• Friday, August 7, 2020

Why Youthful, Conservative Pakistan Is a Coronavirus Bright Spot

Discussion in 'COVID-19 Coronavirus' started by crankthatskunk, Aug 2, 2020 at 4:31 PM.

  1. crankthatskunk

    crankthatskunk SENIOR MEMBER

    Messages:
    3,604
    Joined:
    May 20, 2011
    Ratings:
    +2 / 6,999 / -0
    Country:
    United Kingdom
    Location:
    United Kingdom
    Aug. 1, 2020 12:00 pm ET

    ISLAMABAD—Two months ago, the coronavirus seemed to be spreading out of control in Pakistan, a poor, chaotic country of more than 200 million with a weak health-care system that was seemingly headed for disaster. It was being compared with Brazil, another developing country with a similar population size that has been ravaged by the disease.

    Instead, Pakistan has dramatically reversed course, recording a sharp decline in coronavirus cases and deaths, which are both down more than 80% from their peaks. Major hospitals report beds are freeing up in previously overflowing coronavirus wards, even in the nation’s biggest and hardest-hit city, Karachi. The tally of patients on ventilators has halved over the past moPakistan has just one megacity, Karachi, while India has several. And Karachi isn’t a high-rise city. Denser urban settings given the virus the best opportunity to spread. In Pakistan, the virus remained confined not just to the bigger cities but to pockets within those cities, officials say.

    Dr. Adnan Khan, a doctor who is chief knowledge officer at Research and Development Solutions, a consulting firm, said social circles in any country are limited to family, friends, work colleagues and more. Some economic research suggests that social networks are smaller in poorer countries, he said.


    The virus infected much of the part of the population that was exposed to it in Pakistan and for now, it may have run out of places to go, he said. Still, there are likely other parts of the population that remain vulnerable to the disease, particularly in smaller towns and rural areas—though it is harder for the virus to spread there, Dr. Khan said.

    For supporters of the prime minister, the shrinking coronavirus threat is a political triumph. Critics earlier predicted that his strategy would lead to catastrophe and his ouster. Pakistan’s already powerful army, which has taken a very prominent role in the coronavirus response, has also gotten a boost in public esteem, analysts say.

    Yet even as government officials are eager to take credit, they admit they don’t fully understand how the turnaround happened. Mr. Khan has said he wasn’t expecting the numbers to come down so fast.

    Officials say complacency could still reverse people’s behavior and spread the disease. Schools will likely open in September—same for wedding halls. The government has appealed to the public to exercise restraint at the festival of Eid this weekend. As farmers return from selling their animals for slaughter in the cities, they could carry the virus into rural areas for the first time, experts warn.

    “This is not the time to declare victory,” said Dr. Sultan, the prime minister’s adviser. “This is the time for humble introspection and planning ahead.”
    nth.


    This is all happening as Pakistan’s neighbours to the east and west—India and Iran—are still reporting that infection rates are climbing steadily. Even more surprising, the progress in Pakistan came after Prime Minister Imran Khan resisted advice from the World Health Organization, declaring in May that lockdowns are too costly for the poor and reopening the economy.

    upload_2020-8-2_12-27-24.png

    upload_2020-8-2_12-28-8.png

    upload_2020-8-2_12-28-46.png

    upload_2020-8-2_12-29-21.png

    “We charted the tough course between a strict lockdown and completely opening up,” said Dr. Faisal Sultan, an infectious diseases physician brought in by Mr. Khan as his adviser for Covid-19.

    Health officials haven't declared a win. They worry that progress could be undone, particularly with the approach of two Muslim holidays—Eid al-Adha, which falls this weekend, and Muharram—that traditionally involve public gatherings across the country.

    Relatively low testing levels in Pakistan have also raised questions about the scale of the decline, but medical experts say the turnaround trend is clear. Tellingly, the proportion of tests coming back positive has more than halved, official figures show.

    Pakistan locked its economy down in March, early on in its outbreak, which kept the virus from spreading widely while the population stayed home. But after restrictions were lifted in May, many Pakistanis celebrated the end of the fasting month of Ramadan with shopping sprees and visits to family.

    That unleashed a burst of infections.

