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when we will find them we can ask them to get rid of Daesh and TTP first and then stay in iran or Afghanistan and take out any organisation that plans attacks on our mosques schools army bases and beheads our soldiers.

no shia force ahmedi force or Christian force can do any damage to Pakistan when a wahabi forces of TTP and all its takfiri outfits are present in Pakistan and have not really made us to panic and best of all.my blasphemy killing lynch commandos of khadim rizvi will not leave anyone alive in the end if any one escapes all other sectarian religious or ethnic terrorists.

I am just worried that when minorities also start making armed groups like this then be prepared for Ahmedi force and Christian force as well which shows the failure of state to protect its minorities and enabling Arabs and their Indian and israeli friends to to create trouble and Iranians creating their groups to fight saudi proxies.

in short
we are doomed
just pray that we dont hear about Ahmedi force. we have killed their doctors teachers and traders over blasphemy charges and for being alive in Pakistan. when theu will pickup arms then it will be over for Pakistan
provided if wahabi or shia terrorists have left anything in Pakistan.

china is ensuring that common economic interests with Iran and Pakistan bring us together with mutual security as paramount.
those who don't like china and its investment in Pakistan and iran are using religious and ethnic violence to stop the progress.
It is fact Takfiri groups are extremely active and very few sane voices raising voice against them. Not even in Pakistan. Never seen mainstream media or prayer leaders challenging there atrocities. I think this Turkish national news outlet targeting Pakistani shia due to prolonged war in Syria ... I would say " Pakistanis be careful ". Pakistan foreign policy is stuck between Turkey and Saudi Arabia rift.
 
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Why dont their Shia brothers in Azerbaijan send them an invitation request? i know why- cuz they're busy inviting ISraeli intelligence and extremist Sunnis from Syria that Turkey will transport to help them.
Creating a state within a State for leverage is an indo persian doctrine that you don't have to teach Pakistanis.
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The center of influence historically resided with Iraq. Over the past 40 years, the accelerated gain Qom has achieved largely is due to Iraq not being a country anymore thanks to US led invasion helped by Iran.

Pakistan may be susceptible to sectarian tensions but ideologically she has all the answers any group comes up with.

The Pakistani Nation will never agree upon an error.
 

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that is agree with you, I mean just look at this forum as example, not everyone is kaffir ,but those who worship Ali RA, Hussain RA , Horse , believe 40 chapters of Quran eaten by sheep , or people who believe Mirza Qadiyan is Prophet , and those who believe Agha Khan is walking Quran are all absolutely kaffir , not according to me, but according the Quran itself . I understand as a Shia you have to come up with something to justify your Zainabiyuns , but as i said it does prove my point we have more Loyal Iranians and Saudi's in Pakistan than their countries, and when these poor dumb Idiots go to Tehran and Riyad they are treated worse than trash, but our people are ready to lick their feet , and serve them .. I feel sorry for them, Islam teaches me to serve none other than Allah, but Shiasim and Sunnism teaches these brain dead scum to serve Ayatullah and Mullah's , this is why we are doomed :)
lol must be a very desperate sheep. the other thing is that you missed out the mst serious charge against shias which is that they have some massive orgies during their congregations. thats something that really made me jealous as a sunni and i thought why we had to live with our hands until we got married while shia men of my age got all the alleged joys of life.

News report and evidence suggest Shias does lot more than love for Iran and mostly at the cost of Pakistan's interest.
While Sunni is a wide term, as far Pakistan goes. I don't know if any single one of them love Saudi Arabia.... you are welcome to point at one single sect. of Pakistan who loves Saudi Arabia.


Pakistani Shia are actually Khumenists, while Shia on other places of world are not infected with Khumenisim.
dont point out the ones that are not khumenised yet or else the Iranian agents will infect them too
The people who think those fighters wont return are delusional. Those fighters have already started to return when covid started. If any of u have links with security guys in balochistan and sindh, then ask them. Soon ull see rise in sectarian conflicts.
you meant rise in shia covid virus :)
 
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Iran is just as dangerous for Pakistan as Saudis have been, most people like to close their eyes and dream religious harmony where shias of Iran are welcoming them in their country showering flowers on them or Sunnis of Saudis are offering them Petrol drinks. lets for once open your eyes and smell the reality. For starter name one Sunni country Saudis are friends with or are trusted by, similarly name one Shia or Sunni country Iranis are trusted by (proxies excluded). Everyone for them self, fcuk Muslim brotherhood (at state level) and look after your interests. When someone tries to open your eyes its Always an Indian or Israeli trying to create rift between long lost Muslim brothers of Iran/Saudia and Pakistanis. Both Iran and Saudia are responsible for the murders of millions of Muslims. Look at the recent example, Iran is backing Armenia against Azerbiajan which is a Shia country....but I am sure Iranians love Pakistani Shias and will always come for your support.

Hi,

Saudia is not as dangerous to pakistan like Iran---.

Saudis may do some not so good things---but they also help us with all our needs---.

The Iranians are extremely ruthless and brutal. All they need from us is human flesh to fight their proxy wars. And it is so easy to RILE UP the shiite community in pakistan.

Case in point---Iraq Iran war---which was just a real estate war but iranian the recruiters gave it a religious color to recruit from pakistan---.
 
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ANALYSIS - Iran-backed Zainabiyoun Brigade could become Pakistan’s new national security problem
Could it be a wake-up call for Pakistan that battle-hardened militants trained by Iranian Revolutionary Guards and Quds force might be returning to Pakistan as Iran’s pawns?
Aydin Guven |05.11.2020


Iran, in an effort to develop strict security policies as the events that broke out in Tunisia at the end of 2010 spread across the Middle East in a short time, not only increased its influence in countries with a predominantly Shi’a population but also its leverage on determining the fate of conflicts in Syria and Yemen that Iranian-backed groups were involved in.

After the Assad regime suffered heavy losses against opponents, Iran became directly involved in the Syrian civil war under the guise of protecting sites considered sacred in Shiism. But, on suffering heavy casualties and receiving scathing criticisms, Tehran created many mercenary groups through the Iranian Revolutionary Guards Corps (IRGC) and Quds Forces.

These groups include the Fatemiyoun Brigade, which is reputed to have a large number of fighters recruited from among Afghani Shi’as, and the Zainabiyoun Brigade, designated as a striking force, whose membership is estimated at somewhere between two and five thousand, consisting of Pakistani Shias.

The Revolutionary Guards first invited the Lebanese Hezbollah to Syria in 2012. Later, approximately 15 groups, including those comprised of Afghan and Pakistani Shias, were armed and immediately dispatched to the battleground. These groups had a strong impact on the current state of the Syrian civil war and the Assad regime’s gaining the upper hand.

So far, everything seems normal in the context of Iran’s Shia-oriented policies. However, the need for these armed groups is gradually decreasing, with the real issue now becoming what will eventually become of them. One of these recruited-mercenary groups organized by the Iranian Revolutionary Guards, the Zainabiyoun Brigade is of particular concern in this regard, as members of this armed group, with a lot of fighting experience, are likely to pose a threat to Pakistan’s national security in the future.



