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When will Pakistan Step up its game on Syrian Aid?

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  1. AZADPAKISTAN2009

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    https://www.wrmea.org/jordan/lebanon/syria/unwanted-guests-syrian-refugees-in-turkey.html


    HOW MUCH IS reality and how much my expectations is difficult to say, but the atmosphere in Izmir following the failed July 2016 coup attempt against President Recep Tayyip Erdogan felt palpably different. And there are some distinctly discernible differences. Where last year the only portrait adorning the streets and shops of Izmir was that of Kemal Ataturk, the founder of modern Turkey, that has now been largely replaced by Erdogan’s visage. And although I witnessed several demonstrations when I was in Izmir for two months in the spring of 2016, in three months this summer I saw and heard of no protests in Izmir. All refugee-oriented NGOs such as the United Nations High Commission for Refugees (UNHCR), Mercy Corps and Médecins Sans Frontières have been forced to shut their offices, and a number of web services, including Wikipedia and Paypal, have been banned. Moreover, many more women were covered than had been less than a year earlier, not just in the poorer districts, but even in affluent, touristy Alsancak on Izmir’s seaside.

    Just as the situation is changing for the Turkish people, so it is changing for the refugee population, and with far more immediate and serious consequences. Due to these changes, and the potential danger for those involved in refugee assistance in Izmir, I do not name any volunteer organizations.

    Syrian refugees in Turkey are not legally considered refugees, but rather “guests.” One of the ramifications of this status, according to the Syrians I interviewed, is that Syrians cannot access any services deemed specific to refugees, like registering with UNHCR for relocation. While Afghans, Iraqis and other national groups can still avail themselves of UNHCR services through websites, allowing them to register for refugee programs, Syrians are issued a form of identification called a Kimlik. This card must be carried at all times and is required for virtually everything, including renting an apartment, visits to the doctor or hospital, travel, or opening a bank account. Moreover, reissuance of Kimlik cards is restricted. A lost card can only be replaced with multiple proofs of having had one already, and the process takes months. Babies born to families holding Kimlik cards are granted their own cards, but recently arrived Syrian refugees have no such guarantee, and are often turned down.

    Moreover, even refugees with the card face restrictions. Syrians can only open bank accounts at one specific bank and cannot access more than a certain amount of their own money monthly. Among refugees I spoke to, none had opted to open an account, preferring to deal in cash and pay fees associated with money transfer businesses like Western Union.

    Travel is also restricted, with limits on time and distance, even for those holding a Kimlik card. Many Syrian refugees I spoke to needed to renew their passports, problematic in and of itself, as it requires a trip to the Syrian Embassy in Ankara or the consulate in Istanbul, where the wait is usually longer than the travel time allowance. Some go back and forth, which is expensive and often self-defeating; others take their chances with overstaying their allotted time.

    Of course, renewing a Syrian passport is often dangerous for a refugee, anyway. Men who have not completed their mandatory military service, or any refugee who may be on a wanted list, or even have a relative or friend on a wanted list, could be either turned down, at best, or arrested in the embassy at worst. An alternate Syrian government, the National Coalition for Syrian Revolutionary and Opposition Forces, does offer passports. Although the alternate government was created as part of a multinational agreement, and is recognized by a number of nations, including the United States, none of the refugees I spoke to who tried to obtain the alternate passport were successful.

    Since Syrians are considered guests rather than refugees, there are too few official camps. Many refugees rent apartments, mostly in Izmir’s poorer districts, and some squat in crumbling buildings. Nonetheless, there are unofficial camps that have sprung up on farms which allow refugees to pitch a tent in return for what amounts to indentured servitude as farm labor. There are no toilet—or other—facilities, the camps often have to move, and volunteers are not allowed to enter, a restriction enforced (sometimes ineffectively) by both permanent and floating checkpoints on roads leading to the camps. Additionally, the labor-based camps deprive itinerant Turkish laborers of work, causing resentment.

    For Syrian refugees who don’t live and work in the camps, there exist some possibilities of work for those with either education or money. I met a number who worked in translation in fields ranging from refugee-related work to game translation. Many with some capital to invest have opened small shops or stalls. Ths ability to work, albeit not entirely legally, has been one of the greatest advantages for Syrian “guests” in Turkey.