    The rapid spread jolted people into changing their behaviour, with more mask-wearing, hand-washing and maintaining social distance, Dr. Sultan said. The preventive messages increased from the government and public service campaigns. The prime minister also started wearing a mask in public.

    upload_2020-8-2_12-30-33.png

    The government switched to a strategy of targeted lock downs of local areas where a cluster of cases had arisen, sometimes just on one street. Residential data and experience that health officials gained over the past few years as part of a massive push to vaccinate against polio were leveraged to pinpoint trouble spots.

    Schools, wedding halls and restaurants remained closed. Long-distance travel is still restricted.

    These days, Dr. Faisal Mahmood, a professor at the teaching hospital of Karachi’s Aga Khan University, said he is seeing more people in his clinic who are having problems recovering from Covid-19 than those currently infected.

    “The drop is real, though I was skeptical initially,” Dr. Mahmood said.

    From a peak of nearly 7,000 new cases of infection a day in June, on Friday the country reported 903 new cases. This week, Pakistan recorded its lowest death count in three months, with 27 on Friday.

    So far, fewer than 6,000 people have died, with 278,000 recorded cases of infection. Brazil has about the same size population as Pakistan, but has reported more than 92,000 deaths and 2.7 million cases, according to Johns Hopkins University. At Pakistan’s peak, which came in mid-June, major hospitals in big cities reported being overwhelmed. The highest number of patients to die in a day was 153, on June 20.

    “The decline in Pakistan is promising,” said Anna Vassall, a professor at the London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine. “But we are not yet certain as to the cause, nor how long it will last. The spread of Covid is driven by social behavior and it is difficult to measure how that has changed.”

    Modeling had predicted countries like Pakistan would broadly follow coronavirus trends seen in the West, producing some grim forecasts. A simulation from Imperial College London produced a worst-case scenario of 30,000 deaths a day in early August.

    But Pakistan has some unique characteristics that have likely been helpful in beating the virus back, health experts say. In particular, the young population and conservative, male-dominated Muslim society has limited exposure to the virus, they say.

    Just 4% of Pakistan’s population is over 65—compared with 16% in the U.S. and 23% in Italy, according to United Nations data. The average age in Pakistan is 22, more than a decade younger than Brazil, and 25 years younger than Italy. And there are no bars and nightclubs. There are also no institutionalized homes for the elderly, sites of deadly outbreaks elsewhere. Women tend not to go out of the home to work, meaning the workforce is overwhelmingly made up of men who are mostly young.



    https://www.wsj.com/articles/why-yo...kaqfz55cuu5uxp&reflink=article_whatsapp_share
     
    • Thanks Thanks x 1
  2. Shahzaz ud din

    Shahzaz ud din SENIOR MEMBER

    Messages:
    6,915
    Joined:
    Jun 12, 2017
    Ratings:
    +12 / 10,989 / -0
    Country:
    Pakistan
    Location:
    Canada
    Why Youthful, Conservative Pakistan Is a Coronavirus Bright Spot
    Two months ago, Pakistan was drawing unfavorable Covid-19 comparisons with Brazil

    [​IMG]

    ISLAMABAD—Two months ago, the coronavirus seemed to be spreading out of control in Pakistan, a poor, chaotic country of more than 200 million with a weak health-care system that was seemingly headed for disaster. It was being compared with Brazil, another developing country with a similar population size that has been ravaged by the disease.

    Instead, Pakistan has dramatically reversed course, recording a sharp decline in coronavirus cases and deaths, which are both down more than 80% from their peaks. Major hospitals report beds are freeing up in previously overflowing coronavirus wards, even in the nation’s biggest and hardest-hit city, Karachi. The tally of patients on ventilators has halved over the past month.

    This is all happening as Pakistan’s neighbours to the east and west—India and Iran—are still reporting that infection rates are climbing steadily. Even more surprising, the progress in Pakistan came after Prime Minister Imran Khan resisted advice from the World Health Organization, declaring in May that lockdowns are too costly for the poor and reopening the economy.

    Bending the CurvePakistan's coronavirus figures come down

    [​IMG]

    [​IMG]

    [​IMG]

    [​IMG]
    “We charted the tough course between a strict lockdown and completely opening up,” said Dr. Faisal Sultan, an infectious diseases physician brought in by Mr. Khan as his adviser for Covid-19.

