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Who are the terrorists that Islamic militants want freed?

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  1. Perceptron

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    Who are the terrorists that Islamic militants want freed ?
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    (l-r) Aafia Siddiqui and Sheik Omar Abdel Rahman / GETTY IMAGES

    In the latest development surrounding the bloody three-day hostage standoff at a natural gas plant in the Sahara, Algeria's state news service reported that nearly 100 of the 132 foreign workers kidnapped by Islamic militants had been freed. On Friday the militants offered to trade two American hostages for two prominent terror figures jailed in the United States: Omar Abdel Rahman and Aafia Siddiqui.

    Abdel Rahman, a blind sheik, is considered the spiritual leader of men convicted in the 1993 World Trade Center bombing. He is serving a life sentence for conspiracies to blow up New York City landmarks, including the United Nations, and assassinate then-Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak.

    In September 2003, he was transferred from the federal Supermax prison in Colorado, where the country's most notorious inmates are held, to the U.S. Medical Center for Prisons in Springfield, Mo. Prisons officials said then that Abdel Rahman has suffered from diabetes, which threatened the loss of his limbs.

    In a video in September marking the fifth anniversary of the Sept. 11 attacks, al Qaeda's No. 2 man, Ayman al-Zawahri, cited the continuing imprisonment of the sheik. "I call on every Muslim to make use of every opportunity afforded him to take revenge on America for its imprisonment of Sheik Omar Abdel-Rahman," he said.

    Most recently Egyptian president Mohammed Morsi had vowed to free the blind sheik in his first public speech in June 2012.

    Siddiqui, a Pakistani scientist, was convicted in February 2010 of trying to kill U.S. agents and military officers after she was detained by police in Afghanistan in 2008, and was later sentenced to 86 years in prison. She trained at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology and Brandeis University in the early 1990s. Authorities claim she returned to her native Pakistan in 2003 after marrying an al Qaeda operative related to Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, the admitted mastermind of the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks.

    During Siddiqui's trial, FBI agents and U.S. soldiers testified that when they went to interrogate Siddiqui, she snatched an unattended assault rifle and shot at them while yelling, "Death to Americans!" She was wounded by return fire but recovered and was brought to the United States to face trial.

    Though she was not convicted of terrorism, the government has argued that Siddiqui is a cold-blooded radical who deserves a "terrorism enhancement" under federal sentencing guidelines that would guarantee a life term.

    Her conviction sparked protests in Pakistan. In September 2010, about 400 activists of the Islamist group Jamaat-e-Islami and its allied youth group, Pasban, gathered outside the Karachi Press Club carrying pictures of Siddiqui and chanting slogans against the U.S. government and justice system.
     
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    u highlighted the part were it states that "she was not convicted of terrorism" than again u altered the title of the thread..
     
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    Read her indictment statement. The Justice Department convicted her on a 86 year prison term on the grounds that she needed a "terrorist enhancement" (in other words, waterboarding to wash away the terrorism inducing mindset) which guaranteed a life term.
     
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    There is a strong need to bring French colonialism back to Algeria as it is fast becoming a breeding ground of extremists!
     
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    Wow, the Webmaster just handed me an infraction stating that i was "Trolling", and yet there seems to be a blind-eye on the on other posts/threads which goes several notches higher.
     
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    Waterboarding is unethical and an inhuman act.

    Prosecuting a terrorist would be one thing, torturing is another.
    And how does the grand-daddy of human rights allow this to continue and expect people to stay calm?

    Tyrant is how the US described Saddam. What describes this act?
     
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    I honestly hope you're just trying to be funny by saying that, otherwise you really don't know what you are talking about.
    Algeria is a socialist country they have been trying their best to curb extremism since tbhe early 2000s,the recent seige in the sahara was done by forigners,mainly libyans.
     
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    What is wrong with better Maghreb countries these days ??

    Read about Armed Islamic Group of Algeria (al-Jama'ah al-Islamiyah al-Musallaha) and Bentalha and Rias Massacre amongst many others .

    That being said solution is not colonialism but complete eradication , extermination and decimation of these Jehadis .
     
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    Terrorists are NOT human, so "human rights" per se do not apply to them.
    Also, terrorists captured should not enjoy Habeas Corpus. Period.
     
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    Still doesn't justify these acts against someone who is not even a terrorist.
    The terrorists have lost their human aspect, and so has the American administration.
     
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    It is JUSTIFIED. You dont treat terrorists with human/animal values. Period. I am all for torturing those basterds.
     
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    Then be happy in creating more hatred-filled terrorists.
    As if having no means to educate them wasn't bad enough.
     
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    But again when the hate comes from a Stone age book written 1300 years ago, wouldn't it be prudent to revise the narrative of that book ? The biggest screen for the Terrorists to hide behind apart from the Burkha is the hate-filled narrative in that book.
     
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    Have you read the Book? How do you know that the terrorists have the correct interpretations?

    It is not the Book that is stone-aged, it is the mentality of those who misuse its text and those who misunderstand it.

    And if books are to blame, what text did the Shiv Sena read? What sort of education was behind the Dark Ages?