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Why Pakistan needs an Aircraft Carrier and long Range bombers

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  1. maverick1977

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    To most of you this might come as a surprise that Pakistan policy for upholding justice as envisioned in constitution to help the oppressed anywhere in the world, requires not only diplomatic push to champion for the oppressed but also to use force projection to subjugate that change. The global powers have failed to protect many persecuted minorities and nations, a new order is needed

    in order to push this global agenda to help the persecuted, Pakistan need planes like 4 to 5 sq of H6, 2 aircraft fleet along with 5 Type 75 for 1 to 2 brigade size deployment.

    Can this new global alliance include Pakistan and new nations like china? What do you folks thiink?
     
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    the economic situtaion was quite miserable . rahi sahi kasar corona and locust nay pori ker der hay. i dont know how pakistanis can dream of air craft careers and long range air crafts when people are worried about their lives and food. i think lock down has taken a serious toll on the mental health of people.
     
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    JH-7, Su-34, Xian H6K
     
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    Let's start at home. Don't need any long-range bombers for that.
     
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    Building one is not going to be difficult, operational and maintenance cost adds to it. the way the global cold wwar is accelerating, strong alliances are needed.
     
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    I firmly agree with author. However lack of motivation from Islamabad & weak economic activity from our country canceals this idea.
     
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    we need this badly , its more important then any weapon on earth


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    We all have that, but we need to use it more and use is it for good things not for searching 'hot sex' on YouTube.
     
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    Imran, i like the sarcasm, but do u think pakistan needs this or debunking it completely.. global world order needs a balance, right now there is no balance
     
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    sir we need something better . hospitals schools jobs and infrastructure . we are poor country we need human development now .
     
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    My house had 6 locusts in it today that my mosquito racket took a good 30-40 seconds of zapzapzapzapzap to neutralise them. I think we have to worry about our economy because 1 carrier + defenses for it are probably more costly than our entire defence budget.
     
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    I concur. if a clean up starts happening in Pakistan, with complete credit card based monitization strategy where even a cart holder can get a subsidized smartphone to charge for sales through LTE connection, corruption can be controlled. Exports need to go above 32B and go beyond 60B with 5% GDP . I firmly believe that Pakistan can start the industrialization and heavy shipbuilding at the same time the way HIT was built in Pakistan for small weaponary. its time global world order finds a balance.
     
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    sumey sub chiye bus koi paisay bhar de is k keu k humare pas toh nahe hain :undecided:
     
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    How do you protect a carrier or long-ranged bomber? Pakistan can't call upon the various bases the US or UK can, even China struggles to project power and it has long-range escorts and replenishment capabilities. Ignore for a second the US who are in a league of there own and look at Russia, China or India and what they sail with when they put their capital ships to sea.

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    ...all to protect one Kirov class, Petr Vilikiy, the flagship of the Russian Northern Fleet as it sails near the Norwegian coast, under constant Norwegian eyes.
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    Pakistan's Navy is wholly inadequate to provide long-range protection for capital naval assets. You can dream of carriers, but there is a lot more to power projection then one ship and some aircraft. They require their own support team or auxiliary ships and defenders and that's expensive and resource intensive.
     
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    and I want 15-20 Tu-160s.totally non negotiable.or we can totally sell the bodies of corona deceased ones to WHO or USA for some extra buck.