Pakistan and sectarian issues

The Shia-Sunni conflict in Pakistan is almost sure to flare up every year in the month of Muharram [the first month of the Islamic lunar calendar in which the heartrending Karbala Massacre took place in the year 680 AH]. This flaring up is usually the result of either an attack in areas with a large Shia population or provocative comments or statements made by Shiite clerics.

Last Muharram, a Shia cleric using provocative and insulting language on a TV program about the first three caliphs of Prophet Muhammad (the three who preceded Ali, the first Shia imam) once again ratcheted up the tension in Pakistan. A series of brawls between the Shia and Sunni groups in the country ensured the spread of the video footage of the cleric’s provocative comments on social media.

With a large number of precedents in the past, this constant friction begs the question of whether a sectarian conflict might occur in Pakistan large enough to endanger its internal security and trigger instability in the country. This religious fanaticism and the sectarian elements in Pakistan can be safely traced back to the Iranian Revolution in 1979. Right after the revolution, the Shiites in the Pakistani town of Bakkar established a movement to implement the Ja’fari interpretation of Islamic Law.

The leader of this group was Arif Hussain al-Hussaini, a student of the Iranian Revolution leader, Ayatollah Khomeini. Supported by Iran, al-Hussaini tried to create a sphere of influence capitalizing on the networks he was affiliated with in Pakistan as well as the favorable circumstances and the overall ideological atmosphere engendered by the Iranian Revolution.

In Pakistani madrasahs, al-Hussaini used a curriculum that was pursuing a policy in favor of the Iranian Revolution and directing their youth to go to Iran to receive all kinds of education. Al-Hussaini was also trying to lead the efforts to import Iran’s revolutionary ideology into Pakistan. His efforts took on a different dimension with the establishment of the Zainabiyoun Brigade.

Years of training and the networks forged paid off, and Iran started to recruit militants from Pakistan very easily. Therefore, the efforts of al-Hussaini began to be seen as elemental in the forming of the Zainabiyoun Brigade, which has been used by Iran in the Syrian civil war.

However, it is not surprising that Pakistani Shia militants are used in Syria as fighters. Although approximately 80 to 85 % of the population in Pakistan are Sunnis, who adhere to various Sunni Islamic schools of thought (Deobandis, Barelvis, Sufis and Salafis/Wahhabis), Iran-backed Shia organizations also wield significant influence.



Pakistan has been a scene of sectarian violence between Sunnis and Shias -- in which Iran is also thought to have a hand -- since a number of incidents first occurred between two communities in 1986. It is stated that in the nearly three thousand sectarian attacks that have taken place to date, around 10 thousand have lost their lives.



The Zainabiyoun Brigade

The Zainabiyoun Brigade, which came to the forefront due to the high casualties they suffered in the UAV and armed UAV attacks carried out by the Turkish Armed Forces in the Idlib operation, is a terrorist group consisting of Pakistani Shiites, based mostly around Aleppo and Damascus.

It was revealed that the Pakistani Shia militias, who previously acted individually, were organized under the name ‘Zainabiyoun Brigade’ in 2014 following a missile attack by the Salafi militias on the Shrine of Sayyida Zaynab in Damascus in 2012. According to the Tehran administration, protecting the Shrine of Sayyida Zaynab against attacks is the main reason this group is in Syria.

The group, which got its name from Prophet Mohammad’s cousin and son-in-law Ali’s daughter Zaynab, -- as previously noted -- consists of Pakistani Shiites recruited by Iran with various promises. The members of this group are much more educated than other Iranian-backed organizations. The majority of them are students coming from Pakistan to Iran for education or “pilgrims” who come to perform Shiite rituals.

Al-Mustafa International University, located in the city of Qom in Iran, is one of the most important recruitment centers where a lot of Pakistani students join the ranks of the Zainabiyoun Brigade.

Although the group currently has an estimated number of between two to five thousand militants, Pakistani intelligence officials state that the group’s actual number of fighters recruited from Pakistan could be much higher. The majority of the members of the Zainabiyoun Brigade come from the Shia-dominated Parachinar in the Kurram district of the Federally Administered Tribal Area (FATA), where Pakistan’s government control is weak. The employers of Pakistani fighters in Syria are the Iranian Revolutionary Guards and the Quds Force, which, needless to say, support the Syrian regime.



Iran’s main tools: Poverty and ideology

Looking at the studies, poverty and ideological motivations seem to be the main reasons for fighting on Iran’s side. While Iran promises jobs and an income, especially to the poor Shiite population that took refuge in this country, it also abuses faith as a tool of sectarian-ideological exploitation.

The Shia propaganda made by Iran to increase enlistment in the Zaynabiyyoun Brigade for ideological reasons has significant influence. By laying emphasis on the religious shrines and graves targeted and desacralized by Daesh, especially in the civil war, Iran also arouses hatred against the Sunni groups fighting on the side of the opposition in Syria and persuades people to fight voluntarily in the name of protecting Shiite values.

Realizing that using such tactics makes it easier to influence the Shia youth who are generally more prone to fall prey to ideology, Tehran uses all kinds of propaganda to recruit Shiite militia. The promise that those who die in the war will be regarded as martyrs and be buried in Iran’s holy city of Qom is also used as an ideological tool.

Another trump card of Iran is its ability to turn poverty into an opportunity. The poor among the Shia who took refuge in Iran are offered citizenship, jobs and a steady income for themselves and their families, and thus feel obliged to agree to fight on conditions that Iran imposes. Otherwise, they face deportation. Pakistani fighters are offered an average monthly salary of around 120,000 rupees ($ 700-750) in return for fighting under given conditions, and are even promised 15-day holidays after three months.

All kinds of training, and any essential needs, of the militias who have been persuaded to fight are organized and met by the Quds Force, which operates under direct orders from the Revolutionary Guards.

In response to the establishment of the Zainabiyoun Brigade, anti-Shia attacks began to occur in Pakistan. For example, at the end of 2015, more than 20 people lost their lives and many were injured in an explosion that took place in the center of Parachinar, where the Shiite community in the Kurram district of the Federally Administered Tribal Area constitute the majority.

Lashkar-e-Jhangvi, a violent anti-Shia group, claimed responsibility for the attack. Ali Abu Sufyan, the spokesperson of the group, said that the purpose of the attack was “to take revenge for the crimes Iran and Assad committed against Syrian Muslims” and added that he had warned the people of Parachinar to stop going to Iran to join the ranks of Assad and also stop sending militants there.

And after this attack, many others have taken place in cities with a predominantly Shia population, in addition to ongoing efforts to spread the clashes, which mostly take place every year in the month of Muharram, throughout the country.



Militant groups and Pakistan's national security

The dynamics in Syria have changed rapidly in recent times and the need for terror groups formed of recruited mercenaries has also decreased. This situation creates uncertainties about the fate of the Zainabiyoun Brigade and how Iran is likely to position itself with regard to it. Pakistani intelligence service has noted time and again that the number of fighters who fought in Syria at one time and returned to Pakistan is high, and that some among them tried to enter the country illegally.

The main problem stems from Pakistan’s failure to put in place the necessary measures up to this point. The question of what will happen when these militants return to Pakistan is one that perturbs security experts. Could it be a wake-up call for Pakistan that battle-hardened militants trained by the Iranian Revolutionary Guards and the Quds Force might actually be returning to Pakistan as Iran’s pawns?

