the war plan of india against pakistan under the cover of unrest in east pakistan.

And the failure of ISI made us bangladeshi ( former east pakistani) a cultural and mental colony of india. What a pity, majority bengali vote created the land of purity pakistan, and for failure of the state bengali became homless.
Now bangladesh is facing terrible threat.
India tv channels are washing brain of our youth.they are becoming nominally muslim, secularism trying to dominate and all anti islamic cultures are propagated by india as bengali culture.islamic modesty is diminishing by the propaganda of traitor seculars who are actually the paid agents of india. Media is under control of india and government is a type of hostage to media.
Still most of peoples here love islam and even love their pakistani brothers. But with a spoiled idea that west pakistan made mistake by depriving us.

Maybe in future many of them will become anti pakistani and anti islamic too because of indian cultural colonization.

Only allah can help us. And yes until we bengalis get freedom from indian aggravations, allah will not forgive the pakistan governmen's failure to understand the war plan of india and protect the motherland pakistan. the result is majority pakistani (bengali) are captured and lost freedom to india. Yes we are indipendant nominally ,but not in reality. Even PM sheikh hasina once said that bangladesh became a market to india.
Peoples may blame sheikh hasina because of Alaince with india. But i believe tht when enemy is strong you even need to praise the enemy,so that you can be prepared.
Do not forget the treaty of hudaybia;even rasulullah sallallahu alaihisalam himself made the treaty.
Anyway not only west but former east pakistanis were also the true pakistani, perhaps over true.so yes religion is enough of the foundation of a state .but you know its hard to hold the freedom than get the freedom.
Pakistan get the freedom in 47 with the qurbani of our ancestors, but failed to hold it totaly so more than half pakistani ( bengali) lost independent to india.
Yes culturally, and forcibly by propaganda.

I can't provide link at that moment because i am not allowed by the forum.
But the book dead reckoning of sharmila bose is a great reference.

I was born 20 years after creation of Bangladesh in 1990s...
when I was about 13 or 14 , I found about bangladesh separation from Pakistan and I wept all day long...
I asked my grand father about the whole incident , while telling me he has tears in his eyes ...so is the case with my father ...if you ask old people who have witnessed this terrible incident , they lost control and weep...
now what is done is done....
Pakistan has no ambition about anything related to Bangladesh , we are far apart and busy in our own country problems....
but one thing that pained me is that Pakistan and Bangladesh is not friendly at all .... Being friendly with Pakistan doesn't mean they have to compromise their soverenity ....

Current attack happen in Bangladesh by Isis , and Indian media started this fake news about Pakistan's involvement, which later even Bangladeshi government denies , that Pakistan has nothing to do with the attack ... But some how India media makes their public belief on fake and false lie that some how Pakistan was involved .... Later hassena denied attending saarc conference in Pakistan on the orders of her Indian masters .....

the 2nd thing is the extra judicial killings of poor Bangladeshi jamat I islami leaders ......those are faithful to Bangladesh yet love Pakistan , they are against the creation of Bangladesh in the past but now they are living in it as Bangladeshi ...
they are only hanged for their love of Pakistan ...
it is always a shame for Pakistan politician's that we are not able to save those martyrs ...

we both are separate nations now , India has divided us but cannot remove the love among the people .... All those Bangladeshi I have met love Pakistan ..

when we talk about our grief , how can we forget about their grief....
now I hope this brutal regime go , and some new regime comes in next elections...
both of our countries can live as brothers .....no other country in the world has the kind of bond we two have .... Our two countries are born from the same blood ...and so they should have the best of relations' .....

Pakistansdefender said:

I asked my grand father about the whole incident , while telling me he has tears in his eyes ...so is the case with my father ...if you ask old people who have witnessed this terrible incident , they lost control and weep...

but one thing that pained me is that Pakistan and Bangladesh is not friendly at all .... Being friendly with Pakistan doesn't mean they have to compromise their soverenity

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My brother, bangladesh has 165 million peoples,and 150 millions are muslim.most of bangali muslim love pakistan. Did you see the huge support for pakistani cricket?
Yes at that moment it looks bangladesh and pakistan the two state are not strong ally, but believe me it is either a political game or only a strategy.
Yes some negative ideas also play a big role i admit as indian propaganda is terrible you know.

