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Why does Egypt want to acquire Eurofighter Typhoon fighters when it already has Rafale and Su-35 jets

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هل سنرى مقاتلات يوروفايتر تايفون في سلاح الجو المصري قريباً؟


Eurofighter Typhoon is an air superiority aircraft, modern in every sense, difficult to destroy and specifically designed to do so in a hostile environment with a relatively high expectation of its survival rate.

While the SU-35 Flanker has many similar characteristics, it is particularly known for being a high-strength, long-range and solid aircraft that I believe makes it more useful in long-range missions such as performing deep attack missions while also contributing to offensive air superiority missions, mainly to aid in combing. The area before penetrating deep into enemy territory to strike against ground targets or perhaps air assets. They can also be used as mini-aewacs, as they contain powerful avionics, and can be used to steer Eurofighter Typhoons towards targets without having to possess the targets themselves. Furthermore, the Flanker's famous endurance combined with its ability to deploy a greater number of missiles with a longer range means more time on the battlefield, even if the battlefield is far away.

Will we see Eurofighter Typhoon fighters in the Egyptian Air Force soon?


So, if the Flankers are long-range and the Typhoon is controlling the air, what is the role of the Rafale?

The Rafale is more than a multi-role combat aircraft. While the other two are designed to control high altitude, the Rafale is designed to have high survivability no matter where you go and is more suitable for controlling and supporting the battlefield. If it breaks through an enemy air asset at low altitude to perform a strike, you want some of the modern, relatively small, agile, and versatile fighters to be able to intercept it. If you are carrying out a ground attack on the battlefield, a versatile, agile aircraft with ground attack capabilities will be best suited for the mission, and perhaps ground troops or flankers will help it illuminate targets. It is actually a very clever combination of capabilities.


Now there are two other factors worth noting:

First, the operating costs. Relatively large, high-speed, and powerful aircraft with powerful engines cost a lot to stay in the air and strains air superiority aircraft on low-altitude battlefields, thus shortening their life. The smaller Rafale will be cheaper to maintain and operate and will be able to carry out more sorties.

Second, you have to pay attention to Egypt's traditional enemies, especially Israel. The simple truth is that Egypt has had wars with Israel. Think of it in the context of arms suppliers. Egypt learned some harsh lessons in those short wars when they not only want to make sure that they have the equipment, but also to reduce their dependence on a single arms supplier, as it has purchased warplanes from major countries in the manufacture of the latest combat aircraft with the exception of the United States, which is the closest ally. And the main supplier of military equipment to their traditional enemy, Israel. Not surprisingly, Egypt is developing chain relationships with all the advanced combat aircraft manufacturers in neighboring Europe.


https://www.defense-arabic.com/2021/03/01/لماذا-تريد-مصر-الاستحواذ-على-مقاتلات-ي/
 

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Egyptian Armed forces are crazy, they buy modern toothless weapons by asking Aid from other GCC countries, they have no one to fight to.
 

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They can also be used as mini-aewacs, as they contain powerful avionics, and can be used to steer Eurofighter Typhoons towards targets without having to possess the targets themselves.
Great little opinion article there, SC bro thanks for posting it. Here's the funny part I noticed about this incredible modernization of the Air Force that Sisi has implemented: we went from begging for any new aircraft to replace all the old MiG-21s and F-7s and possibly the Mirage Vs etc., to now choosing whether they should purchase the EFT on top of the Rafale, MiG-29M/35, Su-35SE and the huge fleet of F-16s LOL! From one extreme to the other.

The part I quoted is an interesting aspect to this whole effective role that the Typhoon can take on in the EAF. While in possession of 8 E-2C Hawkeyes for AWACs missions, using the Typhoon for mainly that purpose is something that while is not very conventional, certainly makes you think about the possible nature of an acquisition like this and whether that would make it efficient in its role. If they bought 24 aircraft and used them all in an AWACs capacity, is that a good decision or not? I think that really is a super qualifying question that should be discussed a lot more in detail. Using so many of them in that role with their speed, their anti/missile capabilities with their MAWS and EWCs and towed decoys etc., they can fly alongside the other fighter jets and feed them instantaneous information as well as have the capability to evade missiles shot at it and have a much better survival rate than say the E-2C which wouldn't be able to get so close.

In many ways, they can be used as a medium between examples such as the EA-G18 Growler and the E-2c Hawkeye. The opinion in the article eludes to the fact that not many -- if any -- air forces out there are doing such a thing and that it would certainly be a unique use of this great fighter. I'm certainly warming up to the idea while at the same time, start looking for other alternatives to the E-2C that would help better correlate between the Russian AC and the western ones DESPITE having the new RISC2 network they just put together and it seems to be working really well as suddenly, right after they announced that network was active, we started seeing the MiGs flying with all the other western aircraft in the same formations as well as buddy buddy refueling etc. Something we hadn't seen prior to that. So with that network and then using the standard method of AWACs with the E-2C Hawkeyes to provide all sorts of battleskies information to the network as well as direct aircraft in the air at longer distances (since the Hawkeyes have to stay at safe distances) and then the role of the Typhoons can really be close air support IN THE SKIES for the others attacking aircraft. I think that will grow on a lot of people in short time.
Egyptian Armed forces are crazy, they buy modern toothless weapons by asking Aid from other GCC countries, they have no one to fight to.
Just a couple of questions to clarify your comment:
1) Which modern weapons is the EAF buying that are toothless? Can you point to which specific platforms?
2) Where did you get the information that also is being done by asking Aid from other GCC countries? Can you point to a reputable source that shows the EAF asks for aid from other GCC countries to buy these supposed "toothless" weapons? Let us know the answer to those two questions please because we all seem to know less than you, so you can edumacate us.
 

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