    Most refugee-oriented volunteer organizations working in Izmir comprise primarily refugees and Turks. Other volunteers are severely limited in what they can do. While this was somewhat true in 2016, it’s even more the case this year. A year ago, when I wanted to teach English with an Izmir-based volunteer group, I was told they only wanted refugee or Turkish teachers; this year I was told that every attempt to teach English drew police to the center.

    Education is available to Syrian children in Turkish schools; any Syrian child with a Kimlik card may enroll. All lessons are taught in Turkish, and Syrian children are mainstreamed into the regular classes.

    Alternatively, some parents opt to send their children to study with an imam, but these classes are restricted to religious education. Although all Syrian refugee children theoretically should be attending school, many do not. As families struggle to save enough to move on to Europe or merely to survive and build a life in Turkey, too many children are kept from school in favor of the work force. In various interviews with refugees, I was told of children as young as 10 being sent to work 10-hour days in butcher shops and factories, and saw many, many children as young as 5 or 6 years old out selling tissues on the streets at all hours. It is both horrifying and heartbreaking to encounter a small child alone at 2 o’clock in the morning, selling packs of tissues for the equivalent of 30 cents.

    Even as the situation for Syrian “guest” refugees of the Turkish government is bleak, that of Afghans, Iraqis and others considered refugees must be even more so, and I did hear stories of Afghans, caught in boats attempting to reach Greece, being deported back to Afghanistan in contravention of international law. However, as those considered “refugees” rather than “guests” are not allowed to stay in the larger cities, including Izmir and Istanbul, I was not able to speak to refugees who were not Syrian.

    Even though Turkey’s designation as a “Safe Third Country” is at the heart of the EU/Turkey agreement to restrict the number of refugees flooding into Europe, the “safety” it supposedly provides seems more and more compromised.


    https://en.dailypakistan.com.pk/pak...ration-in-solidarity-with-syria-in-islamabad/
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    Amid rising death toll in Syria, a large number of university students staged a demonstration in the capital city to raise voice against atrocities on Syrian people.

    Besides students from different universities of Islamabad, people from all walks of life also participated in the rally, which called for the cessation of hostilities in Syria

    Students demanded Pakistani government and Muslim leaders to do as much as possible for bringing peace in the war-stricken country.

    The students chanted the slogans of ‘Save Syria’ and ‘Pakistan Stands with the Syrians’. The speakers invited the attention of public towards Syria by giving a briefing on the death toll, injuries and displacement of people both internally and externally in Syria. They demanded Pakistan government to use its diplomatic channels and play a vital role in extinguishing the flames. It is obligatory on Pakistan to act and raise its voice against the human rights’ violations in Syria.

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    ‘The Government has done nothing and Syria remains largely ignored in our power corridors’, said one of the speakers. Another speaker added that as the powerful Islamic Republic with immense diplomatic resources, Pakistan must speak out loud against the violence but it seems nobody feels the pain or hears the cries of Syria. ‘An estimated 500,000 people have lost their lives in the past seven years but the Muslim world has taken little notice’, a student addressed the public.

    The outrage at inaction is justified as Pakistani government has played no role in doing anything for Syria. The only Muslim Nuclear power with the sixth largest army in the world has long feared sectarian backlash and hence been repeating its ‘Neutrality’ mantra. We cannot sit back and be ‘Neutral’. Our Foreign Policy doesn’t demand to be neutral either. Neutrality loses all its meaning when hundreds of thousands of lives are lost. That does not mean Pakistan should make military intervention in Syria on behalf of any of the belligerents but Pakistan should at least put some efforts in alleviating the sufferings of the Syrian people.

    Pakistan has been consistently abstaining from voting against Syrian Human Rights violation, be it New York or Geneva, fearing a sectarian backlash. However, Syrian Civil War is not sectarian in nature. Quite contrary to the ostensible picture, Syrian War is the proxy war between Iran and Saudi Arabia and it’s the war of control. This war is deeply rooted in Iran and Saudi Arabia’s regional hegemony ambitions that are driven by nationalism and not sectarianism. Of course, along with it, Syria faces the threat of ISIS as well which different powers have been aligning with, to gain more control in power, unfortunately. Kurdish militias have led to Turkish intervention and now Syria is a total mess, a war that is so complex to understand.

