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Who is Moshiach? Know thy enemy

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  1. Taimoor Khan

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    https://www.jpost.com/Magazine/Opinion/In-Plain-Language-Who-wants-Moshiach

    He is mentioned hundreds of thousands of times each day, all over the world, yet no one actually knows his name or very much about him. What he looks like, when he will arrive or where he will come from is a mystery, debated and deliberated for centuries. He is not referred to directly in any of the scriptural books – at least not by Jewish reckoning – and the oblique allusions to him in the prophecies of Balaam, Isaiah and Daniel, among others, are exceedingly difficult to decipher. Yet despite his ephemeral and elusive character, he remains one of Judaism’s most powerful personalities: the Moshiach.

    The most authoritative source we have concerning the Moshiach comes from Maimonides, the great rabbinic codifier born in 1135 in Cordoba, Spain. In his commentary on the 10th chapter of the talmudic tractate Sanhedrin, he lists his 13 fundamental principles of Jewish faith. The 12th of those principles states as follows: “I believe, with a perfect faith, in the coming of the Messiah. And although he may delay, I will nevertheless wait for him, with each day that comes.”The concept of a heroic savior, a liberator, a Moshiach – like the other fundamentals of belief, in God, Moses, the prophets and the Torah – was meant to be a unifying force in Jewish life, something we could all agree upon, aspire to and pray for. Yet tragically, this, too, has become a major bone of contention, engendering countless arguments and antagonism among various segments of our people. The rhetoric and rancor is particularly intense as it relates to the State of Israel.

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    Who is Moshiach?

    Halachic Identification



    Maimonides, in his Laws of Kings1 describes the defining features of Moshiach:


    "If a king arises from the House of David who meditates on the Torah and occupies himself with the commandments like his ancestor David, in accordance with the written and oral Torah, and he will prevail all of Israel to walk in [the ways of the Torah] and strengthen its breaches (in the observance of the Torah), and he will fight the battles of G-d - it may be assumed that he is Moshiach.


    "If he did [these things] successfully, built the Sanctuary on its site and gathered the dispersed of Israel - he is definitely Moshiach! He will [then] correct the entire world to serve G-d in unity, as it is said, "For then I will turn to the peoples a pure tongue that all shall call upon the Name of G-d and serve Him with one consent.""


    Had the Jewish people only paid more attention to these laws, we could have spared ourselves much of the crushing disappointment generated by false messiahs throughout the ages. For these impostors built their cases on misconstrued midrashim, signs etc., but none passed Maimonides Halachic test. Even when Moshiach comes, only his Halachic suitability will confirm his identity.


    As a faithful shepherd he already cares so much about his people that he volunteered to suffer all kinds of agonies to assure that not a single Jew of all times will be lostScriptual Description



    Here are what the scriptures say about Moshiach:


    "The spirit of G-d will rest upon him, a spirit of wisdom and understanding, a spirit of counsel and might, a spirit of knowledge and of the fear of G-d. He shall be inspired with fear of G-d, and he shall not judge with the sight of his eyes nor decide according to the hearing of his ears.


    "He shall judge the poor with righteousness and decide with equity for the humble of the earth; he shall smite the earth with the rod of his mouth and slay the wicked with the breath of his lips. Righteousness shall be the girdle of his loins, and faith the girdle of his reins."2


    "Behold, My servant shall be wise, he shall be exalted and lofty, and shall be very high."3


    "Through his knowledge My servant shall justify the righteous to the many.." 4


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    His wisdom shall exceed even that of King Solomon; he shall be greater than the patriarchs, greater than all the prophets after Moses, and in many respects even more exalted than Moses.


    His stature and honor shall exceed that of all kings before him. He will be an extraordinary prophet, second only to Moses, with all the spiritual and mental qualities that are prerequisites to be endowed with the gift of prophecy.


    As a faithful shepherd he already cares so much about his people that he volunteered to suffer all kinds of agonies to assure that not a single Jew of all times will be lost.


    Moshiach shall meditate on the Torah and be preoccupied with mitzvahs. He shall teach all the Jewish people and instruct them in the way of G-d. He will prevail upon Israel to follow and observe the Torah, repair its breaches, and fight the battles of G-d.5


    Moshiach will reveal altogether new insights, making manifest the hidden mysteries of the Torah, to the point that "all the Torah learned in the present world will be vain compared to the Torah of Moshiach". Though Moshiach comes first and foremost to Israel, all the nations will recognize his wisdom and sublimity and submit to his rule. He will guide and instruct them as well.


    There is no need for Moshiach to perform signs and wonders to prove himself. Nonetheless, he will do so.



    Belief in the eventual coming of the mashiach is a basic and fundamental part of traditional Judaism. It is part of Rambam’s 13 Principles of Faith, the minimum requirements of Jewish belief. In the Shemoneh Esrei prayer, recited three times daily, we pray for all of the elements of the coming of the mashiach: ingathering of the exiles; restoration of the religious courts of justice; an end of wickedness, sin and heresy; reward to the righteous; rebuilding of Jerusalem; restoration of the line of King David; and restoration of Temple service.

    Modern scholars suggest that the messianic concept was introduced later in the history of Judaism, during the age of the prophets. They note that the messianic concept is not explicitly mentioned anywhere in the Torah (the first five books of the Bible).

