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Sure, it must have worked. Does that group of beardos comprise of @Areesh @Black Vigo ( he must be the one in the thawb ) @Mujahid Memon @kingQamaR @Wergeland @MultaniGuy ? @xeuss, will you call them a "depraved society" as you regularly do for Hindus ?
I told you not to tag me I know you're retarded but even an incompetent tech support scammer like you should be able to comprehend a simple sentence

And using your logic since you keep talking about religious folks with contempt your obsession suggests you fantasize about them (Not my logic but your own :enjoy:)

MultaniGuy, these are the fake orthodox-Islam guys though you claim these types are the real Muslims. In reality these agents of NATO, these minions of Zia-ul-Haq, he of the jinn power research, are endangering progressive Muslims, progressive Muslim-majority movements and countries and human progress in generally and must be defeated. SpaceX will land humans on Mars in six to seven years from now and these mullahs are trying to put out fire by doing a phoonk-maaring of azaan
Who made you the judge of what's real and fake in Islam you're not a Muslim so you're not one of us

Go cry in your shithole you fake commie wannabe
And yes we are a danger to you filthy proggies (once again you're not Muslims) and will always be ,Try and interfere in our religious matters and cultural/societal norms I promise you you'll join your filthy murtad "comrades" in hell

Lastly where is USSR today? Is Russia still communist? Why not?
Why is Eastern Europe converted to a capitalist society if your communist paradise was so beautiful?

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But you are a ritualist, literalist mullah who doesn't know the context of the times the hadeeses were written and whether they stand to the test of reason and rationality. You follow the wrong ones and don't follow the right ones.
I don't recall asking you murtad atheist pig
Hadiths are for every era we are Muslims you are not so you'll never know.

And whatever I am I'm definitely not a delusional proggie pig who thinks he will bring back communism and replace Islam LOL


And what do I say about Hazrat Muhammad ?
That his words are not fit for modern times and hadiths should be rejected if they don't "feel" on par with modern times LOL

I have long said that out of all the theist religions Islam is the closest to modern Communism and must meld in the coming years for it is natural. But what do you mean by what I am supposed to have advocated ?
Yet you have no verse backing up your claim only non-muslim murtads such as yourself whose words have no value just like yours :lol::lol::lol:


Then why don't you just raid all these madrassas and arrest those boy-raping mullahs and ban the madrassas ?
How about we start executing your filthy kind alongside them?

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For the umpteenth time. Please avoid religious discussions on PDF.

I agree. But there must be a way to not be overt about it but still reply to irrational crooks like Black Vigo who present distortions of Quranic verses and other crooks like KingQamar who make a general declaration "Oh this is not in the Quran but is sunnat" and both use fear-inducing and lynch-mob-threat words like "Allah has commanded".

I told you not to tag me I know you're retarded but even an incompetent tech support scammer like you should be able to comprehend a simple sentence

I obey you, o great software developer who earns more in a day than I can in a month. Yet can't design an OS even by gathering a team of three. :lol:

Who made you the judge of what's real and fake in Islam you're not a Muslim so you're not one of us

Yes, NATO bosses Obomba and B'liar also call me, Nasser, Gaddafi and the Assads "not real Muslims". But Obomba and B'liar certainly call you mullahs as "real Muslims" and spend huge resources in getting you into power by regime-changing us. Does that mean Obomba and B'liar are the imams of all Muslims, especially you "True Muslims" ? 🤔

Lastly where is USSR today? Is Russia still communist? Why not?

Even Putin who is not a Communist called the USSR's dissolution as the biggest tragedy of the last century. And during the initial days of the Ukraine war there were two Russian tanks in two separate places which proudly carried the USSR flag. And then there is the famous Babushka Z :
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What should that tell you ?

Why is Eastern Europe converted to a capitalist society if your communist paradise was so beautiful?

Eastern Europe ? The "democracy-seeking" people from there who form the political and socio-economic systems there now, I want them to question this from their leaders the "highly developed" Western Europe.