Current attack happen in Bangladesh by Isis , and Indian media started this fake news about Pakistan's involvement, which later even Bangladeshi government denies , that Pakistan has nothing to do with the attack ... But some how India media makes their public belief on fake and false lie that some how Pakistan was involved .... Later hassena denied attending saarc conference in Pakistan on the orders of her Indian masters .....

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We all know it brother that Pakistan has nothing to do with the attack.
Even you confess that bangladesh govt also deny that. Yet why hasina did not join saarc? I hope you got the answer.maybe hasina is maintaining good relation with india,and thats why she is not supporting pakistan, as i said our government has been hostage always.
But situation will improve. I believe maybe my idea will not be acceptable by most of peoples,but you know we(bangladesh) are are in serious threat,both culturally and politically. so for balancing the situation maybe she is doing so.it is my opinin only.

And one thing i can bet though i can't prove but surely india is not her master.i believe she will make changes.maybe she is just compromising. Because we can't openly fight the giant.
pakistan can fight india but we have no ability. So if i consider it as a strategy don't i have a point? . But what is the reality only allah knows best.

the 2nd thing is the extra judicial killings of poor Bangladeshi jamat I islami leaders ......those are faithful to Bangladesh yet love Pakistan , they are against the creation of Bangladesh in the past but now they are living in it as Bangladeshi ...

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My friend it is a political killing i believe.do you know why? When hasina came to power in 1996 there were no war criminals because sheikh mujib forgave all of so called war criminals.
But the biggest mistake jamaat islam made and that is alaince with BNP. and now in order to survive awami league is doing so.and my friend , BNP is a continueation of muslim league ,but trust me they hold no honor, no political heritage, no ideal of Muslim league. But they are getting the votes of Muslim league supporters from bangladesh under the banner of BNP but BNP did nothing good but looting peoples.
As example, during BNP jamat regime electric powercut was so bad that we even suffered 12-15 our loadsheding every day.here bangladeshi BNP supporters will now attack on me but i am the victim of loadsheding like many others.
But Bengalis forgot lots of thing,led by hype and emotion.they are devided in to awami league and BNP, instead of being bangladeshi.
So if B.N.P come to power again it will be a ptoblem again. In one eleven we were about to face another civil war. And in 2014 too.but indeed we need another political party who will be the right alternative of muslim league unlike BNP.

Remeber mujib didnt betray against pakistan, but as army major Ziaur Rahman did along with some spoiled officers, and it is a deadly crime against united pakistan you know.
Again what we see with bare eyes are not reality always.BNP used islam as weapon to get vote, so awami league was compelled to take the so called freedom fight supporting strategy ( i don't believe in freedom fight,but i do believe that it was india pakistan war to break pakistan).
Lets see what happen in next 2 decade. The world politics is very complex you know.

we both are separate nations now ,India has divided us but cannot remove the love among the people .... All those Bangladeshi I have met love Pakistan ..

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Indeed my brother. 2 son of one mother pakistan; east and west pakistan.
If two brothers set seperate family even with the propaganda of enemy, won't they love each other? They will do.
So we love you my brother, will always love inshallah because we are same blood brothers.

now I hope this brutal regime go , and some new regime comes in next elections...
both of our countries can live as brothers .....no other country in the world has the kind of bond we two have .... Our two countries are born from the same blood ...and so they should have the best of relations' .....

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My brother who knows the regime will once proved to be very useful for our brotherhood. As i said lets wait 1 or two decade.
Again i believe that jamaat leaders are martyrs and Hasina was helpless, there were no other way to get vote. Political killing is wrong but some times qurbani maybe necessary.
I personally consider them martyr ,it is interesting and weried isnt it? I am takng the side of Hasina and yet declaring jamat leaders as martyrs against indian aggravation?
Do not forget the jang jamal,where sahabas was against sahaba, but does that mean that any sahaba is bad?
Abdur rahman bin abu bakar killed uthman bin affan right? Both were sahabas. Zubayer fought against Ali; ayesha did so.do.these battles make them bad? No brother not that. They were victims of kharijite fitna, now maybe the same case is happening.both are victims of indian fitna.
As rasulullah said about the gazway hind.i believe that it has begun in 1947, and it will not end soon. But allah will help us inshallah.we are same blood brothers, my brother, and will be together always, inshallah