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Why Pakistan Loves the F-16 Fighting Falcon

Discussion in 'Pakistan Air Force' started by maximuswarrior, Nov 30, 2019.

  1. Alternatiiv

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    I am saying that windjammer shared the listing and it clearly showed that the kills were attributed to two F-16 jets.

    Sometimes I feel like you have the mental capacity of a fish.
     
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    Americans understood well, what happened on 27th February and they felt like struck by thunder.
    Only mistake from Pakistan side was quick revelation by ISPR, that it was jF-17 at heart of operation, which they tried to cover up later but it's too late, enough have been spilled to connect dots.
     
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    If US have no issues and are light years ahead of the world then why heavy restrictions and monitoring on PAF F-16?? Why Pakistan can not use them as it want?? Why F-16s can't be pitched against non US / NATO allies??
     
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    Something, something it is still good technology and they want to monitor it.
     
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    we love jf-17 now more then f16:partay:
     
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    No they are also scared that China or Russia could understand how their tech works, scared US.

    Both China and Russia have not stopped other countries to pitch their built fighter jets against US made ones.
     
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    What are the reasons behind the US offering the F16 Block 70/72 Viper to Pakistan?
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    Allan John Belisle
    , former Lawyer at Retirement (1967-2019)
    Answered Tue

    The following is an adequate answer via an opinion given by Khafee, a Staff member administrator of the World Defense magazine:
    Pakistan Air Force has been offered 18 to 24 Blk 70 F16's manufactured by Lockheed Martin. The current existing fleet, all of it will undergo an upgrade to the Blk 70/72 specs, as well as Service Life Extension Program (SLEP) to bring the life of the current aircrafts to 12,000hrs.

    " PAF has to yet accept the offer, or announce it publicly.
    The Question is: "Why is the US reaching out to the Pakistan?"
    Two reasons:
    1) China - Pakistan has slid so far into the Chinese camp, that is now a de facto province. Something which is extremely worrying for the Americans.

    The Feb hostilities saw 3 PLAAF squadrons go to standby - in order to assist Pakistan if needed. PLAN sent 4 SSK , and 3 boomers, at least two Type 55 destroyers, other assets were also sent later after the ISI chiefs visit. PLA also went to full war time alert, ready to move in.

    This is the main reason why IN choose to sleep out the hostilities.

    2) India - India's incompetence hasn't gone unnoticed, neither has them becoming an economic threat to the US. To contain them, and move Pak away from the Chinese camp, to whatever extent possible. These are the two goals.

    The US has a list of some 10~20 companies that are critical to National Security, LM, Boeing Raytheon, Cisco etc. Sensitive data has been steadily flowing to India, China, Russia, Israel, courtesy of Indians. The deep state has realized its folly, AND no president will work against the deep state.

    The trade balance being lopsided, doesn't help them either.

    Imran Khan, wants to make a change, a fundamental change in Pak, but decades old rot, bogs him down. He also has the support of the Army. All these things combined, has assured the US that Pakistan can be a useful ally after all.

    Last but not the least, Pakistan's oil reserves slightly more than the UK's at 21bn BBL (min) doesn't hurt it either. By comparison Oman's Reserves are at 5.3bn BBL (approx).

    Once all options are exploited, Pakistan will be exporting 1.2m bpd ~ 1.4m bpd. (this figure is after deducting domestic consumption).

    Given the above, it is in US's national interest to rekindle its relationship with an old ally."
     
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    So long as search engines keep counting hits on such articles,
    someone will keep writing more.
    That is how it works.

    If you want something to not exist, stop consuming it.
     
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    40x F16 in 1980s
    23 x F16 A/B from US
    19 x F16C/D
    13 x F16 from Jordan

    this is from the article

    but this is not correct
     
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    LOL, he is Indian national off course he will toe the Indian line.
     
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    This is not just something. I have heard this narrative on the highest level and so have you. We have been hearing it for years. The Americans used to brag and blackmail how we depended on their F-16s against India. Today that is not the case anymore. The Americans are sore losers and cannot accept the reality. Why keep bragging about something that is far from reality?

    Like so many things, the Americans were initially seriously reluctant to give F-16s to PAF. They had to because they needed our assistance with their shitty war against Russia.

    This has little to do with consumption and more with American chest-thumping. The truth is that the US has an ego problem and it cannot let go.

    The US has lost all credit in Pakistan. Their constant pleading has no effect.
     
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    It is confirmed by PAF that JF-17 was used to shoot down Indian aircraft.
     
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    Guys, with over 40 years in operational service with around 24 air arms around the world, the F-16 is a very mature project with an unparallel combat record.....even today the new versions are creating new challenges. The JF-17 is a relatively new platform and in due course, it will mature into a potent system.
    However although the JF-17s were very much part of operation swift retort, there should be no doubt that it were the American weapons and systems that flamed IAF tails and made it bug out of the battlefield.
     
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