How about we start executing your filthy kind alongside them?

Yes like you executed Muammar Gaddafi after being let off your dog leash by your master NATO. :)
 
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I obey you, o great software developer who earns more in a day than I can in a month. Yet can't design an OS even by gathering a team of three. :lol:
Yet I'm not the one crying about communism how ironic :lol::lol::lol:

Even Putin who is not a Communist called the USSR's dissolution as the biggest tragedy of the last century. And during the initial days of the Ukraine war there were two Russian tanks in two separate places which proudly carried the USSR flag. And then there is the famous Babushka Z :
LOL
So this is your proof of USSR? LOOOOOL What a pathetic bitch :lol::lol::lol::lol:

What should that tell you ?
That you're more retarded than you look you gay pig
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Yes, NATO bosses Obomba and B'liar also call me, Nasser, Gaddafi and the Assads "not real Muslims". But Obomba and B'liar certainly call you mullahs as "real Muslims" and spend huge resources in getting you into power by regime-changing us. Does that mean Obomba and B'liar are the imams of all Muslims, especially you "True Muslims" ? 🤔
Just because you have communist masters doesn't mean we are also on your pathetic level that we have NATO as masters we only have one master that is Allah you are a slave of humans not us

Your black *** keeps burning because you know your filthy reality as well so in order to cope you associate us with NATO just to heal the burn in your filthy ***

You are proud to admit you are a commie slave bastard we on the other hand fight against NATO and Commies instead of taking a master among them you pathetic bitch :omghaha:


Eastern Europe ? The "democracy-seeking" people from there who form the political and socio-economic systems there now, I want them to question this from their leaders the "highly developed" Western Europe.
Yeah like there was no starvation and homelessness in the USSR tell this pathetic shit to someone who is as low IQ as you :omghaha::omghaha::omghaha:

Yes like you executed Muammar Gaddafi after being let off your dog leash by your master NATO. :)
Ironic coming from a slave of communists like I said before we are free and proud this why the asses of you commies and imperialist pigs burns like charcoal all the time

And no you need to be treated worse than Gaddafi your likes need to have their head chopped off to make an example so nobody else dares to instill their filthy values in our society


There was another called Mirza Qadiani who tried to "reform" Islam your views are similar to his
Your hatred towards Prophet Muhammad's words (and possibly himself) was shared by your fellow murtad too

He died with his own shit surrounding him and if you keep this up perhaps that will be your fate as well (Same as stalin too LOL)



Finally, There will never be any communism in Muslim societies nor any proggies will be tolerated amongst us, you guys will live a pathetic life and die a pathetic death too (if you keep it up that is)



Stay mad bitch boy
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I agree. But there must be a way to not be overt about it but still reply to crooks like Black Vigo who present distortions of Quranic verses and other crooks like KingQamar who make a general declaration "Oh this is not in the Quran but is sunnat" and both use fear-inducing and lynch-mob-threat words like "Allah has commanded".



I obey you, o great software developer who earns more in a day than I can in a month. Yet can't design an OS even by gathering a team of three. :lol:



Yes, NATO bosses Obomba and B'liar also call me, Nasser, Gaddafi and the Assads "not real Muslims". But Obomba and B'liar certainly call you mullahs as "real Muslims" and spend huge resources in getting you into power by regime-changing us. Does that mean Obomba and B'liar are the imams of all Muslims, especially you "True Muslims" ? 🤔



Even Putin who is not a Communist called the USSR's dissolution as the biggest tragedy of the last century. And during the initial days of the Ukraine war there were two Russian tanks in two separate places which proudly carried the USSR flag. And then there is the famous Babushka Z :
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What should that tell you ?



Eastern Europe ? The "democracy-seeking" people from there who form the political and socio-economic systems there now, I want them to question this from their leaders the "highly developed" Western Europe.



Yes like you executed Muammar Gaddafi after being let off your dog leash by your master NATO. :)

You’re probably insecure and affected by the media machine telling you 24/7 that you and your people are bad.