    However, traditional Judaism maintains that the messianic idea has always been a part of Judaism. The mashiach is not mentioned explicitly in the Torah, because the Torah was written in terms that all people could understand, and the abstract concept of a distant, spiritual, future reward was beyond the comprehension of some people. However, the Torah contains several references to “the End of Days” (acharit ha-yamim), which is the time of the mashiach; thus, the concept of mashiach was known in the most ancient times.





    Rabbi saying the Mashiach will be revealed in part of the world called "Persian Gulf". So what is happening right now?

    There are many who reject Hadees. If you belong to that category, you can ignore and move on.

    The Dajjal would be followed by seventy thousand Jews of Isfahan wearing Persian shawls. (Muslim 7034)


    https://www.chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid/1121893/jewish/Who-Is-Moshiach-the-Jewish-Messiah.htm


    Who Is Moshiach (the Jewish Messiah)?

    The Messianic Redemption will be ushered in by a person, a human leader, a descendant of Kings David and Solomon, who will reinstate the Davidic royal dynasty. According to tradition, Moshiach will be wiser than Solomon, and a prophet around the level of Moses.

    Ever since the destruction of the Holy Temple, in every generation there is an individual, a scion of the House of David, who has the potential to be the Moshiach. If at any moment the Jews are worthy of redemption, this person would be directed from Above to assume the role of the redeemer.

    In every generation there is a scion of the House of David who has the potential to be the MoshiachDuring the Messianic Era, the Moshiach will serve a dual role. He will be a monarch, ruling over all of humanity with kindness and justice, and upholding the law of the Torah—613 commandments for the Jews, and seven for the non-Jews. He will also be the ultimate teacher, the conduit for the deepest and most profound dimensions of the Torah which will then be revealed by G‑d.

    How are we to identify the Moshiach?

    Moshiach is not identified by his ability to perform earth-shattering miracles. In fact, he isn't required to perform any miracles at all (although the performance of miracles doesn't disqualify him either).

    The following are the criteria for identifying the Moshiach, as written by Maimonides:

    If we see a Jewish leader who (a) toils in the study of Torah and is meticulous about the observance of the mitzvot, (b) influences the Jews to follow the ways of the Torah and (c) wages the "battles of G‑d"—such a person is the "presumptive Moshiach."

    If the person succeeded in all these endeavors, and then rebuilds the Holy Temple in Jerusalem and facilitates the ingathering of the Jews to the Land of Israel—then we are certain that he is the Moshiach.


    (Should be now crystal clear what their intentions are with regards to Al Aqsa Mosque)




    Rare deciption of Jewish Moshiach (Notice the third eye on his forehead)


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    THE QUESTION....

    Now here is the reason to open this thread to ask all those who deny Mahdi , Hadees, ask questions as to where in Quran Mahdi is mentioned, You can deny all you want, maybe you got reasons in your own intellectual capacity and understanding, but I ask you lot, the opposite side firmly believe in their awaited one at the highest level of their seat of power. Their PMs and their presidents, the mover and shakers of their nations. Ignore the angry Mullah and some right wing media persons , mock them all you want but can you ignore the danger staring at you from the enemy nations whose leadership is hell bend on bringing their awaited one? These leaders know the secrets of this world, through satanic rituals (e.g Kabbalah), they are not your average Joe. Does the simple logic and common sense not dictate that Allah will create good for every evil?






    Jewish Moshiach is not metioned in Torah, and it was only in 1135, according to them the most authentic sources about him are mentioned. YET, we got idiots among us asking about Mahdi in Quran and reject 1400 old Hadees about him!!
     
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    For the moshiach to come, the temple must be rebuilt.
     
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    Doesn't seems so, He is the one who will create it. The main thing is, are they looking to destroy Al Aqsa before his arrival or he is the one who will do this satanic act himself.
     
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    I thought a rebuilt temple was an essential pre-requiste for him to come.
     
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    Is this a defence forum
    Or a conspiracy forum

    Maybe webmaster should change the name to conspiracy.pk
     
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    It's a forum. You can discuss anything here, nothing wrong with it.
     
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    I am more interested in how this Moshiach will deal with the Pagan Hindu's ? Indians say Jews Hindu bhai bhai :D and Orthodox Jews are strictly monotheist , and Yahwe is their one and Only God, rest are just subhumans to them Gentiles so how would this so called love and bhai bhai relationship will go once the Massiah shows up ?
     
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    I think it is Lucifer incarnate
     
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    No , Dajjal or Anti-Christ wont be Satan incarnate , he is and will be independent being his role is very different from Satan .
     
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    I know. It is a soul-less body
     
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    you mean literally or figuratively ?
     
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    From Chabad website:

    If we see a Jewish leader who (a) toils in the study of Torah and is meticulous about the observance of the mitzvot, (b) influences the Jews to follow the ways of the Torah and (c) wages the "battles of G‑d"—such a person is the "presumptive Moshiach."

    If the person succeeded in all these endeavors, and then rebuilds the Holy Temple in Jerusalem and facilitates the ingathering of the Jews to the Land of Israel—then we are certain that he is the Moshiach.



    He has to build temple it seems. But would they try to pursue their dirty agenda against Al Aqsa before his arrival or after, that is open to debate.
     
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    according to sources
     
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    Dajjal will live and die meaning he will have soul which would be taken, hence he can't be soul-less .
     
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    animals have no souls.. they also die and live .