Apart from the security problems they will cause for Pakistan in the future, the group’s presence has already become a big bone of contention in Pakistan. If we need to list the dangers that these militants may pose; primarily these people can have an ideological influence on the youth. These militants, who will somehow return to Pakistan, will represent Iran’s “supply chain”, so to speak, and network in the region.

The second danger is that these militants will be able to reopen Pakistan’s sensitive sectarian wounds when they are instructed to do so and trigger instability in the region. In this way, Tehran will be able to interfere in Pakistan’s internal affairs whenever it feels is necessary and continue the proxy game in the region.

Islamabad, on the other hand, behaving very negligently in this regard, neither banned groups and organizations calling on young Pakistanis to join the Zainabiyoun Brigade, nor developed a strict policy with regard to Tehran’s use of Pakistan as some kind of supply warehouse of militants.

Although it is known that Iran recruits militants from Pakistan, the Islamabad administration’s unwillingness to officially react to the situation concerns security experts. This attitude of Pakistan boils down to a number of hard facts on the ground. The first is the fact that Pakistan has long been in an economic strain. Pakistan, which normally sides with Saudi Arabia mainly for economic reasons, feels cornered due to the deterioration of relations with Riyadh recently.

This being the case, it is highly likely that Islamabad wants to avoid doing any harm to its relations with Iran by openly speaking against the Zaynabiyoun Brigade. The second is that Islamabad would hate to see Iran slipping into the Indian axis in the event it caused a deterioration in its relations with Tehran. For this reason, it is avoiding any statements about this issue at a diplomatic level for the time being.

But as time wears on, Islamabad’s overlooking the developments and not taking measures in due time carries the risk of further increasing sectarian tensions that often cause violence in the country.

According to Pakistani security experts, it is clear that Iran has an undeniable role in the events taking place in Pakistan. According to them, Iran’s role cannot be denied either in the case of Kulbhushan Yadav, who is said to be a soldier in the Indian Navy and a spy of the Indian Intelligence captured on the Pakistan-Iran border, or in the case of the fleeing of Uzayr Baluj (a national of both Pakistan and Iran, who assassinated many people and is also involved in many organized crimes) to Iran over the Chabahar Port during the operation Pakistan launched to capture him.

In addition, while all this is happening, the fact that the Zainabiyoun Brigade has not been criticized seriously in the Pakistani media is very conspicuous. Since no official statement has come from the government to date, the Pakistani media also avoids taking up the issue. However, if the citizens of a country, which is vulnerable to sectarian conflicts, are assigned by another country to fight in its name, the media has a responsibility to keep this issue on the agenda and to investigate it in the contexts of security and society.

Moreover, it is a fact that Iran has not fully used its influence in Pakistan in sectarian conflicts up until today. With the withdrawal of the US forces from Afghanistan, however, it is predicted that Iran will come to have the influence to an extent that can threaten the regional balances. An alarming situation that vindicates these predictions is that after the killing of Qasim Suleimani, Ismail Ghani was appointed as the new commander of the Quds Force, a division primarily responsible for extraterritorial military operations.

Before becoming the head of the Quds force, Ghani was closely involved in recruiting militants from Pakistan and Afghanistan, as well as their transport to Iran and training. The fact that Ghani has wide networks in the region and knows the region very well is an issue that worries security experts, because many find it highly likely that Iran would not shy away from using the trained and experienced militants in the Zainabiyoun Brigade in a likely sectarian conflict in Pakistan.
what is this brigade.
 

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We need to learn lesson from Turkey , we produce Record amount of Cement/Concrete

a) We need a high quality barrier as Turkey did with Syria
b) Prevent number of weapons / persons crossing over from Afghanistan
c) Stop illegal crossing over from Iran/Afghanistan unless they come thru checkpoint

 
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This is such a bullshit article written by an Israeli, anti-Iran warmongers are back to spew their shit and drink poison from Pompeo and Bolton. Do not post Israeli propaganda on this site.

Cannot say I am surprised that you are back again to divide Pakistanis and Iranians. Anti-Iran people like you are worse than cancerous to Pakistan which needs stability for the economy so we can expand CPEC and IP pipeline to Iran.
Don't worry , he always pick any article which is related to Shia of Pakistan and Iran. Even now he picked this Turkish media. But posting such news in Turkish national media is understandable ..its due to defeat of Turkish backed forces in Syria ... So anything which cause of defeat is now addressing in Turkish govt media.
On contrary KSA , UAE or rest of arabs are now ready to cooperate any group which raised armed against Turkish backed forces in Syria...
So, Pakistan is victim of his own friends ... these winds of hate are blowing from far away land. Some people in this forum trying hard to defend the past terrorism in this country, due to religious affiliations ....
But proudly, shia never raised armed and will never raised arm against people or state of Pakistan. Because our forefather build this country.
 

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STOP DRINKING INDIAN AND ISRAELI PROPGANDA. DO NOT POST ISRAELI PROPOGANDA ON THIS SITE

Pakistan has common interests with Iran.

India and Israel are both enemies of Pakistan and it is in their interest to divide Iran and Pakistan with these stupid conspiracy articles and fuckers like you are falling for it. People like you are a disgrace who will destabilize our region by spreading this cancerous mentality of making an enemy out of Iran. Pakistan's only true friends are China and Iran.
Pakistan is for Pakistanis who only look for ruthless own national interests, where no one else matter.

Zainbyoun is directly controlled by IRGC, which is no Pakistani state entity. IS THAT CLEAR TO YOU???? I dont need Indians, Israeli or any other nationality to tell me how much big threat is that to my nation's internal national security.

Before you lose your crap, I held the same view about any such militia within the borders of Pakistan who might be getting funding/influence by GCC.

Iran is not friend of Pakistan, these fkers are neck deep in sponsoring terrorism alongside India in Pakistan, Kulbashan yadev is a living example of this. Are you going to deny that as well, call it Israeli conspiracy?

Only deal with them when its heavily in our interest, like CPEC extension into Iran , while keeping a Hawkeye on these Persian as they are slippery lot and can backstab anytime.
 
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Every one of us know about a young man around, who in yester years went to Iran /Iraq /Syria.
However Imran Khan wasn't aware of it, when he was touring grave of Khumeni. View attachment 686748


He can say anything, but we should know the real game, which was brought to us by confession videos of Kulbhoshan Yadeve.
You being a saudi tout and Nawaz traitor lapdog, are not qualified to speak on the subject. Shall I post the pics of IK driving car for your lord MBS???? Grow up.
 

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ANALYSIS - Iran-backed Zainabiyoun Brigade could become Pakistan’s new national security problem
Could it be a wake-up call for Pakistan that battle-hardened militants trained by Iranian Revolutionary Guards and Quds force might be returning to Pakistan as Iran’s pawns?
Aydin Guven |05.11.2020


Iran, in an effort to develop strict security policies as the events that broke out in Tunisia at the end of 2010 spread across the Middle East in a short time, not only increased its influence in countries with a predominantly Shi’a population but also its leverage on determining the fate of conflicts in Syria and Yemen that Iranian-backed groups were involved in.