Ask your parents, or someone you trust. Tell them how you feel and explain it to them in depth. Hopefully they would be open enough to have a discussion with you about it and how they reason matters.

One liner questions online are not going to lead you to some meaningful answers instead to Jahannam?

A better question would be Can believers be communists? The answer is no.

Communism is a materialistic ideology.

A communist must be an atheist. He must be an enemy of religion.

Their leader Vladimir Lenin said and I quote

“Religion is necrophilia”
 

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You’re probably insecure and affected by the media machine telling you 24/7 that you and your people are bad.

Ask your parents, or someone you trust. Tell them how you feel and explain it to them in depth. Hopefully they would be open enough to have a discussion with you about it and how they reason matters.

One liner questions online are not going to lead you to some meaningful answers instead to Jahannam?

A better question would be Can believers be communists? The answer is no.

Communism is a materialistic ideology.

A communist must be an atheist. He must be an enemy of religion.

Their leader Vladimir Lenin said and I quote

“Religion is necrophilia”
You're talking to a low IQ retard do you think he has a brain to process thoughts? :omghaha:
 

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Finally, There will never be any communism in Muslim societies nor any proggies will be tolerated amongst us, you guys will live a pathetic life and die a pathetic death too (if you keep it up that is)

A better question would be Can believers be communists? The answer is no.

Then you should rethink if you are the believer. Your mate MultaniGuy also is bereft of knowledge of the world despite him proudly being the owner of a college degree in "political science" which I have since asked him to burn. I gave him just one example of a Muslim-majority society which has been Communist for he has has been avoiding answering me. The country is South Yemen :
South Yemen (Arabic: اليمن الجنوبي, romanized: al-Yaman al-Janubiyy), officially the People's Democratic Republic of Yemen (Arabic: جمهورية اليمن الديمقراطية الشعبية, romanized: Jumhūriyat al-Yaman al-Dīmuqrāṭīyah al-Sha'bīyah), also referred to as Democratic Yemen (Arabic: اليمن الديمقراطي, romanized: al-Yaman al-Dīmuqrāṭīyah) or Yemen (Aden) (Arabic: اليمن (عدن), romanized: al-Yaman ('Adin)), was a socialist country that existed from 1967 to 1990 as a state in the Middle East in the southern and eastern provinces of the present-day Republic of Yemen, including the island of Socotra.
The Federation of South Arabia and the Protectorate of South Arabia merged to become the People's Republic of Yemen on 30 November 1967 and later changed its name to the People's Democratic Republic of Yemen. It became a Marxist–Leninist one-party state in 1969 and was supported by Cuba, East Germany and the Soviet Union. It was the only communist state to be established in the Arab world.
In June 1969 a radical Marxist wing of the NLF gained power in an event known as the Corrective Move. This radical wing reorganised the country into the People's Democratic Republic of Yemen (PDRY) on 30 November 1970.[3] Subsequently, all political parties were amalgamated into the National Liberation Front, renamed the Yemeni Socialist Party, which became the only legal party. The People's Democratic Republic of Yemen established close ties with the Soviet Union, the People's Republic of China, Cuba, and the Palestinian Liberation Organization. East Germany's constitution of 1968 even served as a kind of blueprint for the PDRY's first constitution.[4]

The new government embarked on a programme of nationalisation, introduced central planning, put limits on housing ownership and rent, and implemented land reforms. By 1973, the GDP of South Yemen increased by 25 per cent.[5] And despite the conservative environment and resistance, women became legally equal to men, polygamy, child marriage and arranged marriage were all banned by law. Equal rights in divorce were also sanctioned. The Republic also secularised education and sharia law was replaced by a state legal code.[6]

The major communist powers assisted in the building of the PDRY's armed forces. Strong support from Moscow resulted in Soviet naval forces gaining access to naval facilities in South Yemen.

