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Will the advanced Chinese- Pakistani "JF-17 Block 3" fighter be the next guest of the Egyptian Air Force?

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هل ستكون المقاتلة الصينية JF-17 بلوك 3 المتطورة الضيف القادم لسلاح الجو المصري؟

Egypt has been pursuing the Sino-Pakistani fighter JF-17 for several years, hoping that the third block will satisfy the requirements and ambitions of the Egyptian Air Force, because if Egypt contracted for this fighter, it would be a joint manufacturing deal and would be a real nucleus for a national Egyptian fighter industry project, according to Egyptian defense expert Sameh.Al Jalad.

According to him, Egypt has already made its observation on the second block of the fighter and those observations have been fulfilled in the third block, the most important of which is the addition of the AESA radar, which is the most recent and newer than the radar on the MIG-29M fighter, as it is difficult to jam and has a greater range and does not require maintenance and does not have malfunctions, also the speed of the fighter was increased to Mach 2 and the armament weight increased to 6 tons, similar to the F-16 fighters.

The previous generation had the ability to carry weapons and ammunition of up to 4.5 tons only in the previous block and also the range of the fighter was increased by increasing the size of the fuel tank and adding the feature of refueling between fighters, as the Block 3 will allow the installation of shoulder fuel tanks on the sides as is the case in The F-16 Block 52 which will allow it to have a greater range, and the cockpit has been completely changed and various materials have been introduced into the Block 3 manufacturing to reduce its fingerprint on the radar screens.

The fighter is also equipped with an HMS system, so the pilot can track and lock the target without the need to use hand tools. Once the pilot only moves his head towards the target, the missile shuts off the target, and this allows the pilot to view targets around the cockpit to target them, and the third block has a Chinese engine called WS-13, which is a Chinese-made turbocharged engine that produces 22,000 pounds of power stronger than the MiG-29 engine. He was working on it earlier.

In addition, it will be equipped with the latest missiles in the Chinese and Pakistani arsenals of air-to-air missiles with a range of 200 - 300 km and cruise missiles with a range of up to 500 km. The fighter is also characterized by its low economic cost, as its maintenance does not reach 20% of the cost of the Rafale and 50% of the cost of the F-16 ...This fighter will be an alternative to the second-line fighters that have been out of service (MiG-21, Mirage 5, F4 Phantom and Chinese J7), as Egypt needs at least 100 fighters instead of those types that have been put out of service and there is no better than this project, especially as it will be a joint manufacturing and if Egypt is to contract the manufacture of the ammunition as well, it would be a serious project, that will allow Egypt to move 20 years forward in military industrialization , and then it would be easy for it to bring the Egyptian national fighter project to light, according to the expert.


https://www.defense-arabic.com/2021/01/11/هل-ستكون-المقاتلة-الصينية-jf-17-بلوك-3-المت/


Say no to assembly line, since they have close relation with Israel and it may end up with India
 

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The Thunder is a gem shining a class apart with its impressive performance in thunderous thrashing the Big-Endians.
With the mindset of similar to that of the Big-Endians, how can Egypt think of even going for a little-plane?
 

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After Rafale, Sukhoi 35, Mig 29 M2, F-16s, and may be Eurofighter Typhoons, are we getting a Pakistani fighter?!!!!!!! :fie:

Even if it is considered Chinese, they have a lot better to offer than the flying cockroach.
Loooool the only cockrpach is you and your country that gets beaten by a handful of yids
 

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You are always trying to create an illusory superiority of the Pakistan Air Force and forget the most important thing
Pakistan was defeated in all its major wars with India
Defeated in War of 65
It was dismembered in the 71st war and Bangladesh broke away from any illusory superiority it speaks of

The Pakistani pilot was superior in his ability to breathe at high altitudes and was accustomed to the lack of oxygen of the old aircraft.
Pakistanis are demonstrating their superiority over the Indians by shooting down an old MiG-21, whether by the F-16 or the JF-17. We let you talk a lot and create for themselves an illusory victory, and we do not object, not just because of your conviction or your abilities, but simply because we do not want to enter into an argument in matters that do not accuse us.

