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Yield of May 1998 Pakistani nuclear tests,a comparison

Discussion in 'Pakistan Strategic Forces' started by shaheenmissile, Nov 2, 2015.

  1. shaheenmissile

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    In 1998 when Pakistan detonated Nuclear devices,the claimed Yield was 36 Kilotons. But India and many other countries downplayed it and called it a "Fizzle not a bang" and claimed the actual Yield was a mere 6 Kilotons.
    In this video we are comparing a 1962 French Nuclear test which was carried out in similar topography with Pakistani tests.
    You will notice the similarities in the "Mountain shake" but Pakistani test kicks up more Debris than French test of 1st May 1962.
    The French called it "Beryl" and declared Yield was 30Kt. By looking at the video,it can be deduced that since Pakistani test creates a "Bigger bang" it is an Indication that the Yield was greater than 30Kt or close to the claimed 36 Kilotons. Not 6 Kilotons as Indians claim.
    For anyone interested in comparing Topography of test sites shown in the video.
    French test site of In-Eker, Algerian Sahara Google Maps
    Pakistani test site of Ras Koh in Balochistan Desert Google Maps




     
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    The world is jealous
     
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    I guess the best way to estimate the yield of underground nuclear test is to compare it with power of Earth Quake it creates vs the depth of test site........ @RadioactiveFriends may be you can put some light?
     
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    Don't make atrocious claims like that. India might have said that, and that is a big if, but which are the "many other countries"? I request you to present your source.
     
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    Asking from an indian about pakistan is like asking someone about his ex cruel boss.

    Indians are the extreme form of inferiority complex,just ignore them
     
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    Not, this 'video evidence to calculate yield' theory of yours again again....lol
     
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    My friend before defending your beloved India try to use google. Plenty of evidence there.
     
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    Only if the depth of the devices is the same and the overlying geology is similar.
     
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    Such argument is more valid in flat surface tests. In under a mountain test,the tunnels are normally horizontal,as shown in the video and as also in Pakistani test site's case. Plus visually the size of the mountain looks similar.

    I post this type of material all over the internet and the sorry "Down in the gutter" mentality of Pakistanis is so hopeless that i get more criticism from Pakistanis than i do from Indians.

    Post a crude diagram of a space ship being built by India on an Indian website and the whole Indian crowd will cheer and say thanks and pull out evidence no matter how ludicrous.

    On the other hand present well founded evidence of something good done by Pakistan to "Pakistanis" and they will fart on your face. True story.
     
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    Well a piece of advice from my side..Don't take any Indian's comment about Pakistan serious ever, you know the reason...And if an Indian "Ever Contradict" Your claim...Know it, you are 110% Right...!
     
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    So do you know the detonation depths of the two devices?
     
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    At least we got a Video...
    What you got? No video? :lol:

    Do you?

    Btw my dear if you want to keep your head bowed down in shame,you may continue doing that,this thread may not be appropriate for you and wont cure your inferiority complex.Try not to waste your time here,look elsewhere. May be an Indian thread where they post a pencil Diagram of Agni-6 and say its deployed and ready to fire.
     
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    Am I making any claims about how the yields must be similar?
     
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    But you are disputing the claims,so you are as much liable to presenting evidence as someone else.

    Btw my dear if you want to keep your head bowed down in shame,you may continue doing that,this thread may not be appropriate for you and wont cure your inferiority complex.Try not to waste your time here,look elsewhere. May be an Indian thread where they post a pencil Diagram of Agni-6 and say its deployed and ready to fire.
     
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    So this video shows we can contain a nuclear blast- all we have to do is put a mountain on top- now whatcha you gona do indians- :lol:-