Politics and social life​

South Yemen's ethnic groups are ethnic Yemeni Arabs (92.8%), Somalis (3.7%), Afro-Arab 1.1%, Indians and Pakistanis (1%), and other (1.4%) (2000). The only recognised political party in South Yemen was the Yemeni Socialist Party, which ran the country and the economy along self-described Marxist lines, modelled on the Soviet Union.[17]

Women's rights under the socialist government were considered the best in the region. Women became legally equal to men and were encouraged to work in public; polygamy, child marriage, and arranged marriage were all banned; and equal rights in divorce received legal sanction.[18][19][20][21][22]

The Supreme People's Council was appointed by the General Command of the National Liberation Front in 1971.

In Aden, there was a structured judicial system with a Supreme Court.[citation needed]

Education was paid for through general taxation.[citation needed]

Income equality improved, corruption was reduced, and health and educational services expanded.[18]

There was no housing crisis in South Yemen. Surplus housing built by the British meant that there were few homeless people in Aden, and people built their own houses out of adobe and mud in the rural areas.[citation needed]

South Yemen developed as a Marxist-Leninist, mostly secular[23] society ruled first by the National Liberation Front, which later morphed into the ruling Yemeni Socialist Party. The only avowedly Marxist-Leninist nation in the Middle East, South Yemen received significant foreign aid and other assistance from the USSR[24] and East Germany, which stationed several hundred officers of the Stasi in the country to train the nation's secret police and establish another arms trafficking route to Palestine.[25] The East Germans did not leave until 1990, when the Yemeni government declined to pay their salaries which had been terminated with the dissolution of the Stasi during German reunification.
So you people are so so unaware. You people must all be under 30 or even 35 and have wasted your years in Tableeghi uneducated company and have not learned about the intermeshings between real Islamic thought and modern Communism. I had tagged Black Vigo in the below recent thread of mine about the daughter of the female founder of the Japanese Red Army ( a Japan-origin transnational Communist revolutionary group ) and a Muslim Palestinian from the Palestinian Communist group PFLP. Black Vigo wrote stupidly in that thread and did not explore the story in the OP and what it meant :

As another example I will speak of pre-1947 India when in Kashmir the Muslim and Sikh Communists there renamed a famous landmark in Srinagar, the capital of the Kashmir kingdom ruled by raja Hari Singh, as Lal Chowk inspired by the Red Square in Communist Moscow in their agitation against the raja. This was before your fathers were born.

So I will say to you, stop being among the jaahil Tableeghis and join progressive groups where you may meet old-style Muslims like me who may have been part of revolutionary movements in previous decades.

Communism is a materialistic ideology.

Communism is a materialist philosophy because it understands that a human requires constant material sustenance and comfort and mental and physical freedom in order for him or her to contribute to human societal development and future. Without that sustenance and comfort humans will constantly engage in struggle with themselves, be troubled constantly and never build themselves into beings who develop themselves, their local society and humanity at large. Many may suicide like those two young Pakistani Muslim men from late last year from the Capitalist country of Pakistan and about whom I have been questioning Black Vigo but there has been no considered, sensible response from him. Wikipedia page for "Communism" has this simple explanation of the various very simple desires of Communism :
Communism (from Latin communis, 'common, universal') is a far-left philosophical, social, political, and economic ideology and movement whose goal is the establishment of a communist society, namely a socioeconomic order structured upon the ideas of common or social ownership of the means of production, as opposed to private ownership, and can involve the absence of social classes, money, and the state.
How can anyone object to such simple, wonderful bunch of thoughts ? Do you not want a society where there is no political, social and socio-economic injustice, disparities, atrocities and violence ? Below is what I asked Black Vigo in this thread of mine but he again never replied sensibly :
Pakistan's Capitalist soceity has 20 million homeless people; rural feudalism where the feudals can easily set dogs upon peasants who die in the attack and the police will forgive the feudal; then urban feudals; bonded labor; gender violence; stupidly proud tribalism; irrational social, religious and socio-economic class violence and oppression including mob lynching and suicides by students and workers including two young men who jumped off the higher floors in two separate malls just late last year because they were unemployed and the Capitalist system in Pakistan demanded that they have to compulsorily earn montly wage slavery and pay tax extortion too to barely survive themselves and their family and once the two were unemployed they were left socio-economically destitute and desperate and the Pakistani sytem was not empathetic to their tragic situtation, and desperate and trapped because of traditional
I have made many threads and posts about the 3000-year-old extreme Capitalist system of India ( which Pakistan inherits too ) including about the artificial and very avoidable 350,000+ suicides of Indian famers just between 1995 and 2015 because of the socio-economic system here. 350,000 can be the population of a small city which just vanished within 20 years. No anthrax or COVID killed them nor an earthquake or volcano nor a rock of ice or stone from space. These 350,000+ were murdered by the Capitalist social and socio-economic system in the country. Similar the situation in Pakistan in various manifestations. Situations that wouldn't have arisen if these societies had adopted Communism. Any rational, thoughtful, empathetic and harmony-seeking person will seek Communism. There is no need for humans to suffer unnecessarily because of human-created reasons. No need to be homeless while others have farm houses or multiple houses they have invested in to get rent. No need for four people to live in a cramped slum while Mukesh Ambani lives in an ugly 27-storey mansion in Bombay with six storeys just for his 168 cars. No need for humans to be starved of food that Nature grows but for callous people to feed that food to the five street dogs on their street with the hungry human watching on. I can quote many other things but I will ask you to read when I post.