    Health officials haven't declared a win. They worry that progress could be undone, particularly with the approach of two Muslim holidays—Eid al-Adha, which falls this weekend, and Muharram—that traditionally involve public gatherings across the country.

    Relatively low testing levels in Pakistan have also raised questions about the scale of the decline, but medical experts say the turnaround trend is clear. Tellingly, the proportion of tests coming back positive has more than halved, official figures show.

    Pakistan locked its economy down in March, early on in its outbreak, which kept the virus from spreading widely while the population stayed home. But after restrictions were lifted in May, many Pakistanis celebrated the end of the fasting month of Ramadan with shopping sprees and visits to family.

    That unleashed a burst of infections.

    The rapid spread jolted people into changing their behaviour, with more mask-wearing, hand-washing and maintaining social distance, Dr. Sultan said. The preventive messages increased from the government and public service campaigns. The prime minister also started wearing a mask in public.


    [​IMG]

    The government switched to a strategy of targeted lockdowns of local areas where a cluster of cases had arisen, sometimes just on one street. Residential data and experience that health officials gained over the past few years as part of a massive push to vaccinate against polio were leveraged to pinpoint trouble spots.

    Schools, wedding halls and restaurants remained closed. Long-distance travel is still restricted.

    These days, Dr. Faisal Mahmood, a professor at the teaching hospital of Karachi’s Aga Khan University, said he is seeing more people in his clinic who are having problems recovering from Covid-19 than those currently infected.

    “The drop is real, though I was skeptical initially,” Dr. Mahmood said.

    From a peak of nearly 7,000 new cases of infection a day in June, on Friday the country reported 903 new cases. This week, Pakistan recorded its lowest death count in three months, with 27 on Friday.

    So far, fewer than 6,000 people have died, with 278,000 recorded cases of infection. Brazil has about the same size population as Pakistan, but has reported more than 92,000 deaths and 2.7 million cases, according to Johns Hopkins University. At Pakistan’s peak, which came in mid-June, major hospitals in big cities reported being overwhelmed. The highest number of patients to die in a day was 153, on June 20.

    “The decline in Pakistan is promising,” said Anna Vassall, a professor at the London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine. “But we are not yet certain as to the cause, nor how long it will last. The spread of Covid is driven by social behavior and it is difficult to measure how that has changed.”

    Modeling had predicted countries like Pakistan would broadly follow coronavirus trends seen in the West, producing some grim forecasts. A simulation from Imperial College London produced a worst-case scenario of 30,000 deaths a day in early August.

    But Pakistan has some unique characteristics that have likely been helpful in beating the virus back, health experts say. In particular, the young population and conservative, male-dominated Muslim society has limited exposure to the virus, they say.

    Just 4% of Pakistan’s population is over 65—compared with 16% in the U.S. and 23% in Italy, according to United Nations data. The average age in Pakistan is 22, more than a decade younger than Brazil, and 25 years younger than Italy. And there are no bars and nightclubs. There are also no institutionalized homes for the elderly, sites of deadly outbreaks elsewhere. Women tend not to go out of the home to work, meaning the workforce is overwhelmingly made up of men who are mostly young.


    [​IMG]

    Pakistan has just one megacity, Karachi, while India has several. And Karachi isn’t a high-rise city. Denser urban settings given the virus the best opportunity to spread. In Pakistan, the virus remained confined not just to the bigger cities but to pockets within those cities, officials say.

    Dr. Adnan Khan, a doctor who is chief knowledge officer at Research and Development Solutions, a consulting firm, said social circles in any country are limited to family, friends, work colleagues and more. Some economic research suggests that social networks are smaller in poorer countries, he said.


    The virus infected much of the part of the population that was exposed to it in Pakistan and for now, it may have run out of places to go, he said. Still, there are likely other parts of the population that remain vulnerable to the disease, particularly in smaller towns and rural areas—though it is harder for the virus to spread there, Dr. Khan said.

    For supporters of the prime minister, the shrinking coronavirus threat is a political triumph. Critics earlier predicted that his strategy would lead to catastrophe and his ouster. Pakistan’s already powerful army, which has taken a very prominent role in the coronavirus response, has also gotten a boost in public esteem, analysts say.