After the Assad regime suffered heavy losses against opponents, Iran became directly involved in the Syrian civil war under the guise of protecting sites considered sacred in Shiism. But, on suffering heavy casualties and receiving scathing criticisms, Tehran created many mercenary groups through the Iranian Revolutionary Guards Corps (IRGC) and Quds Forces.

These groups include the Fatemiyoun Brigade, which is reputed to have a large number of fighters recruited from among Afghani Shi’as, and the Zainabiyoun Brigade, designated as a striking force, whose membership is estimated at somewhere between two and five thousand, consisting of Pakistani Shias.

The Revolutionary Guards first invited the Lebanese Hezbollah to Syria in 2012. Later, approximately 15 groups, including those comprised of Afghan and Pakistani Shias, were armed and immediately dispatched to the battleground. These groups had a strong impact on the current state of the Syrian civil war and the Assad regime’s gaining the upper hand.

So far, everything seems normal in the context of Iran’s Shia-oriented policies. However, the need for these armed groups is gradually decreasing, with the real issue now becoming what will eventually become of them. One of these recruited-mercenary groups organized by the Iranian Revolutionary Guards, the Zainabiyoun Brigade is of particular concern in this regard, as members of this armed group, with a lot of fighting experience, are likely to pose a threat to Pakistan’s national security in the future.



Pakistan and sectarian issues

The Shia-Sunni conflict in Pakistan is almost sure to flare up every year in the month of Muharram [the first month of the Islamic lunar calendar in which the heartrending Karbala Massacre took place in the year 680 AH]. This flaring up is usually the result of either an attack in areas with a large Shia population or provocative comments or statements made by Shiite clerics.

Last Muharram, a Shia cleric using provocative and insulting language on a TV program about the first three caliphs of Prophet Muhammad (the three who preceded Ali, the first Shia imam) once again ratcheted up the tension in Pakistan. A series of brawls between the Shia and Sunni groups in the country ensured the spread of the video footage of the cleric’s provocative comments on social media.

With a large number of precedents in the past, this constant friction begs the question of whether a sectarian conflict might occur in Pakistan large enough to endanger its internal security and trigger instability in the country. This religious fanaticism and the sectarian elements in Pakistan can be safely traced back to the Iranian Revolution in 1979. Right after the revolution, the Shiites in the Pakistani town of Bakkar established a movement to implement the Ja’fari interpretation of Islamic Law.

The leader of this group was Arif Hussain al-Hussaini, a student of the Iranian Revolution leader, Ayatollah Khomeini. Supported by Iran, al-Hussaini tried to create a sphere of influence capitalizing on the networks he was affiliated with in Pakistan as well as the favorable circumstances and the overall ideological atmosphere engendered by the Iranian Revolution.

In Pakistani madrasahs, al-Hussaini used a curriculum that was pursuing a policy in favor of the Iranian Revolution and directing their youth to go to Iran to receive all kinds of education. Al-Hussaini was also trying to lead the efforts to import Iran’s revolutionary ideology into Pakistan. His efforts took on a different dimension with the establishment of the Zainabiyoun Brigade.

Years of training and the networks forged paid off, and Iran started to recruit militants from Pakistan very easily. Therefore, the efforts of al-Hussaini began to be seen as elemental in the forming of the Zainabiyoun Brigade, which has been used by Iran in the Syrian civil war.

However, it is not surprising that Pakistani Shia militants are used in Syria as fighters. Although approximately 80 to 85 % of the population in Pakistan are Sunnis, who adhere to various Sunni Islamic schools of thought (Deobandis, Barelvis, Sufis and Salafis/Wahhabis), Iran-backed Shia organizations also wield significant influence.



Pakistan has been a scene of sectarian violence between Sunnis and Shias -- in which Iran is also thought to have a hand -- since a number of incidents first occurred between two communities in 1986. It is stated that in the nearly three thousand sectarian attacks that have taken place to date, around 10 thousand have lost their lives.



The Zainabiyoun Brigade

The Zainabiyoun Brigade, which came to the forefront due to the high casualties they suffered in the UAV and armed UAV attacks carried out by the Turkish Armed Forces in the Idlib operation, is a terrorist group consisting of Pakistani Shiites, based mostly around Aleppo and Damascus.

It was revealed that the Pakistani Shia militias, who previously acted individually, were organized under the name ‘Zainabiyoun Brigade’ in 2014 following a missile attack by the Salafi militias on the Shrine of Sayyida Zaynab in Damascus in 2012. According to the Tehran administration, protecting the Shrine of Sayyida Zaynab against attacks is the main reason this group is in Syria.

The group, which got its name from Prophet Mohammad’s cousin and son-in-law Ali’s daughter Zaynab, -- as previously noted -- consists of Pakistani Shiites recruited by Iran with various promises. The members of this group are much more educated than other Iranian-backed organizations. The majority of them are students coming from Pakistan to Iran for education or “pilgrims” who come to perform Shiite rituals.

Al-Mustafa International University, located in the city of Qom in Iran, is one of the most important recruitment centers where a lot of Pakistani students join the ranks of the Zainabiyoun Brigade.

Although the group currently has an estimated number of between two to five thousand militants, Pakistani intelligence officials state that the group’s actual number of fighters recruited from Pakistan could be much higher. The majority of the members of the Zainabiyoun Brigade come from the Shia-dominated Parachinar in the Kurram district of the Federally Administered Tribal Area (FATA), where Pakistan’s government control is weak. The employers of Pakistani fighters in Syria are the Iranian Revolutionary Guards and the Quds Force, which, needless to say, support the Syrian regime.



Iran’s main tools: Poverty and ideology

Looking at the studies, poverty and ideological motivations seem to be the main reasons for fighting on Iran’s side. While Iran promises jobs and an income, especially to the poor Shiite population that took refuge in this country, it also abuses faith as a tool of sectarian-ideological exploitation.

The Shia propaganda made by Iran to increase enlistment in the Zaynabiyyoun Brigade for ideological reasons has significant influence. By laying emphasis on the religious shrines and graves targeted and desacralized by Daesh, especially in the civil war, Iran also arouses hatred against the Sunni groups fighting on the side of the opposition in Syria and persuades people to fight voluntarily in the name of protecting Shiite values.

Realizing that using such tactics makes it easier to influence the Shia youth who are generally more prone to fall prey to ideology, Tehran uses all kinds of propaganda to recruit Shiite militia. The promise that those who die in the war will be regarded as martyrs and be buried in Iran’s holy city of Qom is also used as an ideological tool.

Another trump card of Iran is its ability to turn poverty into an opportunity. The poor among the Shia who took refuge in Iran are offered citizenship, jobs and a steady income for themselves and their families, and thus feel obliged to agree to fight on conditions that Iran imposes. Otherwise, they face deportation. Pakistani fighters are offered an average monthly salary of around 120,000 rupees ($ 700-750) in return for fighting under given conditions, and are even promised 15-day holidays after three months.

All kinds of training, and any essential needs, of the militias who have been persuaded to fight are organized and met by the Quds Force, which operates under direct orders from the Revolutionary Guards.