A communist must be an atheist. He must be an enemy of religion.

Their leader Vladimir Lenin said and I quote

“Religion is necrophilia”

Looking at you and Black Vigo and Areesh and Xeuss and your self-hating dilruba Muskan bibi, Lenin was right. :) You haven't understood Islam so either leave it or leave such discussions from the forum. Or you can heed my words and change radically. :)
 

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Looking at you and Black Vigo and Areesh and Xeuss and your self-hating dilruba Muskan bibi, Lenin was right. :) You haven't understood Islam so either leave it or leave such discussions from the forum. Or you can heed my words and change radically. :)
I am not even gonna bother answering any of your bullcrap above since I already answered it before and Leaving Islam is for murtads like you not us we were born Muslims and die Muslims

Only a murtad would encourage others to leave Islam

@kingQamaR Wanted to bring you back to Islam but hopefully this lets him know you're a hopeless case and perhaps want to burn alongside mirza qadiani who is another pig like you

From now onwards don't bother tagging me anywhere I'm going to place you on the ignore list
 

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Its because he have created a mindset that what he think is right and rest of the talks are useless to him.

He dont want to be embarrased infront of anyone that what he’s saying is so wrong so he try to argue with you and me even if knows wrong

Further more, Under no circumstances should one backbite. There is a hadeeth that says something to the effect that backbiting is like eating the flesh of your brother as we see now bro he’s deliberately dragging other posters in to his losing haram here

he’s a very sick puppy I’m outta here like you.

Salam
 

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Then you should rethink if you are the believer. Your mate MultaniGuy also is bereft of knowledge of the world despite him proudly being the owner of a college degree in "political science" which I have since asked him to burn. I gave him just one example of a Muslim-majority society which has been Communist for he has has been avoiding answering me. The country is South Yemen :




So you people are so so unaware. You people must all be under 30 or even 35 and have wasted your years in Tableeghi uneducated company and have not learned about the intermeshings between real Islamic thought and modern Communism. I had tagged Black Vigo in the below recent thread of mine about the daughter of the female founder of the Japanese Red Army ( a Japan-origin transnational Communist revolutionary group ) and a Muslim Palestinian from the Palestinian Communist group PFLP. Black Vigo wrote stupidly in that thread and did not explore the story in the OP and what it meant :

As another example I will speak of pre-1947 India when in Kashmir the Muslim and Sikh Communists there renamed a famous landmark in Srinagar, the capital of the Kashmir kingdom ruled by raja Hari Singh, as Lal Chowk inspired by the Red Square in Communist Moscow in their agitation against the raja. This was before your fathers were born.

