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Why China is so tough in this China-India border tension? Vietnam and other countries should know the reason

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Since falling short of proper IQ you cannot comprehend why an Asian NATO will never happen. The legitimacy of QUAD itself is questionable from the start. Japan and India have territorial dispute with China, Australia does not fit in this picture now does it? It only joined because of the pressure from the US. Vietnam and Philippines do meet this requirement but will never be part of this security alliance for a number of reasons. 1. A communist country? Seriously? Absolutely a no go area. 2. Philippines is separated by sea, are you expecting Ph Navy to make any difference in a sea battle against the most powerful Naval force in the region? Even the Japanese Navy is wetting its pants. Also don't expect the Japanese to be that serious about the QUAD thing, we know the Japs were also forced into this by its master. In the case of Taiwan it is more about being invaded rather than territorial issue but still not invited to join, because that would provoke China to an immediate escalation. Even US is not that stupid to go this far. NATO was created out of fear for a land invasion by Russia throughout Europe which is mostly connected by land. Taiwan is the only one who fears for an invasion while the rest of the neighboring countries don't share that fear, hence the QUAD started with only this tiny number of membership and will remain that small or will eventually disintegrate.
That is what people said when NATO was first coined but democratic countries still got on board and as years passed more countries who never had a dispute with the Soviet Union realized its potential and joined. Rest is history Soviet Union became Russia. Likewise, Einsteins like you can say whatever that helps them sleep at night but sooner or later QUAD with a security framework is destined to happen. The more radically PRC behaves the sooner it'll get finalized. :victory1:
 

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Mao said Tibet is the palm while Ladakh, Nepal, Sikkim, Bhutan and Arunachal are its five fingers.

Chinese will not rest until all five fingers are part of China.
 

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Countless skirmishes happened along China-India border since 1962 war. All were settled peacefully by the two countries. China even compromised in the 2017 Dklam standoff incident. In which both sides confirmed that Indian soldiers entered China's territory by crossing undisputed boundary line.

Why China is so tough this time? There are many reasons. China's being fed up with India's endless harassments could be one of reasons. I think the most important reason is. China realized things are different and complicated this time. It's not about China and India tension as it looks like. India is more like cooperating with US on the "Containing China" strategy. China has sensed that India had made worst choice for China: Joining in US “India-Pacific Strategy”. India created the tension on border at the peak time of US attacks on China. It's definitely not a coincidence. After 6.15 clash, India government immediately banned hundreds of Chinese apps and limited Chinese goods import for "national security"(sounds familiar?) reason.

Many people believe that all anti China measures and India-US cooperations are the results of China-India clash. No. They were premeditated by India. What was out of Indians' plan is, unlike other skirmishes, this time China didn't back off and gave India a firm slap.

For China, it's meaningless to make any concession if it's not pure China-India issue. Because India had joinned in an anti-China gang. It won't stop hurting China's interest until the boss of the gang says "stop". On the other hand, China needs to fight back. It's not wise to directly fight with US, the boss of the gang. US is too powerful and China's biggest customer. Hitting the pawns is the best choice for China. We have seen how China punished Canada, Australia and of course India while making deals with US even though we all know US is the one where the problems came from. It's all logical.

Lesson for Vietnam and other countries. Having issues with China is not a big problem. China overall is a soft and tolerant country. But you have got to keep distance from US. Once you become a pawn of US, you will see a tough China.
lol chinese propaganda . :D
China will tough more on Indian border to secure CPEC route. Chinese army getting closer to Indian unit which can target CPEC route. There will be more armed forces movement in that area. More Indian threat and cause disturbance in Baluchistan and GB more Chinese unit will be active.
ok :D
Mao said Tibet is the palm while Ladakh, Nepal, Sikkim, Bhutan and Arunachal are its five fingers.

Chinese will not rest until all five fingers are part of China.
mao to upar gaya .
 

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That is what people said when NATO was first coined but democratic countries still got on board and as years passed more countries who never had a dispute with the Soviet Union realized its potential and joined. Rest is history Soviet Union became Russia. Likewise, Einsteins like you can say whatever that helps them sleep at night but sooner or later QUAD with a security framework is destined to happen. The more radically PRC behaves the sooner it'll get finalized. :victory1:
The more radical PRC behaves? What is radical and what is even more radical behavior? Hasn't China done enough already? We punished many countries already, Norway, South Korea, Vietnam, Philippines, Japan, Australia, India, Canada. Be more specific, what does China have to do to make this Asian NATO a reality? Give us a time frame, 2025? 2030? 2035? 2040? Just after how many years will you admit you were dumb to actually believe it was going to happen?
 

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The more radical PRC behaves? What is radical and what is even more radical behavior? Hasn't China done enough already? We punished many countries already, Norway, South Korea, Vietnam, Philippines, Japan, Australia, India, Canada. Be more specific, what does China have to do to make this Asian NATO a reality? Give us a time frame, 2025? 2030? 2035? 2040? Just after how many years will you admit you were dumb to actually believe it was going to happen?
Already punished? You must be joking! Maybe punished means different in your countrys dictionary. For the timeframe and radical PRC, let me put it this way the sooner you trigger a conflict against major regional economies in Asia the sooner you'll see QUAD in action. China's rise has so far not been peaceful and based on its current trajectory it looks like it'll be the largest economy by 2030-35, so we might get some action around that time.
 

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This incident made by chinese. India tobe harder when facing with China. Nothing more.
Lesson for Vietnam and other countries. Having issues with China is not a big problem. China overall is a soft and tolerant country. But you have got to keep distance from US. Once you become a pawn of US, you will see a tough China.
 

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Already punished? You must be joking! Maybe punished means different in your countrys dictionary. For the timeframe and radical PRC, let me put it this way the sooner you trigger a conflict against major regional economies in Asia the sooner you'll see QUAD in action. China's rise has so far not been peaceful and based on its current trajectory it looks like it'll be the largest economy by 2030-35, so we might get some action around that time.
Russia did nothing and the NATO expanded within no time, so what is the Asian NATO waiting for? Radical moves from China? You still haven't given me examples of what radical moves are. Yeah we punished these countries with economic might and sinking Vietnamese boats. What did Russia do to trigger the fast expansion of NATO? NOTHING, so what is the Asian NATO waiting for?
 

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The word “trapped” should be used for the weak country. China has opened new front line on the east China-India border. India will bleed more
..not seen much bleeding lately. Just the PLA getting drone takeaway pizza while sucking on oxygen from a tube.
Please let the punishing commence so that the world can fear the might of China.
:china:
 

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According to PRC when it comes to territorial disputes what is mine is mine but what is yours is negotiable.

Sadly for PRC that won't work with India. The example being set by India of standing put to your bully and not backing down from a fight would be followed by all the countries which is currently being bullied by China. Ex - Vietnam, Philippines, Japan etc

It's only logical to suggest for all these bullied countries to come together and form a pact and have each other's back when a confrontation takes place. Sooner or later QUAD is going to have a security framework similar to article 5 of NATO and it would eventually expand to include some of these countries.
Not backing down doesn't matter when you're too weak to do anything about it. See 1962.
..not seen much bleeding lately. Just the PLA getting drone takeaway pizza while sucking on oxygen from a tube.
Please let the punishing commence so that the world can fear the might of China.
:china:
When you see Indian 'soldiers' wallowing in their own filth as the PLA enjoys pizza, that is how you know who has won and who hasn't.
 

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