    In the 1980s, It was Pakistan along with Syria that played a key arbitrating role between Saudi backed coalition lead by Saddam Hussein and Tehran. In the 1990s, it was Pakistan, along with Turkey and Iran that went on to aid Bosnia against the odds and Pakistani military played a tremendous peace-keeping role in Bosnia. Pakistan has been keeping the Kashmir cause alive by regularly calling for the end of atrocities committed by Indian troops on the people of Kashmir but it looks like Pakistan is keen to throw its tremendous history of rising against human rights violations into the trash by adopting a criminal silence on Syria.

    The students demanded all the Muslim countries to force cease-fire in Syria. They also criticized UN for not being serious about making peace. The superpowers are playing with the lives of Syrian Muslims for their own political ambitions and all the Muslims across the globe should unite and force their government to pressurize Saudi Arabia and Iran to cease fire and exit from Syria. This will help in implementing UN resolutions on Syria with efficacy.

    The students also requested Pakistani Media to play its role in raising voice for the Syrian Muslims. ‘We must shape Public Opinion on Syria; our people must know what terrible time Syria is going through! Unfortunately, we have not been able to do it’, contended a student. The only source of getting news regarding Syria is the Social Media as Pakistan’s print and electronic media give little space to Syria in its bulletins. Journalists should come forward and take the initiative to put pressure on Government for using its diplomatic channels.

    The demonstration ended with prayers for the protection of Syrian Muslims against all those forces that are harming them in any way. The protesters also recited Al-Fatiha for all those who have lost their lives in this bloody war. The silence must break. The war has ripped Syria apart and it will keep on adding insult to injury unless Muslim countries take action.

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    Why did it took 7 years to rescue stranded Pakistani in Syria?
    https://en.dailypakistan.com.pk/pakistan/pakistani-couple-besieged-in-syria-rescued-after-7-years/
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    An elderly Pakistani couple besieged in Syria has safely been evacuated through the Wafidin Corridor by the Syrian Red Crescent and is on their way to Pakistan.

    The couple, 72-year-old Muhammad Fazal Akram and 62-year-old Sughran Bibi, was among the 400,000 civilians, caught in the siege put in place by Bashar al-Assad regime and were trapped in war-ravaged Syria for over seven years.

    Pakistan’s diplomatic machinery sprung into action in December through the staff deployed in Damascus which contacted the couple besieged in Eastern Ghouta, after their plight was highlighted by leading daily Pakistan Today.



    If we claim our logistical tactical ability and transportation is top notch the dormant behavior on Syria and to know it took us 7 years to transport stranded Pakistani in Syria leaves alot of questions to be asked
     
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    Right after the Islamic countries around Syria step up.
     
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    Well we jumped into Operation into Afghanistan to save some random Kidnapped tourist but we can't send proper Humanitarian Aid Mission into Syria nor we can rescue existing Pakistani stuck in Syria for 7 years

    It took a news article in National News paper to force a Diplomatic rescue

    Also why is our military doing missions in Africa when there is need for similar Humanitarian mission in Syria

    As a Pakistani my request is to Pakistan Military is to start forming a Independent foreign policy and have a strong Humanitarian policy when it comes to Muslims suffering across globe
    May it be in Syria or Palestine

    To claim we will not send aid or act , unless someone else acts first is ridiculous
    Since when in Islam , humanitarian work has required you to look at others we as Nation should be acting out of our free will

    What is the point of having logistical capacity if we can't mobilize a Humanitarian mission?

    Syria / Palestine is closer than Africa


    It would not be impossible to discuss a general Humanitarian Aid with Turkey / Egypt in mix
    to help Syrian people

    Talk to Erdogan if you can't make tough choices:big_boss:
    Since Turkey shares border with Syria it is not even difficult



    We need to send in Ground Forces to Help with Humanitarian Mission
    We have done similar mission under UN banner but it is time Pakistan acted to send it's own Humanitarian aid into region with Turkey /Egypt in close cooperation

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    If any Muslim recites "the Shahada" his defense and aid is mandatory and they have full Rights for protection and aid for survival

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  5. AZADPAKISTAN2009

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    I am 100% for helping local communities also in Pakistan but we have foundations and
    organization who can help locally. And a lot of Pakistani do help with local charity which is a wonderful thing. In Pakistan local foundations or Rich businessmen can easily donate and help the poor

    But Syria does not have that structure as it is destroyed so it requires a Government to Government Level intervention. We need Military contingent working together with Turkey or Egypt in region to help bring stability on ground and help with Humanitarian aid.


