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Why Arabs Lose Wars

Discussion in 'Arab Defence Forum' started by Falcon29, Mar 29, 2014.

  1. +4vsgorillas-Apebane

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    Underlying the veneer of law, civilization and morality is the hard power of military capabilities to back them up. How do you propose the international community to end the occupation?
     
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    Al mahdi is a codeword for nuclear weapon which is what they are waiting for.
     
  3. Falcon29

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    All your posts are garbage, I'm not an America, I'd rather be at my home but the illegal Jewish colony is preventing that. You're the ones that destroyed palestine with your Jewish money in the early 1900's, we are talking about freedom and not destroying Israel. Israel is the oppressor and the Palestinians are the oppressed. You do nothing else than deploying Jewish propaganda that Muslims are out to commit genocide on Jews when in reality it's Israel committing a form of genoicde against the Palestinians. There's no confusion in this conflict, one side is the victim which is struggling for its rights and one side is a nation armed to teeth with military budgets extremely high which is an Jewish extremist expansionist state which seeks to expel all Palestinians from their land as you just admitted by saying 'Arabs should go to Arabia', whatever the hell that means, we are native people and didn't come from 'Arabia' if that even exists.

    You admit you're a imperialist Jewish person who wants all non Jews out of Palestinian land so you can grab their land for your peope and at the same time preaching to us that Palestinians are aggressors, you're committing double evil right here.

    Don't ask me questions I don't run the world, there is an illegal occupation and an international body which has the duty to stand up for occupied people's rights. How they achieve that is not my business, the point is the problem is about a crime against humanity and not a competition or dispute. Only Israel disputes that's it's justified in its land grabbing policies. Because they're supremacist Jewish people.

    Do you have any ideas? What do you see that can't happen? There are many possibilities, like sanctions for example.
     
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    In that particular thread, we recorded the opinion ex pilots of PAF based on personal experience , who serve that war. There comments were not about politics, it was totally about Egyptian Air Force professionalism . Plus, issue with planes in Egyptian inventory.
     
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    again our goals at the start
    1 crosing the suez canal
    2 clear the bar liv line which took 6 years to build we finished it in 6 hours
    3 advance within the cover of our SAMs
    4 wait for the counter attack and defeat it which we did after 2 days of the war
    5 stat negotiations from a postion of power to get back sainai
    we did all of it no one can attack without air cover the attack was a mistake by sadat which have caused the gap but they could not accomplish any thing they tried entering suez and ismalia and failed and like i said before we had time and manpower in our hands they did not this led to what we wanted our land back and peace
     
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    My question was rhetorical. I dont see any way to end the occupation, the chance to end it was lost in 1973. Now all that can be done is industrialize, educate the kids, make money and do business. Chinese style.
    Once you have money and education, strength and national identity will follow and more paths open to you.
     
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    Of course u are. Living in land of genocided people.

    Nonsense. U can go to Gaza easily.

    We created Palestine.

    Palestinians are one of the fastest growing nation in the world. Arabs in Israel have lowest mortality rates in entire Middle East.

    Less imperialist than Americans or Arabs themselves.
     
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    China is an independent nation, Israel's occupation prevents any progress and will prevent industry or national identity. They want to destroy our national identity, they have Jewish organizations overseas which help in that aspect. We can't prosper if we're under massive restrictions from an state military which prevents us from walking on our own streets in our land let alone end their war against us. For any of that to happen, the world needs to hold Israel accountable, this is not about the 73 war which had to do with Arab territories and not Palestinian Territories. Palestinian territory is not occupied because of war, it's occupied because of the Jewish agenda which is to their Israeli they envision all over Palestine.

    So lets not evade the real situation here, the real situation is very clear, now the world needs to stand up against Israel's land grabbing policies. What's so complicated about that to you?

    I wish the American people see you for who you are. Yet, you're still begging them for billions to support your expansionist criminal state.


    I'm not from Gaza, I'm from modern day central Israel and Ashdod, most people in Gaza are refugees who had no choice but to flee for survival from Jewish terrorists ethnically cleansing them. Jewish terrorists made up tens of thousands and almost reached a 100,000.

    Your fascism pollutes the hell out of your mind, it seems the Jewish people refuse to take responsibility for their own actions. No wonder you've been hated by almost everybody in the world for thousands of years, it's because you screwed yourselves up and now because you've managed to control influential sectors in their nations you're getting armed to teeth.

    There's no such thing as Palestine to Jewish extremists like you, again, you make really stupid statements.

    Yet an imperialist. :lol:

    So why do you lie to the world about your peaceful nature cowards, let them know who you really are, and you're criticizing the country which allowed Israel to happen. If it wasn't for America you wouldn't exist ungrateful piece of shit everybody knows America is what created Israel, without them you're nothing. If you have so much against America take your Jewish asses to your own colonialist state and quit beging for American support.
     
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    Stand up to Israel? With them backed up by the sole superpower and the entire western world? You are naive, power comes from the barrel of a gun and has always been so. There is little sympathy and knowledge of the occupation because the media is controlled by Jews right down to Hollywood. The Jewish lobby holds considerable sway in the USA which is why they back Israel with absurd rigidity.

    Like I said before, the only way foward is to educate the kids, make money (including overseas) and wait for new paths to open up. It is a slow and arduous path, but proven.
     
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    My friend, I think you're smart enough to figure out that this not true at all. The word 'Arab' doesn't necessarily mean ethnically Arab. People who are in the Arab world are either Arabs by ethnicity or language. However, people have intermingled throughout history which made any and every spot on earth a mixture of different ethnicities. There is no place on earth that it's people are ethnically pure. But, there is sth called a majority, and the majority of every Arab country are the original people of that place, be they Egyptians, Assyrians, Nabateens, Berbers...etc. Anyway, you can't come here to question people for letting others in or for intermingling with them.
     
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    Needs to be respected by all parties.
    Egypt and Israel accepted Resolution 242 in 1968. Syria in 1972.
    PLO accepted Resolution 242 only in 1993.
    Has Hamas accepted it yet? Doubt it.

    United Nations Security Council Resolution 242 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Who's the culprit then.
     
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    Haha hazzy losing his shit as usual, literally badmouthing some one.

    Jesus this is just pathetic.

    Link please
     
  13. Falcon29

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    I'm not naive, I know this better than you. When the Muslim raises his gun he's accused of terrorism and when the West dictates the worlds affairs through force they're 'supporting freedom'. There is no path, by then all Palestinians would be expelled from their lands and Israel would become more powerful than China itself. You guys want to just sit around and watch this nation grow more and more powerful and colonize more land have fun in the future when they're coming your way.

    Yet again, however, the international world either needs to stand up for the rights of an oppressed people's or go out in front of the world and admit they're Jewish terrorists who don't care for justice and only for their interests and benefits.
     
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    He is talking about the Yom Kippur war, but confusing Sinai with Israel.
    Change "Israel" to "Israel occupied terroitories in Sinai" and it is pretty clear.
     
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    In contrast to u I dont say that Americans should hand lands to Indians and return to Europe. :p:

    Israel receives only military aid, supporting American industries.

    Ashdod is just half hour driving from Gaza. Whats a big deal? U will be in Palestine. And besides Ashdod Arabs are all Egyptian origin who came there in 19th century.

    Palestine is Jewish invention. Arabs nationalists in first jalf of 20-es century refused to call it a Palestine but Syria al Janubiya.

    Palestinians were created by our actions. Now there is.

    We all are imperialists.