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Both left the caste system completely untouched, and it remains as it was before Islamic invasions began.

The invaders were able to ban so many things like Sati, temple prostitution, breast tax, etc. then why not caste system?

Did the Muslim/British rulers think there would be revolt if the ones at the top of the hierarchy lost all their privileges?

It's a pity that more than a billion Indians lost their only chance to break free of their lowly caste status.
making the brahmin elite angry was a good way to get a rebellion.
 

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Well abolishing caste system now will harms lower caste people. Generation of discrimination, made weak socially and financially. Current Indian constitution provides Reservation in education, jobs and politics and also anti discrimination laws to protect them.
 

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Both left the caste system completely untouched, and it remains as it was before Islamic invasions began.

The invaders were able to ban so many things like Sati, temple prostitution, breast tax, etc. then why not caste system?

Did the Muslim/British rulers think there would be revolt if the ones at the top of the hierarchy lost all their privileges?

It's a pity that more than a billion Indians lost their only chance to break free of their lowly caste status.
Muslim rulers and British rulers were a minority over the vast Hindu population. Hindus divided among various castes provided a great opportunity to these minority rulers to play Hindu castes against each other and rule over them. Why would they ban caste system, thus uniting all Hindus against them?
 

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Well abolishing caste system now will harms lower caste people. Generation of discrimination, made weak socially and financially. Current Indian constitution provides Reservation in education, jobs and politics and also anti discrimination laws to protect them.
Caste system needs to be completely uprooted, by basically making the surnames caste agnostic. Those from so-called backward castes that have caste certificates for reservations, can still awail them and subsequently pass these certificates to their descendants.
 

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Can be ascertained by evidence. I think it is called preponderance of evidence.
It is yet to be academically ascertained as to who Sumerians were. Some out of India theory proponents claim them to have been from the Indus who had established trade with Bahrain and forced into mass migration due to climate change.

I am of the view that they were ancient Arabic nomads.

What is your view on the subject matter?
 

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Because it can't be banned.

India has too many kinds of nationalities, languages and traditions. They have too many differences, but why are they willing to identify with themselves as Indians? Because they have the same religion and the same Indian culture. The caste system is one of the most important components of Hinduism and Indian culture.

If the rulers are too impatient to destroy the caste system, it may lead to the destruction of religious and cultural identity. Then India is bound to split.

The caste system can only be improved slowly and cannot be banned suddenly.
 

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It is yet to be academically ascertained as to who Sumerians were. Some out of India theory proponents claim them to have been from the Indus who had established trade with Bahrain and forced into mass migration due to climate change.

I am of the view that they were ancient Arabic nomads.

What is your view on the subject matter?
In my view, original Sumerian settlers were among descendants of Prophet Nuh who migrated from Anatolian Black Sea region.

The original top Vedic caste was the Ruling caste [Encyclopaedia Brittanica]. I have not much doubt that the original ruling caste of India was descendant of Prophet Ibrahim and his wife Kethura from Ur, Sumer. Ur-du in Sumerian means going away from Ur.

Look up a short YouTube video titled "Brahmans or Hindus lost the teachings of Abraham PBUH" made by a Jewish Rabbi. He confuses the Kshatriya Sharif [Deva] Ruling caste from Sumer with the Brahman Aryan caste which originated in the Southern plains of Russia whose language was Sanskrit. But he is right in that the Brahman caste in today's Hinduism modified by later Scythians lost Abrahamic Monotheist teaching.
 
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In my view original Sumerian settlers were among descendants of Prophet Nuh migrating from Anatolian Black Sea region.
Archeological studies show the spread to be from south to north in the marshes.




Ur-du in Sumerian means going away from Ur.
This is a modern concoction. Ur seems to be a popular word for cities at the time.


He confuses the Kshatriya Sharif Ruling caste from Sumer with the Brahman Aryan caste which originated in the Southern plains of Russia and whose language was Sanskrit. But he is right in that the Brahman caste in today's Hinduism modified by later Scythians lost Abrahamic Monotheist teaching.
Sanskrit is a mystery for human kind. It is one of the intriguing lost chapter of our history.

Sumerians do however seem to belong to writing culture while Abram hailed from an oral culture.
 

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Archeological studies show the spread to be from south to north in the marshes.






This is a modern concoction. Ur seems to be a popular word for cities at the time.




Sanskrit is a mystery for human kind. It is one of the intriguing lost chapter of our history.

Sumerians do however seem to belong to writing culture while Abram hailed from an oral culture.
I am talking of the original Sumerian settlers and their language which is classified as language isolate. It means the language is unrelated to any other. The people had to come from somewhere. They brought with them the story of Noah's Ark. We know the Black Sea was created by overflowing water from the Mediterranean Sea over 7000 years ago which coincides with the beginning of the Sumerian civilization.

Sanskrit has Sumerian words. For example, Maha in Sanskrit which means Great also has the same word and meaning in Sumerian. The Sumerians were surrounded by much more numerous proto Semitic people who appropriated Sumerian beliefs, practises, culture and words into Semitic culture. Sumerians developed the first writing but the Sumerian language was not as advanced as Sanskrit language whose sister language is ancient Persian. It is not a mystery where Indo Aryans originated from, the Sintashta culture in Southern Russia.
 

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I am talking of the original Sumerian settlers and their language which is classified as language isolate. It means the language is unrelated to any other. They had to come from somewhere. They brought with them the story of Noah's Ark. We know the Black Sea was created by overflowing water from the Mediterranean Sea over 7000 years ago which coincides with the beginning of the Sumerian civilization.
If they had come from Anatolian plains they would share a language not be as distinct as Latin is to Korean.

With the flood story, there can be drawn conclusion that every flood in early settled spot by humanity would be comparable to end of the world.

if they were semitic or indo Europeans, they would have long been identified and if you are taking climate change into account than they could have come from Adan or Eden from either of the 2 dried rivers that cut across mesopotamian region.
but the Sumerian language was not as advanced as Sanskrit language whose sister language is ancient Persian
That is subjective to how you define what constitutes an advanced language. Most linguist would agree that dialect spoken by one of the aboriginals in Australia is the most advanced human language in the world in terms of communicating data. Its clicks and clocks
 

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Invaders did not ban it because they saw caste system as racism (which it is) and they were all racists themselves. They just got it ready-made for them, why will they dismantle it?
 

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If they had come from Anatolian plains they would share a language not be as distinct as Latin is to Korean.

With the flood story, there can be drawn conclusion that every flood in early settled spot by humanity would be comparable to end of the world.

if they were semitic or indo Europeans, they would have long been identified and if you are taking climate change into account than they could have come from Adan or Eden from either of the 2 dried rivers that cut across mesopotamian region.


That is subjective to how you define what constitutes an advanced language. Most linguist would agree that dialect spoken by one of the aboriginals in Australia is the most advanced human language in the world in terms of communicating data. Its clicks and clocks
No flood like the flooding of the Black sea basin, so epic that people carried the story to different cultures. There is no comparable flooding.

Sumerian was language isolate, that means they were not originally Semitic. I think linguists would agree Sanskrit was more advanced in words and expression than Sumerian 3500 years ago. Sumerian was in decline by this time. It was a liturgical language for centuries [not commonly spoken] before it became entirely extinct over 2000 years ago.
 
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