In response to the establishment of the Zainabiyoun Brigade, anti-Shia attacks began to occur in Pakistan. For example, at the end of 2015, more than 20 people lost their lives and many were injured in an explosion that took place in the center of Parachinar, where the Shiite community in the Kurram district of the Federally Administered Tribal Area constitute the majority.

Lashkar-e-Jhangvi, a violent anti-Shia group, claimed responsibility for the attack. Ali Abu Sufyan, the spokesperson of the group, said that the purpose of the attack was “to take revenge for the crimes Iran and Assad committed against Syrian Muslims” and added that he had warned the people of Parachinar to stop going to Iran to join the ranks of Assad and also stop sending militants there.

And after this attack, many others have taken place in cities with a predominantly Shia population, in addition to ongoing efforts to spread the clashes, which mostly take place every year in the month of Muharram, throughout the country.



Militant groups and Pakistan's national security

The dynamics in Syria have changed rapidly in recent times and the need for terror groups formed of recruited mercenaries has also decreased. This situation creates uncertainties about the fate of the Zainabiyoun Brigade and how Iran is likely to position itself with regard to it. Pakistani intelligence service has noted time and again that the number of fighters who fought in Syria at one time and returned to Pakistan is high, and that some among them tried to enter the country illegally.

The main problem stems from Pakistan’s failure to put in place the necessary measures up to this point. The question of what will happen when these militants return to Pakistan is one that perturbs security experts. Could it be a wake-up call for Pakistan that battle-hardened militants trained by the Iranian Revolutionary Guards and the Quds Force might actually be returning to Pakistan as Iran’s pawns?

Apart from the security problems they will cause for Pakistan in the future, the group’s presence has already become a big bone of contention in Pakistan. If we need to list the dangers that these militants may pose; primarily these people can have an ideological influence on the youth. These militants, who will somehow return to Pakistan, will represent Iran’s “supply chain”, so to speak, and network in the region.

The second danger is that these militants will be able to reopen Pakistan’s sensitive sectarian wounds when they are instructed to do so and trigger instability in the region. In this way, Tehran will be able to interfere in Pakistan’s internal affairs whenever it feels is necessary and continue the proxy game in the region.

Islamabad, on the other hand, behaving very negligently in this regard, neither banned groups and organizations calling on young Pakistanis to join the Zainabiyoun Brigade, nor developed a strict policy with regard to Tehran’s use of Pakistan as some kind of supply warehouse of militants.

Although it is known that Iran recruits militants from Pakistan, the Islamabad administration’s unwillingness to officially react to the situation concerns security experts. This attitude of Pakistan boils down to a number of hard facts on the ground. The first is the fact that Pakistan has long been in an economic strain. Pakistan, which normally sides with Saudi Arabia mainly for economic reasons, feels cornered due to the deterioration of relations with Riyadh recently.

This being the case, it is highly likely that Islamabad wants to avoid doing any harm to its relations with Iran by openly speaking against the Zaynabiyoun Brigade. The second is that Islamabad would hate to see Iran slipping into the Indian axis in the event it caused a deterioration in its relations with Tehran. For this reason, it is avoiding any statements about this issue at a diplomatic level for the time being.

But as time wears on, Islamabad’s overlooking the developments and not taking measures in due time carries the risk of further increasing sectarian tensions that often cause violence in the country.

According to Pakistani security experts, it is clear that Iran has an undeniable role in the events taking place in Pakistan. According to them, Iran’s role cannot be denied either in the case of Kulbhushan Yadav, who is said to be a soldier in the Indian Navy and a spy of the Indian Intelligence captured on the Pakistan-Iran border, or in the case of the fleeing of Uzayr Baluj (a national of both Pakistan and Iran, who assassinated many people and is also involved in many organized crimes) to Iran over the Chabahar Port during the operation Pakistan launched to capture him.

In addition, while all this is happening, the fact that the Zainabiyoun Brigade has not been criticized seriously in the Pakistani media is very conspicuous. Since no official statement has come from the government to date, the Pakistani media also avoids taking up the issue. However, if the citizens of a country, which is vulnerable to sectarian conflicts, are assigned by another country to fight in its name, the media has a responsibility to keep this issue on the agenda and to investigate it in the contexts of security and society.

Moreover, it is a fact that Iran has not fully used its influence in Pakistan in sectarian conflicts up until today. With the withdrawal of the US forces from Afghanistan, however, it is predicted that Iran will come to have the influence to an extent that can threaten the regional balances. An alarming situation that vindicates these predictions is that after the killing of Qasim Suleimani, Ismail Ghani was appointed as the new commander of the Quds Force, a division primarily responsible for extraterritorial military operations.

Before becoming the head of the Quds force, Ghani was closely involved in recruiting militants from Pakistan and Afghanistan, as well as their transport to Iran and training. The fact that Ghani has wide networks in the region and knows the region very well is an issue that worries security experts, because many find it highly likely that Iran would not shy away from using the trained and experienced militants in the Zainabiyoun Brigade in a likely sectarian conflict in Pakistan.






Sectarianism is now pretty much dead in Pakistan nowadays. The heyday was the 1980s/1990s.
I'm loving this thread!

It shows that PDF will never become an echo chamber even if all indians were permanently banned from here............ :lol:
 

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ANALYSIS - Iran-backed Zainabiyoun Brigade could become Pakistan’s new national security problem
Could it be a wake-up call for Pakistan that battle-hardened militants trained by Iranian Revolutionary Guards and Quds force might be returning to Pakistan as Iran’s pawns?
Aydin Guven |05.11.2020


Iran, in an effort to develop strict security policies as the events that broke out in Tunisia at the end of 2010 spread across the Middle East in a short time, not only increased its influence in countries with a predominantly Shi’a population but also its leverage on determining the fate of conflicts in Syria and Yemen that Iranian-backed groups were involved in.

After the Assad regime suffered heavy losses against opponents, Iran became directly involved in the Syrian civil war under the guise of protecting sites considered sacred in Shiism. But, on suffering heavy casualties and receiving scathing criticisms, Tehran created many mercenary groups through the Iranian Revolutionary Guards Corps (IRGC) and Quds Forces.

These groups include the Fatemiyoun Brigade, which is reputed to have a large number of fighters recruited from among Afghani Shi’as, and the Zainabiyoun Brigade, designated as a striking force, whose membership is estimated at somewhere between two and five thousand, consisting of Pakistani Shias.

The Revolutionary Guards first invited the Lebanese Hezbollah to Syria in 2012. Later, approximately 15 groups, including those comprised of Afghan and Pakistani Shias, were armed and immediately dispatched to the battleground. These groups had a strong impact on the current state of the Syrian civil war and the Assad regime’s gaining the upper hand.

So far, everything seems normal in the context of Iran’s Shia-oriented policies. However, the need for these armed groups is gradually decreasing, with the real issue now becoming what will eventually become of them. One of these recruited-mercenary groups organized by the Iranian Revolutionary Guards, the Zainabiyoun Brigade is of particular concern in this regard, as members of this armed group, with a lot of fighting experience, are likely to pose a threat to Pakistan’s national security in the future.