    Yet even as government officials are eager to take credit, they admit they don’t fully understand how the turnaround happened. Mr. Khan has said he wasn’t expecting the numbers to come down so fast.

    Officials say complacency could still reverse people’s behavior and spread the disease. Schools will likely open in September—same for wedding halls. The government has appealed to the public to exercise restraint at the festival of Eid this weekend. As farmers return from selling their animals for slaughter in the cities, they could carry the virus into rural areas for the first time, experts warn.

    “This is not the time to declare victory,” said Dr. Sultan, the prime minister’s adviser. “This is the time for humble introspection and planning ahead.”

    The Wall Street Journal


    Advertisement
     
    • Thanks Thanks x 3
  3. Rafi

    Rafi ELITE MEMBER

    Messages:
    10,566
    Joined:
    Jul 23, 2010
    Ratings:
    +15 / 16,281 / -4
    Country:
    Pakistan
    Location:
    Pakistan
    The battle may have been won, but the war is still on.
     
    • Thanks Thanks x 3
  4. Pan-Islamic-Pakistan

    Pan-Islamic-Pakistan ELITE MEMBER

    Messages:
    11,165
    Joined:
    May 28, 2018
    Ratings:
    +5 / 22,367 / -1
    Country:
    Pakistan
    Location:
    United States
    Great news. Thanks for sharing.
     
  5. xyx007

    xyx007 FULL MEMBER

    Messages:
    1,693
    Joined:
    Nov 27, 2017
    Ratings:
    +2 / 2,488 / -0
    Country:
    Pakistan
    Location:
    Pakistan
    What a bleak report from Royal College of Imperial published on Jun 15 said The research, which is sponsored by the government of UK, shows the projected deaths from coronavirus in case of a lockdown or otherwise in different countries, except the US and the UK.
    We proved it wrong this imperial college report which wanted Pakistan complete shutdown intentionally to devasted its economy but we surprised the entire world and prove this report wrong.
    https://www.thenews.com.pk/print/672563-2-229m-people-to-die-in-pakistan-if-lockdown-not-imposed
    Two months ago, Pakistan was drawing unfavorable Covid-19 comparisons with Brazil


    We all should be thankful to Allah Blessing and pay the shukran pray. and appreciate the Gov's smart lockdown policies.
    Sindh reports less than 200 Covid-19 cases for the first time since April

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/why-yo...stan-is-a-coronavirus-bright-spot-11596297600
     
    Last edited: Aug 2, 2020 at 8:41 PM
    • Thanks Thanks x 13
  6. Pakistan Ka Beta

    Pakistan Ka Beta FULL MEMBER

    Messages:
    1,037
    Joined:
    Aug 7, 2019
    Ratings:
    +2 / 2,543 / -0
    Country:
    Pakistan
    Location:
    Pakistan
    Alhamdulillah :-) . ALLAH Pak ka bohat bohat Shukar . Agay b ALLAH Pak khair farmaye Aameen .
     
    • Thanks Thanks x 7
  7. Path-Finder

    Path-Finder ELITE MEMBER

    Messages:
    18,485
    Joined:
    Feb 7, 2013
    Ratings:
    +8 / 26,164 / -7
    Country:
    Pakistan
    Location:
    United Kingdom
    thank you nawaj sharif.
     
    • Thanks Thanks x 1
  8. ziaulislam

    ziaulislam ELITE MEMBER

    Messages:
    12,454
    Joined:
    Apr 22, 2010
    Ratings:
    +11 / 10,837 / -2
    Country:
    Pakistan
    Location:
    United States
    thank you for last 30 years poor health system that systematically killed off elderly vulnerable population through regular flu and pneumonia due to lack of flu vaccine and Pneumovax vaccine(13 & 23) which are regular thing in every second first and some third world countries including our neighbourhood countries like iran
     
    • Thanks Thanks x 4
  9. vi-va

    vi-va SENIOR MEMBER

    Messages:
    3,264
    Joined:
    Jan 23, 2019
    Ratings:
    +0 / 7,494 / -1
    Country:
    China
    Location:
    United States
    Hope Pakistan can lower the news case to double digit soon. Doing much better than other South Asia countries.
    upload_2020-8-3_0-18-2.png

    upload_2020-8-3_0-17-38.png
     
    • Thanks Thanks x 11
  10. Vikki

    Vikki FULL MEMBER

    Messages:
    879
    Joined:
    Jan 31, 2018
    Ratings:
    +1 / 663 / -19
    Country:
    India
    Location:
    India
    Hmm..so the vulnerable population is alrrady dead...
     