Even the Arab-Israeli wars, Egypt in 73 triumphed over Israel with lagging planes, the MiG 17 and the MiG 21 surpassed the Mirage 3 and the Phantom at the hands of the Egyptians, and we have the longest air battle in which we won. You by a Pakistani pilot who participated in one of the wars create myths and imaginations about your being the most distinguished, and this has become ridiculous. Extremely

Egypt did not enter many wars after the October War for a simple reason. Israel does not want to go to war with a big country like Egypt again. The Turks fled the confrontation in front of the Egyptian army in Libya. Is our being the strongest and our enemies betraying us because we do not have the ability
Pakistan does not have the capabilities to even make maneuvers like Qadar-2020 or HASM-2020, and it does not have extensive maneuver capabilities like what Egypt does with dozens of countries and does not have complex and varied training facilities like Egypt. It is clear that in order for you to assemble a low-level plane you think yourselves are superior. Egypt is basically not interested in Pakistan nor Pakistan pilots and if the Egyptians think you are really good and there is a benefit from training with you, we would have held training exercises with you, just as we do with Greece, France, America, England, Italy and NATO. Do not live in illusions and everyone knows its size and value.

What the Heck did I just srsly read?
 

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What the Heck did I just srsly read?
You read the fantasy of an egyptian who can't beat a country of 6 million people, and weaving fantasy tales here of their superiority. He needs to get out more from his desert tent. The heat has gone to his head.
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You are always trying to create an illusory superiority of the Pakistan Air Force and forget the most important thing
Pakistan was defeated in all its major wars with India
Defeated in War of 65
It was dismembered in the 71st war and Bangladesh broke away from any illusory superiority it speaks of

The Pakistani pilot was superior in his ability to breathe at high altitudes and was accustomed to the lack of oxygen of the old aircraft.
Pakistanis are demonstrating their superiority over the Indians by shooting down an old MiG-21, whether by the F-16 or the JF-17. We let you talk a lot and create for themselves an illusory victory, and we do not object, not just because of your conviction or your abilities, but simply because we do not want to enter into an argument in matters that do not accuse us.

Even the Arab-Israeli wars, Egypt in 73 triumphed over Israel with lagging planes, the MiG 17 and the MiG 21 surpassed the Mirage 3 and the Phantom at the hands of the Egyptians, and we have the longest air battle in which we won. You by a Pakistani pilot who participated in one of the wars create myths and imaginations about your being the most distinguished, and this has become ridiculous. Extremely

Egypt did not enter many wars after the October War for a simple reason. Israel does not want to go to war with a big country like Egypt again. The Turks fled the confrontation in front of the Egyptian army in Libya. Is our being the strongest and our enemies betraying us because we do not have the ability
Pakistan does not have the capabilities to even make maneuvers like Qadar-2020 or HASM-2020, and it does not have extensive maneuver capabilities like what Egypt does with dozens of countries and does not have complex and varied training facilities like Egypt. It is clear that in order for you to assemble a low-level plane you think yourselves are superior. Egypt is basically not interested in Pakistan nor Pakistan pilots and if the Egyptians think you are really good and there is a benefit from training with you, we would have held training exercises with you, just as we do with Greece, France, America, England, Italy and NATO. Do not live in illusions and everyone knows its size and value.

Save you breath here. You along with other incompetent arab armed forces got all the fancy toys, but no guts. Go ahead show us how good you are by crossing sinai into Israel. End of the story. Go back to the tent you crowled out of.
 
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Well that's a bit perplexing. Egypt has the the American F-16s , Chinese J-7s, Russian MiG-29Ms, French F-3 Rafael's, Russian Su-35s, French Mirage-2000s and then possible Russian MiG-35s. Now the want to go for the Sino-Pak JF-17 Thunder?

Also, a follow up question, given the historical background of Egyptian Air Force, would they be getting the Meteor BVR Missiles to go with Rafales?
 

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Wait why would they be scared of their papa and new father
Well that's a bit perplexing. Egypt has the the American F-16s , Chinese J-7s, Russian MiG-29Ms, French F-3 Rafael's, Russian Su-35s, French Mirage-2000s and then possible Russian MiG-35s. Now the want to go for the Sino-Pak JF-17 Thunder?

Also, a follow up question, given the historical background of Egyptian Air Force, would they be getting the Meteor BVR Missiles to go with Rafales?
No just MICA
Non of expensive EAF toys have good BVRs which is honestly weird
 

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Well that's a bit perplexing. Egypt has the the American F-16s , Chinese J-7s, Russian MiG-29Ms, French F-3 Rafael's, Russian Su-35s, French Mirage-2000s and then possible Russian MiG-35s. Now the want to go for the Sino-Pak JF-17 Thunder?

