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Why do the Arabs hate the Palestinians so?

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  1. war&peace

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    Zionist with his false propaganda....Does anyone buy his crap? or he just waste his time and energy..
     
  2. EgyptianAmerican

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    Over 200,000 Egyptians died and thousands of other Arabs and countless amounts of equipment and resources ruined for Palestinians and their country, we ruined our economies and went against every nation in the Western World even when it would've been easier to give in. We fought tooth and nail and despite our losses we still fought. We went toe to toe with the U.S during the height of it's power and fought what was essentially a unwinnable war, we took the refugees and the bombings and the disrespect of our Nations for Palestine and some Israeli retard in the Middle of who gives a shit Tel Aviv has the audacity of Accusing us Arabs of hating Palestinians?! Dude screw those trolls.

    Let any other idiot criticize us for our actions but they don't know the true amount of sacrifices we have had to make for that Nation.

    No person on this Earth holds the right to criticize us Arabs and our issues with Palestine because no one else has gone through so much crap to see it become a reality.
     
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  3. Solomon2

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    Oh, please, don't believe me blindly but go and verify the truth yourself!

    ...With the Marshall Plan after the Second World War, America distributed $60 billion (in today's inflation-adjusted dollars) to rebuild all of Western Europe. According to the World Bank, the Palestinians have received more than half that amount, $31 billion, in aid since 1993.
    The money has largely ended up funding terrorism and corruption.

    Instead of scapegoating Israel, perhaps these "goodists", if they really care about helping oppressed people, as they claim, will finally promote a freedom flotilla to liberate Gaza from Hamas's tyranny and Syria from Assad's butchery?


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  4. war&peace

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    Get the hell of Palestine and we will shove that 31 billion up the zonists' arse but you have to pay for all the destruction of life and infrastructure and that far exceeds that amount.
     
  5. Solomon2

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    Try to see it from the author's point of view. Think about the Arabs he talks to - representatives of Arab media and (possibly) governments. What do you think these people tell the author about what Arabs think of Palestinians? That the "Palestinian cause" is forever supported by all Arabs or that the "Palestinians" are hated by their fellow Arabs - and therefore Israel can reach a deal with such-and-such Arab country?
     
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    The Marshall Plan happened AFTER the war and your not accounting for Inflation, what was 60 Billion then is in the 100 billion range today.

    If You stopped blowing infrastructure up and murdering innocent people, than MAYBE NGOs could actually get something done.
     
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  7. Solomon2

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    ...The West is drowning in a sea of double standards and moral relativism: murderers and tyrants are allowed to wallow in their crimes, while global indignation is turned only against the sole democracy in the Middle East: Israel.

    Read!

    Have you worked to make it safe for Muslims in Pakistan to advocate in favor of Israel? No? Then who is the "cocksuka" here?
     
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    The Marshall Plan, adjusted for inflation, spent about $120 billion to rebuild West Germany.



     
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  9. Solomon2

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    Hey, apologies, you're right - sort of. The linked LA Times article was written in 1987. It's $60 billion figure is about $125 billion in today's dollars. So the "Palestinian Arabs" have received about one-fourth the aid all of Western Europe did in the Marshall Plan, not one-half.
     
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    I rather drop dead instead of givin a fk bout your zionazi state...
     
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  11. Indus Pakistan

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    Did you know that Apartheid South Africa was the sole democracy in Africa. And did you know that Nazis took over Germany in what was then a democracy by winning at the polls. Democracy alone cannot be used as a mask to cover everything. USA was a democracy when it had Jim Crow laws.

    Efforts were more successful in West Germany for the same reason it had been far more successful in killing 6 millions Jews, 20 million Russians, millions of others in Europe whereas Iraq had only been successful in falling apart under US attack. Therein lies the answer.
     
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  12. war&peace

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    :crazy::devil: ... how is it even related to my comment. Why do you jump from topic to topic?
     
  13. Saif al-Arab

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    Another week on PDF and another Hasbara "masterpiece" from our resident @Solomon2 propagandist.

    Bro, what those this "even" mean? It was people from modern-day KSA that liberated Al-Quds 1400 years ago and gave unprecedented rights to local Jews (after centuries of Roman oppression) and locals in general (fellow Semites, including a large Arab minority already living in this part of Sham/Levant since time immortal) and it was dynasties originating from modern-day KSA (Rashdiun, Umayyad, Abbasid, Fatimid etc.) and ruled by Arab dynasties from modern-day KSA, that ruled Al-Quds and modern-day Palestine/Israel for almost 1000 years. Later, during Ottoman occupation, local Palestinian Arab dynasties emerged. Some of Hijazi origin as well from modern-day KSA.

    For instance Zahir al-Umar that ruled in the late 1770's.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zahir_al-Umar

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    An ancestor of Gigi Hadid, lol.

    KSA was part of all initial wars against Palestine directly and contributed with more soldiers than anyone else other than neighboring Egypt, Jordan, Iraq and Syria (who all had larger populations than KSA back then).

    KSA was instrumental in the oil embargo in the West that was the most costly sabotage (of economy) by a Muslim country against the West in history.



    Hijazi Hashemites from modern-day Hijaz in KSA, were one of the most vocal anti-Zionists and fought against them and later were betrayed by the Brits. Ibn Saud from Najd in modern-day KSA, was against (heavily) the establishment of Israel and made no secret of it.

    All while KSA was not ruled by pan-Arabists like Egypt, Iraq and Syria were.

    BTW KSA has probably the closest historical, genealogical, ancestral etc. ties with Palestinians together with neighboring Jordanians and Syrians. Northern KSA is basically a part of Levant. Similar dialects, similar clothing, similar cuisine, similar dances (dabke etc.) Not even talking about the ancient ties between Hijaz and neighboring Sham which are even widely described in the Qur'an and even the Bible and Torah. As well as genealogy and ancestry (confirmed ages ago).

    This is obviously exaggerated, but there is some truth to it. Ties between Palestine and KSA and Egypt are very close.



    There are 4 regions that KSA has extremely close ties to. Remaining Arabia (Yemen, Oman and the Eastern independent Arabian states such as Kuwait, Bahrain, UAE and Qatar) and neighboring Jordan (wider Sham by large, including in particular Palestine and Southern and Eastern Syria), Iraq (both extensions of Arabia and vice versa) and neighboring Egypt, in particular for Hijaz (large-scale migration both ways, shared dynasties, shared/very similar dialect, especially urban Hijazi, cuisine, geography, Islamic historic, pre-islamic history) across the Red Sea.

    KSA is a HUGE country. The size of Western Europe. So to speak about KSA as one body is to speak about Russia as one country even though Siberia and Caucasus could not be further apart. Or Kaliningrad and Vladivostok.
     
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    its remind me dont mess with zohan :lol:
     
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    It's because the common idea in the Arab world and outside it
    is that Saudi Arabia never really did anything to the Palestinians except in the era of King Faisal. Which is a misconception since a lot of Saudi volunteers lost their lives defending Palestine in 1948 and afterwards in addition to the regular troops. Something a lot of people simply don't know Thus the "even".


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