  11. Waqas

    Waqas FULL MEMBER

    Messages:
    1,309
    Joined:
    Aug 11, 2015
    Ratings:
    +2 / 1,848 / -1
    Country:
    Pakistan
    Location:
    Pakistan
    Locking down only specific areas where cases were being reported in some cases to individual buildings and streets proved to be an effective strategy.
     
    • Thanks Thanks x 5
  12. Hiptullha

    Hiptullha SENIOR MEMBER

    Messages:
    4,222
    Joined:
    Feb 13, 2014
    Ratings:
    +5 / 5,084 / -4
    Country:
    Pakistan
    Location:
    Pakistan
    Yes. No old or sick people exist in Pakistan. There was an old people exodus by Jihadis so we could prepare for Corona devi and look better than India where it's spiralling out of control.
     
    • Thanks Thanks x 5
  13. Waqas

    Waqas FULL MEMBER

    Messages:
    1,309
    Joined:
    Aug 11, 2015
    Ratings:
    +2 / 1,848 / -1
    Country:
    Pakistan
    Location:
    Pakistan
    Positive cases are declining at a rapid rate in full spectrum of the population regardless of age, if his "theory" has any truth in it than it would only lower the death rates, not the cases that is being reported.
     
    • Thanks Thanks x 4
  14. Pappa Alpha

    Pappa Alpha FULL MEMBER

    Messages:
    227
    Joined:
    Jul 5, 2020
    Ratings:
    +0 / 293 / -0
    Country:
    Pakistan
    Location:
    Canada
    Yes, thank you. People ought to use their brains for once.
     
    • Thanks Thanks x 1
  15. Death Professor

    Death Professor FULL MEMBER

    Messages:
    1,873
    Joined:
    Sep 3, 2018
    Ratings:
    +0 / 3,366 / -0
    Country:
    Pakistan
    Location:
    Pakistan
    Pakistan:

    pakistan-population-2020-08-02-macrotrends.png
    Pakistan - Historical Death Rate Data
    Year
    Death Rate Growth Rate
    2020 6.884 -0.720%
    2019 6.934 -0.700%
    2018 6.983 -0.870%
    2017 7.044 -0.860%
    2016 7.105 -0.840%
    2015 7.165 -0.840%
    2014 7.226 -0.840%
    2013 7.287 -1.630%
    2012 7.408 -1.610%
    2011 7.529 -1.570%
    2010 7.649 -1.560%
    2009 7.770 -1.530%
    2008 7.891 -1.400%
    2007 8.003 -1.390%
    2006 8.116 -1.360%
    2005 8.228 -1.350%
    2004 8.341 -1.320%


    US:
    united-states-population-2020-08-02-macrotrends.png

    United States - Historical Death Rate Data
    Year
    Death Rate Growth Rate
    2020 8.880 1.120%
    2019 8.782 1.120%
    2018 8.685 1.220%
    2017 8.580 1.240%
    2016 8.475 1.270%
    2015 8.369 1.270%
    2014 8.264 1.290%
    2013 8.159 0.090%
    2012 8.152 0.090%
    2011 8.145 0.090%
    2010 8.138 0.090%
    2009 8.131 0.090%
    2008 8.124 -0.960%
    2007 8.203 -0.950%
    2006 8.282 -0.960%
    2005 8.362 -0.940%
    2004 8.441 -0.930%


    Come on man, give credit where credit is due. The number of cases also decreased, its not like every one is getting infected and getting healed. Sure we have a poor health system, but it still better than our neighbors, where there is blatant discrimination dues to caste, religion etc. Things are going in the right direction due to health cards etc. Slowly but surely, things will be better.
     
    • Thanks Thanks x 10