So I will say to you, stop being among the jaahil Tableeghis and join progressive groups where you may meet old-style Muslims like me who may have been part of revolutionary movements in previous decades.



Communism is a materialist philosophy because it understands that a human requires constant material sustenance and comfort and mental and physical freedom in order for him or her to contribute to human societal development and future. Without that sustenance and comfort humans will constantly engage in struggle with themselves, be troubled constantly and never build themselves into beings who develop themselves, their local society and humanity at large. Many may suicide like those two young Pakistani Muslim men from late last year from the Capitalist country of Pakistan and about whom I have been questioning Black Vigo but there has been no considered, sensible response from him. Wikipedia page for "Communism" has this simple explanation of the various very simple desires of Communism :

How can anyone object to such simple, wonderful bunch of thoughts ? Do you not want a society where there is no political, social and socio-economic injustice, disparities, atrocities and violence ? Below is what I asked Black Vigo in this thread of mine but he again never replied sensibly :

I have made many threads and posts about the 3000-year-old extreme Capitalist system of India ( which Pakistan inherits too ) including about the artificial and very avoidable 350,000+ suicides of Indian famers just between 1995 and 2015 because of the socio-economic system here. 350,000 can be the population of a small city which just vanished within 20 years. No anthrax or COVID killed them nor an earthquake or volcano nor a rock of ice or stone from space. These 350,000+ were murdered by the Capitalist social and socio-economic system in the country. Similar the situation in Pakistan in various manifestations. Situations that wouldn't have arisen if these societies had adopted Communism. Any rational, thoughtful, empathetic and harmony-seeking person will seek Communism. There is no need for humans to suffer unnecessarily because of human-created reasons. No need to be homeless while others have farm houses or multiple houses they have invested in to get rent. No need for four people to live in a cramped slum while Mukesh Ambani lives in an ugly 27-storey mansion in Bombay with six storeys just for his 168 cars. No need for humans to be starved of food that Nature grows but for callous people to feed that food to the five street dogs on their street with the hungry human watching on. I can quote many other things but I will ask you to read when I post.



Looking at you and Black Vigo and Areesh and Xeuss and your self-hating dilruba Muskan bibi, Lenin was right. :) You haven't understood Islam so either leave it or leave such discussions from the forum. Or you can heed my words and change radically. :)

Your kind of socialism/communism/secularism and religious fundamentalism are two cheeks of the same backside.

Because both are intolerant of plurality.

You despise the veil. They despise the bikini.

I don’t differentiate between the two of you.

Both of you are intolerant bigots causing social discord.
 

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I am not even gonna bother answering any of your bullcrap above since I already answered it before and Leaving Islam is for murtads like you not us we were born Muslims and die Muslims

Only a murtad would encourage others to leave Islam

@kingQamaR Wanted to bring you back to Islam but hopefully this lets him know you're a hopeless case and perhaps want to burn alongside mirza qadiani who is another pig like you

From now onwards don't bother tagging me anywhere I'm going to place you on the ignore list

Its because he have created a mindset that what he think is right and rest of the talks are useless to him.

He dont want to be embarrased infront of anyone that what he’s saying is so wrong so he try to argue with you and me even if knows wrong

Further more, Under no circumstances should one backbite. There is a hadeeth that says something to the effect that backbiting is like eating the flesh of your brother as we see now bro he’s deliberately dragging other posters in to his losing haram here

he’s a very sick puppy I’m outta here like you.

Salam

Your kind of socialism/communism/secularism and religious fundamentalism are two cheeks of the same backside.

Because both are intolerant of plurality.

You despise the veil. They despise the bikini.

I don’t differentiate between the two of you.

Both of you are intolerant bigots causing social discord.