Also, a follow up question, given the historical background of Egyptian Air Force, would they be getting the Meteor BVR Missiles to go with Rafales?
Yes the Meteor is coming to the EAF.. it was signed on in the first deal just like the Scalp..But it works only on the F3R version of Rafale.. Egypt and France are currently upgrading their fighters to that standard,,
 

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You read the fantasy of an egyptian who can't beat a country of 6 million people, and weaving fantasy tales here of their superiority. He needs to get out more from his desert tent. The heat has gone to his head.
Save you breath here. You along with other incompetent arab armed forces got all the fancy toys, but no guts. Go ahead show us how good you are by crossing sinai into Israel. End of the story. Go back to the tent you crowled out of.
Pakistan has a good airforce and very good pilots.. but you are very mistaken in your assessments about Arab Air forces and their capabilities..Not sure if it is lack of knowledge, dumbness or jealousy that are motivating you..

As for Arab guts.. you seem so ignorant that you have forgotten that these Arabs have spread Islam fighting the most powerful empires and armies of those times..and with just swords and bows.. meaning face to face, one on one.. which is real guts that you seem not to know anything about..
 

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Pakistan has a good airforce and very good pilots.. but you are very mistaken in your assessments about Arab Air forces and their capabilities..Not sure if it is lack of knowledge, dumbness or jealousy that are motivating you..

As for Arab guts.. you seem so ignorant that you have forgotten that these Arabs have spread Islam fighting the most powerful empires and armies of those times..and with just swords and bows.. meaning face to face, one on one.. which is real guts that you seem not to know anything about..
I was only responding to that supremacist egyptian, we are not disparaging the legendary exploits of our islamic warriors. We are strictly talking about our modern contemporary world.
 
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Pakistan has a good airforce and very good pilots.. but you are very mistaken in your assessments about Arab Air forces and their capabilities..Not sure if it is lack of knowledge, dumbness or jealousy that are motivating you..

As for Arab guts.. you seem so ignorant that you have forgotten that these Arabs have spread Islam fighting the most powerful empires and armies of those times..and with just swords and bows.. meaning face to face, one on one.. which is real guts that you seem not to know anything about..
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Tired of yourself with him the topic is simple
He has a weapon that came at a wrong time with wrong specifications

No respectable Air Force personnel are interested in this thing
A good product imposes itself and the bad thing is that no one cares about the matter in the utmost simplicity.

If we do not buy this aircraft of modest performance, our weapons are inferior and our capabilities are weak, and the solution must be to buy this plane so that it becomes happy and satisfied with us.

A product that has been rejected for many years, and we know how to protect our airspace, far from using this plane, the issue is already over


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Some deal with us as if we were naive and think that they can give us the product of the rejected because it is bad and ineffective, and they understand that you have put yourselves in a disastrous and very bad situation by relying on an aircraft that can only confront the antique aircraft of the third generation or the beginnings of the fourth generation
The last point is that the Chinese missiles PL-15 do not give it a good evaluation. Rather, its existence is dangerous because there is no guarantee of its operatives. A fact of it, especially that it is promoted in a series of lies. It is an amazing combination with the aircraft called JF-17
 

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Tired of yourself with him the topic is simple
He has a weapon that came at a wrong time with wrong specifications

No respectable Air Force personnel are interested in this thing
A good product imposes itself and the bad thing is that no one cares about the matter in the utmost simplicity.

If we do not buy this aircraft of modest performance, our weapons are inferior and our capabilities are weak, and the solution must be to buy this plane so that it becomes happy and satisfied with us.

A product that has been rejected for many years, and we know how to protect our airspace, far from using this plane, the issue is already over


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Some deal with us as if we were naive and think that they can give us the product of the rejected because it is bad and ineffective, and they understand that you have put yourselves in a disastrous and very bad situation by relying on an aircraft that can only confront the antique aircraft of the third generation or the beginnings of the fourth generation
The last point is that the Chinese missiles PL-15 do not give it a good evaluation. Rather, its existence is dangerous because there is no guarantee of its operatives. A fact of it, especially that it is promoted in a series of lies. It is an amazing combination with the aircraft called JF-17
Egypt might simply procure the JF-17 Blk 3.. because it needs to replace the J-7s, the Mirage 5 and, the F-4 the Mig-21.. mostly if it comes with ToT and local production ..it can be very interesting.. there are other options.. but the JF-17 Blk 3 seem to be the best replacement at those conditions..Egypt can thus keep it as it is or enhance it with a French or other western engine and Italian AESA radar and an EW suite and avionics either from France or Italy too.. and most likely much more systems..
 
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You read the fantasy of an egyptian who can't beat a country of 6 million people, and weaving fantasy tales here of their superiority. He needs to get out more from his desert tent. The heat has gone to his head.
He seems Indian by the way he comments. Possibly a LARper.

I mean which Egyptian would gloat the Indian military against the pakistan military in the wars we fought?
 

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