    To simply remain silent and look around for other people's response is not ideal


    However if we are afraid of global powers that is different story but our faith demands we help Syrian and Palestinians to full capacity


    Only thru a small deployment of Military Mission to Syria , working with Local Authorities or with Turkey we can ensure proper aid is provided in such a difficult time for Syria


    Not long ago , it was Joint mission by Syria/Pakistan which helped end the Iraq/Iran war thru diplomatic channels . So a country who in past helped end war should not be left alone in their difficult time
     
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    So you expect foundations and charities to help the 10% stunted childen and 40% hungry Pakistani's but at same time want the government of Pakistan to launch aid missions to help far away Syrians? What sort of perverse logic is this.

    Pakistan government has a moral and legal duty to look after it starving children before it even sends one rupee abroad. You are clearly well fed but if you were a parent of starving child in Pakistan you would be crying for help. The fact is the poorest in Pakistan are far worse then any motherfuker Syrian. I have seen Syrians refugees in UK and BBC reports. Whereas our poor in Sindsh are living in stone age these Syrians walk around supporting Man United shirts and Toni & Guy haircuts ......
     
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    I am 100% committed to Syrian / Palestinians Humanitarian cause they deserve humanitarian aid and also Military delegation to oversee security situation regionally from Pakistan

    With a Million Soldier force , we can't spare 40,000 Troops to help with Humanitarian mission to Syria, what is it we need 1 or 2 C130 and may be 30 APC for humanitarian mission. May be 4-5 Helicopters (Transport)


    However I am 100% for Pakistani Ground Troops to be on Syrian Soil with Turkey/ Egypt to help with rebuild process. May it be distribution of food or , help construction teams clean up old destroyed areas and rebuilding process

    For our local issues we have Provincial budgets, and we have federal budget

    To give out an excuse oh , we can't help another country because we have our own issues locally , is quite cold


    Diplomatic channels need to be pushed to achieve certain goals for Logistical help


    To remain quiet will be Anti Human behavior, it is up to our nation to arrange for formal aid and reconstruction help so people can help from official channel

    Have Heart and Allah will reward your nation with more blessing 8-)
     
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    God why can't those gulf bas trd help instead they seem to have infinite money supply for big project with USA/Europe but pittance is given to charity.
     
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    I am 100% for our resources including armed forces sent to Thar Parker to help feed our, yes our hungry, stunted, starving children.

    And much as you would love to polish Arab wood they would not allow a Pakistani Army soldier within 100 miles of that country. Rest assured of that. I have no idea what delusional world you live in. And who is they? Russians, americans, French, Egyptians etc
     
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    Charity starts at home
     
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    The minimum requirement for doing good is verbally being on the right side


    That's not how Muslims work we help where Muslims need help even if we have less we give our help. Pakistan has always Operated with certain , high standards for humanitarian assistance and Leadership , it is time we started to help people in Syria by formal means


    And it is really up to Government / Military to take necessary steps to showcase the important role for Humanitarian effort Pakistan has always displayed for last 70-80 years
     
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    We we have nuclear power , and water and coal to help resolve poverty in Pakistan

    But humanitarian aid is for people who are in crisis beyond their control , humanitarian mission 40,000 Troops helps fast track reconstruction work
     
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    Yara our own fuc king soldiers are sacrificed for war on terror. no one came to help us no one came to prop pak economy after losing billions, isn't it the gulf Arab leaders supporting crooks in pak like zardaris/nawa sharif and give them safe heaven when they need to run off.

    Inshallah that Islamic prophecy comes true when the war starts, crooked pak leaders will run off to the west with their bags packed only to receive the most cruelest punishment.
     
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    Nuclear power is not going to feed the 10% stunted children we inside Pakistan. We have been nuclear power for 20 years yet that has not fed our poor. Our poor will remain poor and starving as long as cnuts like you think about Arabs, Syrians, Rohingya and every other motherfuker across the world but ignore the screaming hungry child in your backyard.

    That is why we have poverty in Pakistan in the first place. We ignore what is at our door but cry what is half way across the world.
     
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