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You are always trying to create an illusory superiority of the Pakistan Air Force and forget the most important thing
Pakistan was defeated in all its major wars with India
Defeated in War of 65
It was dismembered in the 71st war and Bangladesh broke away from any illusory superiority it speaks of
The Pakistani pilot was superior in his ability to breathe at high altitudes and was accustomed to the lack of oxygen of the old aircraft.
Pakistanis are demonstrating their superiority over the Indians by shooting down an old MiG-21, whether by the F-16 or the JF-17. We let you talk a lot and create for themselves an illusory victory, and we do not object, not just because of your conviction or your abilities, but simply because we do not want to enter into an argument in matters that do not accuse us.
Even the Arab-Israeli wars, Egypt in 73 triumphed over Israel with lagging planes, the MiG 17 and the MiG 21 surpassed the Mirage 3 and the Phantom at the hands of the Egyptians, and we have the longest air battle in which we won. You by a Pakistani pilot who participated in one of the wars create myths and imaginations about your being the most distinguished, and this has become ridiculous. Extremely
Egypt did not enter many wars after the October War for a simple reason. Israel does not want to go to war with a big country like Egypt again. The Turks fled the confrontation in front of the Egyptian army in Libya. Is our being the strongest and our enemies betraying us because we do not have the ability
Pakistan does not have the capabilities to even make maneuvers like Qadar-2020 or HASM-2020, and it does not have extensive maneuver capabilities like what Egypt does with dozens of countries and does not have complex and varied training facilities like Egypt. It is clear that in order for you to assemble a low-level plane you think yourselves are superior. Egypt is basically not interested in Pakistan nor Pakistan pilots and if the Egyptians think you are really good and there is a benefit from training with you, we would have held training exercises with you, just as we do with Greece, France, America, England, Italy and NATO. Do not live in illusions and everyone knows its size and value.
Where to start?
First off, no. Pakistan hasn't lost a single war to India at all.
65 was not a defeat. It was a stalemate. Both sides returned the land they gained to each other resulting in no territorial gain for either country.
71 was a defeat for Pakistan due to the Mukti buhini. Not because of India. At the end of the war India only gained kargil whereas we gained the chamb (120sqm). The rest of the war was ended via a UN mandated ceasefire.
In all of the wars and conflicts that Pakistan and India had fought, the PAF has always had consistency in maintaining its superiority over the Indian air force.
65 - air superiorty was achieved on the 2nd day of the war. The end result was 79-114 IAF fighters shot down/destroyed for 19-20 PAF aircraft shot down/destroyed.
71 - as per the Cia; 71 IAF aircraft shot down/destroyed (both fronts) whereas 42 PAF shot down/destroyed/scuttled (34 in the west).
The IAF was unable to gain air superiorty over the PAF during the 71 war. They were constantly contested and shot down by either our air force or AD.
You are comparing this to the piss poor performance of the EAF during the Arab-Israeli wars. The only notable time the EAF did something was during the air battle of mansoura where they fended off an IAF attack despite the overwhelming odds.
That's a commendable feat I have to admit... When compared to the rest of the air battles between the EAF and IAF. Majority of the air craft losses of the IAF was due to the Egyptian AD. Not because of the air force. Your airforce was unable to counter the Israeli Air force effectively. Ours did.
That's the difference.