I am a reasonable person seeking balance and harmony so I don't propose for the bikini to be worn in public but these chaps impose the obscene, anti-human, anti-female, pre-Islamic, non-Islamic and anti-Islamic burqa to be imposed on every female in public. They should wear it themselves instead of the females so as to prevent the females to be tempted by looking at their beautiful Tableeghi faces. :lol: Look at this specimen of male beauty, what female aged 15 to 50 wouldn't be tempted by him :
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I have posted the below speech by Jamal Abdul Nasser from 1958 where he and his audience laugh at the "Muslim" Brotherhood chief's "advise" to Nasser to impose the burqa on Egyptian females. The year is 1958 but Black Vigo and KingQamar carry on the stupidity in 2022 :

Guys let's not be calling each other names.

@The Eagle bhai you can decide what you want with this thread.

Bilal bhai, thank you for being the peacemaker here :) though Eagle had twice banned me unnecessarily in rapid succession so you tagged the wrong person unless he has matured. :)

As for these fellows, they either need to chip the inside walls of the Khewra salt mine for six months as re-education or they should be given the Musharraf treatment ( Lal Masjid 2007 ). Cannot see them reforming otherwise. :)
 
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I am a reasonable person seeking balance and harmony so I don't propose for the bikini to be worn in public but these chaps impose the obscene, anti-human, anti-female, pre-Islamic, non-Islamic and anti-Islamic burqa to be imposed on every female in public. They should wear it themselves instead of the females so as to prevent the females to be tempted by looking at their beautiful Tableeghi faces. :lol: Look at this specimen of male beauty, what female aged 15 to 50 wouldn't be tempted by him :
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I have posted the below speech by Jamal Abdul Nasser from 1958 where he and his audience laugh at the "Muslim" Brotherhood chief's "advise" to Nasser to impose the burqa on Egyptian females. The year is 1958 but Black Vigo and KingQamar carry on the stupidity in 2022 :



Bilal bhai, thank you for being the peacemaker here :) though Eagle had twice banned me unnecessarily in rapid succession so you tagged the wrong person unless he has matured. :)

As for these fellows, they either need to chip the inside walls of the Khewra salt mine for six months as re-education or they should be given the Musharraf treatment ( Lal Masjid 2007 ). Cannot see them reforming otherwise. :)

You don’t think the secular mob has his equivalent with tattoos and piercings?

Why blame religion for choices made by individuals?

Intolerance is our biggest enemy not religion.

Secularism breeds more intolerance than any religion.

There is no equivalent in any abrahamic religion to what atheists perpetrated in Germany, Russia to Cambodia.

Secular France is very close to becoming a fascist state. Le Pen got very close this time. Next time she will win.
 

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You don’t think the secular mob has his equivalent with tattoos and piercings?

Why blame religion for choices made by individuals?

Intolerance is our biggest enemy not religion.

Secularism breeds more intolerance than any religion.

There is no equivalent in any abrahamic religion to what atheists perpetrated in Germany, Russia to Cambodia.

Secular France is very close to becoming a fascist state. Le Pen got very close this time. Next time she will win.

I think the best way for Bangladesh is the middle road like that practiced in Malaysia and more conservatively, in Indonesia. Those are ideal ways in which a Muslim state can tackle these questions.

In Malaysia - I have personally seen Musallis going to Salah in a mosque in the middle of a park, attended by women of other ethnicities in shorts (it is a warm, humid country). Not one Burqah in sight.

I am not advocating such practices as Bangladesh and Pakistan are more conservative countries - however respect should be there for whomever that wants to cover themselves unless it is a security issue (which Burqah is). Hijab and Burqah are not the same thing.

Ultimately this is not for MALES to DECIDE. That day of Patriarchy is long gone.

IT IS A GROWN-UP WOMAN'S PREROGATIVE TO CHOOSE WHATEVER INSTRUMENT OF MODESTY SHE FEELS IS APPROPRIATE FOR HERSELF TO FEEL COMFORTABLE IN PUBLIC WITH. HIJAB IS ONE SUCH INSTRUMENT and the most common one.

Since this is nothing for Hindu males to decide (as it is not their religion), they should not voice opposition against it either. In Bangladesh there has been recent opposition by some RSS-follower Hindus against Hijab.
 

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