Pakistan and sectarian issues

The Shia-Sunni conflict in Pakistan is almost sure to flare up every year in the month of Muharram [the first month of the Islamic lunar calendar in which the heartrending Karbala Massacre took place in the year 680 AH]. This flaring up is usually the result of either an attack in areas with a large Shia population or provocative comments or statements made by Shiite clerics.

Last Muharram, a Shia cleric using provocative and insulting language on a TV program about the first three caliphs of Prophet Muhammad (the three who preceded Ali, the first Shia imam) once again ratcheted up the tension in Pakistan. A series of brawls between the Shia and Sunni groups in the country ensured the spread of the video footage of the cleric’s provocative comments on social media.

With a large number of precedents in the past, this constant friction begs the question of whether a sectarian conflict might occur in Pakistan large enough to endanger its internal security and trigger instability in the country. This religious fanaticism and the sectarian elements in Pakistan can be safely traced back to the Iranian Revolution in 1979. Right after the revolution, the Shiites in the Pakistani town of Bakkar established a movement to implement the Ja’fari interpretation of Islamic Law.

The leader of this group was Arif Hussain al-Hussaini, a student of the Iranian Revolution leader, Ayatollah Khomeini. Supported by Iran, al-Hussaini tried to create a sphere of influence capitalizing on the networks he was affiliated with in Pakistan as well as the favorable circumstances and the overall ideological atmosphere engendered by the Iranian Revolution.

In Pakistani madrasahs, al-Hussaini used a curriculum that was pursuing a policy in favor of the Iranian Revolution and directing their youth to go to Iran to receive all kinds of education. Al-Hussaini was also trying to lead the efforts to import Iran’s revolutionary ideology into Pakistan. His efforts took on a different dimension with the establishment of the Zainabiyoun Brigade.

Years of training and the networks forged paid off, and Iran started to recruit militants from Pakistan very easily. Therefore, the efforts of al-Hussaini began to be seen as elemental in the forming of the Zainabiyoun Brigade, which has been used by Iran in the Syrian civil war.

However, it is not surprising that Pakistani Shia militants are used in Syria as fighters. Although approximately 80 to 85 % of the population in Pakistan are Sunnis, who adhere to various Sunni Islamic schools of thought (Deobandis, Barelvis, Sufis and Salafis/Wahhabis), Iran-backed Shia organizations also wield significant influence.



Pakistan has been a scene of sectarian violence between Sunnis and Shias -- in which Iran is also thought to have a hand -- since a number of incidents first occurred between two communities in 1986. It is stated that in the nearly three thousand sectarian attacks that have taken place to date, around 10 thousand have lost their lives.



The Zainabiyoun Brigade

The Zainabiyoun Brigade, which came to the forefront due to the high casualties they suffered in the UAV and armed UAV attacks carried out by the Turkish Armed Forces in the Idlib operation, is a terrorist group consisting of Pakistani Shiites, based mostly around Aleppo and Damascus.

It was revealed that the Pakistani Shia militias, who previously acted individually, were organized under the name ‘Zainabiyoun Brigade’ in 2014 following a missile attack by the Salafi militias on the Shrine of Sayyida Zaynab in Damascus in 2012. According to the Tehran administration, protecting the Shrine of Sayyida Zaynab against attacks is the main reason this group is in Syria.

The group, which got its name from Prophet Mohammad’s cousin and son-in-law Ali’s daughter Zaynab, -- as previously noted -- consists of Pakistani Shiites recruited by Iran with various promises. The members of this group are much more educated than other Iranian-backed organizations. The majority of them are students coming from Pakistan to Iran for education or “pilgrims” who come to perform Shiite rituals.

Al-Mustafa International University, located in the city of Qom in Iran, is one of the most important recruitment centers where a lot of Pakistani students join the ranks of the Zainabiyoun Brigade.

Although the group currently has an estimated number of between two to five thousand militants, Pakistani intelligence officials state that the group’s actual number of fighters recruited from Pakistan could be much higher. The majority of the members of the Zainabiyoun Brigade come from the Shia-dominated Parachinar in the Kurram district of the Federally Administered Tribal Area (FATA), where Pakistan’s government control is weak. The employers of Pakistani fighters in Syria are the Iranian Revolutionary Guards and the Quds Force, which, needless to say, support the Syrian regime.



Iran’s main tools: Poverty and ideology

Looking at the studies, poverty and ideological motivations seem to be the main reasons for fighting on Iran’s side. While Iran promises jobs and an income, especially to the poor Shiite population that took refuge in this country, it also abuses faith as a tool of sectarian-ideological exploitation.

The Shia propaganda made by Iran to increase enlistment in the Zaynabiyyoun Brigade for ideological reasons has significant influence. By laying emphasis on the religious shrines and graves targeted and desacralized by Daesh, especially in the civil war, Iran also arouses hatred against the Sunni groups fighting on the side of the opposition in Syria and persuades people to fight voluntarily in the name of protecting Shiite values.

Realizing that using such tactics makes it easier to influence the Shia youth who are generally more prone to fall prey to ideology, Tehran uses all kinds of propaganda to recruit Shiite militia. The promise that those who die in the war will be regarded as martyrs and be buried in Iran’s holy city of Qom is also used as an ideological tool.

Another trump card of Iran is its ability to turn poverty into an opportunity. The poor among the Shia who took refuge in Iran are offered citizenship, jobs and a steady income for themselves and their families, and thus feel obliged to agree to fight on conditions that Iran imposes. Otherwise, they face deportation. Pakistani fighters are offered an average monthly salary of around 120,000 rupees ($ 700-750) in return for fighting under given conditions, and are even promised 15-day holidays after three months.

All kinds of training, and any essential needs, of the militias who have been persuaded to fight are organized and met by the Quds Force, which operates under direct orders from the Revolutionary Guards.

In response to the establishment of the Zainabiyoun Brigade, anti-Shia attacks began to occur in Pakistan. For example, at the end of 2015, more than 20 people lost their lives and many were injured in an explosion that took place in the center of Parachinar, where the Shiite community in the Kurram district of the Federally Administered Tribal Area constitute the majority.

Lashkar-e-Jhangvi, a violent anti-Shia group, claimed responsibility for the attack. Ali Abu Sufyan, the spokesperson of the group, said that the purpose of the attack was “to take revenge for the crimes Iran and Assad committed against Syrian Muslims” and added that he had warned the people of Parachinar to stop going to Iran to join the ranks of Assad and also stop sending militants there.

And after this attack, many others have taken place in cities with a predominantly Shia population, in addition to ongoing efforts to spread the clashes, which mostly take place every year in the month of Muharram, throughout the country.



Militant groups and Pakistan's national security

The dynamics in Syria have changed rapidly in recent times and the need for terror groups formed of recruited mercenaries has also decreased. This situation creates uncertainties about the fate of the Zainabiyoun Brigade and how Iran is likely to position itself with regard to it. Pakistani intelligence service has noted time and again that the number of fighters who fought in Syria at one time and returned to Pakistan is high, and that some among them tried to enter the country illegally.

The main problem stems from Pakistan’s failure to put in place the necessary measures up to this point. The question of what will happen when these militants return to Pakistan is one that perturbs security experts. Could it be a wake-up call for Pakistan that battle-hardened militants trained by the Iranian Revolutionary Guards and the Quds Force might actually be returning to Pakistan as Iran’s pawns?

