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Beast

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I dont know which world you are living in but right now China is being surrounded from everywhere

Japan, South Korea, to Australia and India

USN Pacific Fleet is expanding at a very fast rate

next is China and you know it and China has done zero to prepare just like Russia
LOL... Ya right. Why are they attacking China now? What are u waiting for keyboard warrior?

Your Australia is very quiet after the Morrison got rid by the Australian. South Korea wants to build a better r/s with China as we are their biggest market for their chips production. Japan is a declining nation. India just join SCO meeting. Wondering why didnt they abandon it since they are in the Quad?

The only person dreaming and unaware of the surrounding world is you. :enjoy:
 

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New York Times report:

Russia Deploys Iranian Attack Drones, Ukrainian Military Says​


KOROPOVE, Ukraine — A new and, Ukrainian officers say, frighteningly effective weapon has appeared in the war on the Russian side: Iranian-made attack drones.

Russia and Iran never acknowledged striking a deal for the Shahed-136 attack drones, but a senior Ukrainian military official said remnants were discovered on the ground during the counteroffensive that Kyiv began in the northeast earlier this month.

The powerful weapon is a so-called kamikaze drone carrying a warhead of about 80 pounds. Its appearance in Ukraine is the first time it has been deployed outside the Middle East.

The use of the Shahed-136 drones shows that while Russia remains mostly isolated internationally and was even rebuked just last week by leaders of China and India, Moscow has still found support from Iran. It also adds a layer of geopolitical complexity to the conflict as more nations are drawn into providing weaponry.

In its first use in Ukraine, the Iranian drone blew up an American-supplied M777 howitzer used by the Ukrainian military, Colonel Rodion Kulagin, the commander of artillery operations in the Kharkiv counteroffensive, said in an interview.

“It blew the triple-seven in half,” Colonel Kulagin said. “Instead of firing 100 artillery shells, it’s easier to release one of these drones” to seek a target, he added.

Half a dozen strikes destroyed howitzers and armored vehicles, killing four soldiers and wounding 16, he said. Russia’s use of Iranian drones was reported earlier by The Wall Street Journal.

The appearance of the drones — even amid Ukraine’s otherwise successful and ongoing counteroffensive in the northeast — prompted Colonel Kulagin to appeal to Ukraine’s Western allies to quickly provide defenses or a similar weapon to strike back.

“Give us something like this,” Colonel Kulagin said.

Drones have played a crucial role in the conflict already. The United States has supplied Ukraine with its Switchblade drones, and an attack on Russia’s Black Sea Fleet headquarters involved a drone. Ukraine has also deployed Turkish-made Bayraktar TB2 drones firing guided missiles.

The Shahed-136 is a delta-wing drone launched from the back of a flatbed truck. Colonel Kulagin said he was not aware of any intelligence documenting the presence of the launcher or drones on the Russian side of the front. But remnants of a drone that crashed near the town of Kupyansk, apparently after malfunctioning, proved the weapon is in use, he said.

The weapon drops out of the sky without warning, according to Colonel Kulagin and a Ukrainian artillery officer who witnessed one of the strikes. It is accurate enough to hit a self-propelled howitzer in a spot near the turret where gunpowder is stored, setting off secondary explosions, Colonel Kulagin said.

In such strikes nothing remains of the drone after detonation, he said. But witness accounts and the nature of the explosions, which were distinct from the damage caused by artillery fire, made the Ukrainian military confident in its assessment that the drones had been successfully deployed.

Debris from the crashed drone indicated that the Russian military had removed its Iranian markings. The drone was mislabeled on a winglet as a Geran-2 Russian-made drone, Colonel Kulagin said.

“It’s a very serious problem,” he said. Without countermeasures, he added, “they will destroy all our artillery.”

It is unclear how many Iranian attack drones Russia has acquired. The U.S. national security adviser, Jake Sullivan, said in July that Russia intended to buy several hundred Iranian drones of various types.

There was no immediate response from Washington on the reports that the Shahed-136 drones were being used in Ukraine. On Friday, Gen. James Hecker, the top U.S. air commander in Europe, said that Russia was only “just getting” Iranian drones “so we really haven’t seen how they’re going to use them yet or how effective they’re going to be.”

The Shahed-136 drones have so far only been deployed in northeastern Ukraine, Colonel Kulagin said. The first successful attack, on the M777 howitzer, was near the town of Chuguyev in August, before the counteroffensive began. The other strikes occurred in the past week or so, he said.

“They are testing them and have concentrated them in this region,” Colonel Kulagin said.

Captain Volodymyr Danchenko, an artillery officer whom the Ukrainian military made available for a telephone interview, said he witnessed a strike on a self-propelled howitzer — a tracked, armored vehicle that parks briefly to fire artillery before moving to avoid counterattacks.

The drone streaked in and obliterated the howitzer, he said.

“It was not like artillery that hit us before,” he said. “I haven’t met something like this before.”

 

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The appearance of the drones — even amid Ukraine’s otherwise successful and ongoing counteroffensive in the northeast — prompted Colonel Kulagin to appeal to Ukraine’s Western allies to quickly provide defenses or a similar weapon to strike back.

“Give us something like this,” Colonel Kulagin said.
taught they have Mighty Superstar Bayraktar TV2
 

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any ideas how iranian drone are faring like Mohajer-6 etc...?
Nothing seen yet in terms of UCAVs.

If Russia does not use them conservatively it will suffer the same fate as the TB2. Can't use UCAVs for interdiction in a heavy AD environment. They need alot of suicide UAS first to open up some space for aviation to operate in their grid zones. That's my guess of what they will do.

Best case is they use it for conservatively for surveillance.
 

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Horrible Attack!!! The power of China's FH 901 Suicide Drone smashes the Tank to smithereens
Actually, this small suicide drone isn't very impressive. On the other hand, the WS-43 is an interesting idea. I hope it could have longer range and longer duration. Launched from regular MLRS tubes, it can get to the target zone much faster and pack more punch. More like a scaled-down version of a cruise missile. A longer-range version could make it a good HIMARS hunter.
 

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There's no doubt that China has game changing weapons that can be mass produced with China's massive labor force and industrial basis. However, China is quite passive and has never shown herself to be willing to engage in disputes against the West.

Iran-Russia relations have had their ups and downs, but I think Iran is by far a more reliable partner for Russia than China is at this time.

Don't forget that China has to maintain its stance against the international world order while Iran mainly deals with the Middle East and the surroundings. China holds far more weight than Iran and can't openly support Russia. They're already supporting Russia via economic policies.

You can't compare Iran's supply of drones to China-Russia relations in any way.
 

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Don't forget that China has to maintain its stance against the international world order while Iran mainly deals with the Middle East and the surroundings.

China holds far more weight than Iran and can't openly support Russia. They're already supporting Russia via economic policies.

You can't compare Iran's supply of drones to China-Russia relations in any way.
China regime has no balls, and Iran is dealing with USA, Israel, Gulfies, Europe, separatists, sectarians, ... You name it,...

Actually China is just a sleeping dragon, or hiding very well it's cards,....
 

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We have a fucking airforce to carry out such strikes. Plus long range arty.
Its impressive. Most impressive and resourceful. But not a technology we have need for, yet.
Drones are far cheaper to produce, fly, maintain and replace then Aircraft. So drones are a good investment.
 

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