Apart from the security problems they will cause for Pakistan in the future, the group’s presence has already become a big bone of contention in Pakistan. If we need to list the dangers that these militants may pose; primarily these people can have an ideological influence on the youth. These militants, who will somehow return to Pakistan, will represent Iran’s “supply chain”, so to speak, and network in the region.

The second danger is that these militants will be able to reopen Pakistan’s sensitive sectarian wounds when they are instructed to do so and trigger instability in the region. In this way, Tehran will be able to interfere in Pakistan’s internal affairs whenever it feels is necessary and continue the proxy game in the region.

Islamabad, on the other hand, behaving very negligently in this regard, neither banned groups and organizations calling on young Pakistanis to join the Zainabiyoun Brigade, nor developed a strict policy with regard to Tehran’s use of Pakistan as some kind of supply warehouse of militants.

Although it is known that Iran recruits militants from Pakistan, the Islamabad administration’s unwillingness to officially react to the situation concerns security experts. This attitude of Pakistan boils down to a number of hard facts on the ground. The first is the fact that Pakistan has long been in an economic strain. Pakistan, which normally sides with Saudi Arabia mainly for economic reasons, feels cornered due to the deterioration of relations with Riyadh recently.

This being the case, it is highly likely that Islamabad wants to avoid doing any harm to its relations with Iran by openly speaking against the Zaynabiyoun Brigade. The second is that Islamabad would hate to see Iran slipping into the Indian axis in the event it caused a deterioration in its relations with Tehran. For this reason, it is avoiding any statements about this issue at a diplomatic level for the time being.

But as time wears on, Islamabad’s overlooking the developments and not taking measures in due time carries the risk of further increasing sectarian tensions that often cause violence in the country.

According to Pakistani security experts, it is clear that Iran has an undeniable role in the events taking place in Pakistan. According to them, Iran’s role cannot be denied either in the case of Kulbhushan Yadav, who is said to be a soldier in the Indian Navy and a spy of the Indian Intelligence captured on the Pakistan-Iran border, or in the case of the fleeing of Uzayr Baluj (a national of both Pakistan and Iran, who assassinated many people and is also involved in many organized crimes) to Iran over the Chabahar Port during the operation Pakistan launched to capture him.

In addition, while all this is happening, the fact that the Zainabiyoun Brigade has not been criticized seriously in the Pakistani media is very conspicuous. Since no official statement has come from the government to date, the Pakistani media also avoids taking up the issue. However, if the citizens of a country, which is vulnerable to sectarian conflicts, are assigned by another country to fight in its name, the media has a responsibility to keep this issue on the agenda and to investigate it in the contexts of security and society.

Moreover, it is a fact that Iran has not fully used its influence in Pakistan in sectarian conflicts up until today. With the withdrawal of the US forces from Afghanistan, however, it is predicted that Iran will come to have the influence to an extent that can threaten the regional balances. An alarming situation that vindicates these predictions is that after the killing of Qasim Suleimani, Ismail Ghani was appointed as the new commander of the Quds Force, a division primarily responsible for extraterritorial military operations.

Before becoming the head of the Quds force, Ghani was closely involved in recruiting militants from Pakistan and Afghanistan, as well as their transport to Iran and training. The fact that Ghani has wide networks in the region and knows the region very well is an issue that worries security experts, because many find it highly likely that Iran would not shy away from using the trained and experienced militants in the Zainabiyoun Brigade in a likely sectarian conflict in Pakistan.
Great article, thanks for sharing.

Much needed and at the right time.

This is such a bullshit article written by an Israeli, anti-Iran warmongers are back to spew their shit and drink poison from Pompeo and Bolton. Do not post Israeli propaganda on this site.

Cannot say I am surprised that you are back again to divide Pakistanis and Iranians. Anti-Iran people like you are worse than cancerous to Pakistan which needs stability for the economy so we can expand CPEC and IP pipeline to Iran.
You will have to make a choice soon between your allegiance to Iran and your allegiance to Pakistan.

Many Pakistanis who believe in some imaginary friendship between the two will have to stare at reality.

I don't think they will return to Pakistan
they will come back following their Daesh enemies in Afghanistan

since Afghanis won't see any peace in near future so the war will continue there.
but if they do come back then we can use them against Lashker jhangvi, sipah sahabah, ghazi force or TTP. whoever survives can be later killed by ISI.

PROBLEM SOLVED.
This is fiction.

Iran is supporting NA remnants of Kabul government, ANA, and NDS, which are allied with TTP and Daesh againdt the Taliban.

Why would Zainabiyoun harm their allies in Afghanistan?

STOP DRINKING INDIAN AND ISRAELI PROPGANDA. DO NOT POST ISRAELI PROPOGANDA ON THIS SITE

Pakistan has common interests with Iran.

India and Israel are both enemies of Pakistan and it is in their interest to divide Iran and Pakistan with these stupid conspiracy articles and fuckers like you are falling for it. People like you are a disgrace who will destabilize our region by spreading this cancerous mentality of making an enemy out of Iran. Pakistan's only true friends are China and Iran.
You are on one side, and quite literally the whole of your country is on the other.

Iran is no friend of Pakistan, even their involvement in CPEC is due to Chinese money and not love for Pakistan.

when we will find them we can ask them to get rid of Daesh and TTP first and then stay in iran or Afghanistan and take out any organisation that plans attacks on our mosques schools army bases and beheads our soldiers.

no shia force ahmedi force or Christian force can do any damage to Pakistan when a wahabi forces of TTP and all its takfiri outfits are present in Pakistan and have not really made us to panic and best of all.my blasphemy killing lynch commandos of khadim rizvi will not leave anyone alive in the end if any one escapes all other sectarian religious or ethnic terrorists.

I am just worried that when minorities also start making armed groups like this then be prepared for Ahmedi force and Christian force as well which shows the failure of state to protect its minorities and enabling Arabs and their Indian and israeli friends to to create trouble and Iranians creating their groups to fight saudi proxies.

in short
we are doomed
just pray that we dont hear about Ahmedi force. we have killed their doctors teachers and traders over blasphemy charges and for being alive in Pakistan. when theu will pickup arms then it will be over for Pakistan
provided if wahabi or shia terrorists have left anything in Pakistan.

china is ensuring that common economic interests with Iran and Pakistan bring us together with mutual security as paramount.
those who don't like china and its investment in Pakistan and iran are using religious and ethnic violence to stop the progress.
We don't need any sectarian militias in this country, esp those who have done war crimes against civilians in Syria.

hence I said we are doomed. everyone is against us. everything is kuffer, every thing is blasphemy everything is a conspiracy. everyone is traitor.

Pakistani shias love Iran more than Pakistan
Pakistani sunnis love Saudis more than Pakistan

Both Iranians and Saudis love India more than Pakistan.
Problem is pro-Iran faction, which always defends Iranian interests. Many of them are Shia hardliners, but there are some Sunnis also. It is not a sectarian issue only, but moreso a national security issue.

Shia Pakistanis are our best allies to snuff out and eliminate Iranian agents in Pakistan, as they can infiltrate and reveal these networks.
LOL me desperate for what ? its my opinion that Shias have nothing to do with Islam, I don't hate them for what they believe , you can worship a horse or spaghettis monster for all I care, but if you do then don't call it Islam . As for Orgies , well the best answer can be given by Ayatullah's and those who practice Mutha, now before you once again use another poor attempt of sarcasm, yes Mutha is part of Shia believe as much as important as Taqqiah ( deception and lies ), If you are Jealous of their Mutha practice than you are one sick man hahah in fact you should be monitored for being a protentional pedophile .


that is one thing we can agree on ..
You are distracting from the main point brother. This issue concerns Iranian influence, not the Shia Muslim brothers and sisters, who are our loyal Pakistanis.

Even on this forum you will find Shia Pakistanis who disagree with Iranian interests, and you will find Sunni Pakistanis (even ones with names like Osman) who are Iranian shills.

I am going to tell you that today I was thinking about this issue after reading this thread and I met a Shia Muslim brother just a short time ago who is married to a Sunni Muslim sister for decades, has several children, and prays in Sunni masajid daily. He told me that he read the Quran and realized that being faithful to Allah swt is most important.

Fact is that there are many pious and good-natured Shia brothers and sisters like this also, we need to be fair. We Pakistanis do not see a difference between Sunni or Shia, just as the Quran does not see any difference.

If someone curse a pious sahabah or makes takfir, it is on them alone and they will bear the punishment. We cannot paint all this way.

Iran and India would like nothing more than to see us killing each other on sectarian basis, but we Pakistanis are better than this. We stood beside each other at the most difficult times, we helped each other at those times.

Even our hero Aitzaz Hassan, that brave kid who became shaheed during the APS attack, he also was a Shia. How can we make takfir on someone like that?



Don't worry , he always pick any article which is related to Shia of Pakistan and Iran. Even now he picked this Turkish media. But posting such news in Turkish national media is understandable ..its due to defeat of Turkish backed forces in Syria ... So anything which cause of defeat is now addressing in Turkish govt media.
On contrary KSA , UAE or rest of arabs are now ready to cooperate any group which raised armed against Turkish backed forces in Syria...
So, Pakistan is victim of his own friends ... these winds of hate are blowing from far away land. Some people in this forum trying hard to defend the past terrorism in this country, due to religious affiliations ....
But proudly, shia never raised armed and will never raised arm against people or state of Pakistan. Because our forefather build this country.
When it comes to who has stood by Pakistan, you cannot compare Turkey with Iran or KSA. Even our brotherly Shia country Azerbaycan has stood with us through our most difficult times. These two Turkish brothers have stood by our cause in kashmir since the beginning, and given every support we asked, and even gone beyond.

Pakistan's friendship with Turkey and Azerbaycan is more than a common friendship, it is love, loyalty, and faith to Allah swt, His rasool saws, and the wider Muslim community.

Sectarianism is now pretty much dead in Pakistan nowadays. The heyday was the 1980s/1990s.
I'm loving this thread!

It shows that PDF will never become an echo chamber even if all indians were permanently banned from here............ :lol:
In the future, there will be no Sunni or Shia, there will only be Muslim. We are quick approaching this point.

Shias are de-linking from Iran at a rapid pace, the Azerbaycan conflict and Iranian meddling has quickened that pace.
 
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Pakistani Shia are actually Khumenists,
Hm.....tbh with you, i would agree with you if this was the truth. But its just like me saying "Pakistani Sunnis are actually Wahhabis"....its a huge generalization, so its not likely true most of the time. Seeking religious guidance/inspiration from Iran doesnt make Pakistani Shia Khomeinists.
while Shia on other places of world are not infected with Khumenisim.
I dont think this is necessarily true either...Some Iraqi and Lebanese Shia(Hezbollah and southern Lebanese Shia) actively follow Velayat- el- Faqih, which is Khomeinism, so what you say here is not factually correct.
 

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Great article, thanks for sharing.

Much needed and at the right time.



You will have to make a choice soon between your allegiance to Iran and your allegiance to Pakistan.

Many Pakistanis who believe in some imaginary friendship between the two will have to stare at reality.



This is fiction.

Iran is supporting NA remnants of Kabul government, ANA, and NDS, which are allied with TTP and Daesh againdt the Taliban.

Why would Zainabiyoun harm their allies in Afghanistan?



You are on one side, and quite literally the whole of your country is on the other.

Iran is no friend of Pakistan, even their involvement in CPEC is due to Chinese money and not love for Pakistan.



We don't need any sectarian militias in this country, esp those who have done war crimes against civilians in Syria.



Problem is pro-Iran faction, which always defends Iranian interests. Many of them are Shia hardliners, but there are some Sunnis also. It is not a sectarian issue only, but moreso a national security issue.

Shia Pakistanis are our best allies to snuff out and eliminate Iranian agents in Pakistan, as they can infiltrate and reveal these networks.


You are distracting from the main point brother. This issue concerns Iranian influence, not the Shia Muslim brothers and sisters, who are our loyal Pakistanis.

Even on this forum you will find Shia Pakistanis who disagree with Iranian interests, and you will find Sunni Pakistanis (even ones with names like Osman) who are Iranian shills.

I am going to tell you that today I was thinking about this issue after reading this thread and I met a Shia Muslim brother just a short time ago who is married to a Sunni Muslim sister for decades, has several children, and prays in Sunni masajid daily. He told me that he read the Quran and realized that being faithful to Allah swt is most important.

Fact is that there are many pious and good-natured Shia brothers and sisters like this also, we need to be fair. We Pakistanis do not see a difference between Sunni or Shia, just as the Quran does not see any difference.

If someone curse a pious sahabah or makes takfir, it is on them alone and they will bear the punishment. We cannot paint all this way.

Iran and India would like nothing more than to see us killing each other on sectarian basis, but we Pakistanis are better than this. We stood beside each other at the most difficult times, we helped each other at those times.

Even our hero Aitzaz Hassan, that brave kid who became shaheed during the APS attack, he also was a Shia. How can we make takfir on someone like that?





When it comes to who has stood by Pakistan, you cannot compare Turkey with Iran or KSA. Even our brotherly Shia country Azerbaycan has stood with us through our most difficult times. These two Turkish brothers have stood by our cause in kashmir since the beginning, and given every support we asked, and even gone beyond.

Pakistan's friendship with Turkey and Azerbaycan is more than a common friendship, it is love, loyalty, and faith to Allah swt, His rasool saws, and the wider Muslim community.



In the future, there will be no Sunni or Shia, there will only be Muslim. We are quick approaching this point.

Shias are de-linking from Iran at a rapid pace, the Azerbaycan conflict and Iranian meddling has quickened that pace.




Also, the hatred the Iranians have for Arabs particularly the Iraqis is on par for what we have towards indians. Their hatred is spilling over towards us too because we are Sunnis.
 
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Also, the hatred the Iranians have for Arabs particularly the Iraqis is on par for what we have towards indians. Their hatred is spilling over towars us too because we are Sunnis.
It is their propaganda, brother. We can see it even on this forum.

Either you support Pakistan or Iran.

You cannot support both at the same time, due to the nature of Iranian strategic and geopolitical aims, which are opposed to Pakistan.
 

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